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Old 14 July 2015, 06:24 AM   #31
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Even with the new advancements in the 3255 movement, Rolex is not on par with Patek. Just put that thought out of your head
Patek's finishing, completely hand made details and lifetime guarantee leave it on a different level. However if the claimed accuracy of the new movement is true then good for Rolex
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Old 14 July 2015, 09:20 AM   #32
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I'm not sure how much accuracy matters to me once you get inside ± 7 seconds or so. I do agree that an elite movement is required when you're paying $5K+ for a watch, but I'm not affected by those extra couple of seconds.

The movement is more of a pass/fail bar that must be cleared before I'll consider the watch. After that, its looks, durability, and heritage that affect my willingness to pay more. Of course the movement matters more in the ultra luxury watches where you have to pay a big premium for a small increase in precision.

I'm also a little skeptical of the new Omega and Rolex movements. Are these improvements necessary? Will they prove as reliable as their predecessors? How much more difficult will they be to service? How much more expensive?
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Old 14 July 2015, 11:05 AM   #33
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Game changer...no.

Very slight improvements made to sound significant by Rolex marketing...probably.

Most quality movements can be regulated to be +/- a couple seconds a day. My DSSD has been -.5 seconds a day going on 7 years now. Is the watch going to be any more accurate or reliable with the 3255? Probably not but if they start putting this movement in the entire Rolex line I don't see a downside.

I dont see Rolex ever moving into the space of Patek, AP, Vacheron, ALS, etc when it comes to fine watch making and movements. They would have to spend MUCH more time in the finishing and complication department. This would significantly drive up cost and I don't think Rolex wants to play in that market. $20k for a SS sub or $40k for a SS Daytona with an open case back and movement finishing? I don't see it. A Rolex grande comp with split second chrono, perpetual calendar, minute repeater and maybe a tourbillion for $1m....not seeing it.
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Old 14 July 2015, 11:12 AM   #34
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Even with the new advancements in the 3255 movement, Rolex is not on par with Patek. Just put that thought out of your head
Patek's finishing, completely hand made details and lifetime guarantee leave it on a different level. However if the claimed accuracy of the new movement is true then good for Rolex
What is this "lifetime guarantee?" Patek's have a two year warranty and they recommend service every three to five years. They state in their manuals that movements over 20mm are tested to -3/+2. I believe Rolex is saying all movements, not just 3255, are tested to -2/+2. If we want to say Pateks have better finishing, agree, they have more hand work, agree, better materials, probably, but better engineered, more accurate, or more durable, I doubt it.
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Old 14 July 2015, 11:12 AM   #35
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OP. Do you think people who buy PP instead of Rolex do so because of 2 seconds accuracy?
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Old 14 July 2015, 11:22 AM   #36
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I want rugged and functional. If rolex still made the 15xx movements, we wouldn't know the difference.
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Old 14 July 2015, 11:50 AM   #37
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OP. Do you think people who buy PP instead of Rolex do so because of 2 seconds accuracy?
Boy great question. My answer is I believe it plays a part, how much a part is a personal choice, but when deciding on a watch, if it were down to a Rolex versus Patek, I know that one consideration for me would be the increased accuaracy and standard of the PP. Is two seconds a day going to make a difference in my life? No, of course not, but being the (slightly) OCD Engineer that I am, striving for the absolute best and most efficient is just a part of who I am.
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