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Old 6 June 2008, 02:39 AM   #1
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GMT ll Ceramic Annoying Problem

I really love my new GMT ll c


but for the second time now i had to screw the last link in which almost come fully out.

I am glad I happened to catch it both times.

Imagine if I was in the ocean swimming and the link unscrewed and I lost the watch!!

So as the old saying go, its only as stong as the weak link,, no matter how good the clasp is or how strong the bracelet,, ALL it takes is for one link to unscrew itself and the watch could be history?

Is there a special locktite for watch link screws?

I really need to get this problem resolved. Last time I just about broke the screw driver head torquing the link in,, and in a month it still came out almost all the way.

NOT GOOD for a $5,000 + watch.

Just beware everyone of this.


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Old 6 June 2008, 02:43 AM   #2
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This has happened to me with my milgauss, just make sure you tighten the loose screw to a point where it will not come out again. After all they are screwed in, not glued in.
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Old 6 June 2008, 02:43 AM   #3
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A dab of Loctite 220 on the threads is recommended in several threads on this forum.
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Old 6 June 2008, 02:47 AM   #4
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Check this thread out:http://http://www.rolexforums.com/sh...light=locktite

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Old 6 June 2008, 03:20 AM   #5
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I would never wear a bracelet in the ocean to begin with but I do get your point. That is were the whole argument over lug holes and the true "tool" watch comes from, quick bracelet changes to a nylon strap is essential for a diver. Locktite will do the trick, hopefully anyway. Good luck
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Old 6 June 2008, 04:30 AM   #6
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A dab of Loctite 220 on the threads is recommended in several threads on this forum.



Do's:
- Do wash your Rolex periodically - plain soap, soft toothbrush and water will do just fine.
- Do carry out the drying and cleaning process in the safety of your bed - not over bathroom tiles. Murphy is just a handshake away.
- Do try to keep your Rolex away from strong magnetic fields.
- If you lay your watch on the dresser, do keep the dial away from direct sunlight. Over an extended period of time, strong sunlight can fade away the dials.
- At night, do rest your watch on a soft padded cloth on your dresser. Avoid direct contact with another piece of metal or wood.
- If you place your watch flat on its back, dial up, do place a cloth between the caseback and the bracelet.
- Do use Loctite 220 on the bracelet screws so that bracelet does not accidentally come off. There are enough horror stories about people that have lost their watches because of loose screws. Rumor has it that Rolex uses Loctite 220 as well.
- Do make sure that the crown is screwed in at all times.
- Do wear your Rolex as often as possible.
- Do get your Rolex serviced every 5 years. Hopefully from a certified Rolex watchmaker. We can help :)
- Do buy your Rolex from people that actually care about and understand Rolex watches. It's generally a fun hobby that has a tendency to turn into a good investment. Plan on spending your money wisely.
- Do remove your watch before playing Golf, Squash, or Tennis. Your 'Train' may get knocked out of sync.

Don't's:
- Don't use chemicals to clean your Rolex. It doesn't matter how effective the chemicals are in cleaning any other household dirt or grime.
- If you watch has stopped, don't violently shake your watch. Nice and soft swirls, just like swirling a fine red wine in a wine glass, to get the rotor moving will do the trick.
- Don't overtighten the crown. You don't need to. The seal inside the crown has been designed to sit on top of the stem and form a perfect hermetic seal against all natural elements. The more you tighten it, the greater the pressure exerted on the seal which will eventually break with the pressure against the top of the steel stem... eventually losing its efficacy as a waterproof seal.
- Don't worry about scratches on your Rolex. Scratches give it character.
- Don't worry if you should or should not remove the hologram on the caseback. Eventually, it will come off.
- Don't fret about your Rolex gaining or losing 2 seconds every month.
- Don't open up the crown more times than necessary.
- Don't use anything stronger than Loctite 220 to ensure that the bracelet screws stay in place.
- Don't buy your Rolex from fleabay. Plan on spending your money wisely.
- Don't polish the center links on SS watches to make them look like something they are not. It's tacky, please don't do it.
- Don't wear short-sleeve shirts in the middle of winter to show-off your Rolex. You'll catch pneumonia.

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Old 6 June 2008, 04:36 AM   #7
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THANKS GUYS

I will get some locktite


I go swimming in FL in the ocean on weekends and wear this GMT in the water.

I bought this watch for that and I am sure many other swim with their Rollies, right?


I will take all the screws out and locktite them

It has happened twice that I almost lost this watch, third time Shame on me!!


Now, where to get the locktite.

ACE Hardware!! lol


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Old 6 June 2008, 04:39 AM   #8
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Old 6 June 2008, 04:39 AM   #9
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If you place your watch flat on its back, dial up, do place a cloth between the caseback and the bracelet.

Any reason?
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Old 6 June 2008, 04:45 AM   #10
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If you place your watch flat on its back, dial up, do place a cloth between the caseback and the bracelet.

Any reason?
This will help you to avoid caseback scratches because of the bracelet contact with the caseback
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Old 6 June 2008, 04:46 AM   #11
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If you place your watch flat on its back, dial up, do place a cloth between the caseback and the bracelet.

Any reason?
It's a WIS thing....

The cloth would avoid the bracelet touching the caseback directly and scratch it.
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Old 6 June 2008, 07:55 AM   #12
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A good watch supply place will have the loctite online. That's where I bought mine. Now I go anywhere I want to go in the water and don't worry about losing them. They're insured anyway. I've heard too many horror stories to let me know that the watch needs to be protected. I've heard the; "It can't happen to me" too many times. All of Elizabeth's and my jewelery, including watches, are insured.

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Old 6 June 2008, 07:59 AM   #13
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Make sure it is the Blue loctite and not the Red; Jim
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Old 6 June 2008, 08:44 AM   #14
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I had exactly the same thing happen with my GMT IIc. Using some glue on the offending screw fixed it, though this thread has reminded me it might be a good idea to glue the other screws.
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Old 6 June 2008, 09:21 AM   #15
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This was a problem with my Raymond Weil braceslit before it was sold. When the braceslit would move the screw would gradually become loose. One day I noticed it just in time the screw was nearly all the way out. The suggestions above that the helpful folks gave should sort you out.
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Old 6 June 2008, 10:10 AM   #16
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Make sure it is the Blue loctite and not the Red; Jim
220 loctite that I have is in a red bottle.

Try this loctite link. http://www.henkelna.com/cps/rde/xchg...UID=0000000I07
I'd let my AD check the link screws, he can make sure it (Rolex) has enough treadlock.
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Old 6 June 2008, 11:56 AM   #17
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I have found that a drop of light oil helps gold screws stay tight. Just my observation after having a couple back out. Thanks !
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Old 6 June 2008, 12:43 PM   #18
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Make sure it is the Blue loctite and not the Red; Jim
Blue Loctite is all that is necessary so the screw will not loosen. Apply a drop on a toothpick and transfer to the threads of the screw. Red Loctite requires a higher degree of torque to remove and sometimes heat to loosen. Blue/Red refer to the color of the liquid inside the bottle or tube. Loctite is also available at "Big Box" hardware and auto parts stores.
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Old 6 June 2008, 01:12 PM   #19
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Blue Loctite is all that is necessary so the screw will not loosen. Apply a drop on a toothpick and transfer to the threads of the screw. Red Loctite requires a higher degree of torque to remove and sometimes heat to loosen. Blue/Red refer to the color of the liquid inside the bottle or tube. Loctite is also available at "Big Box" hardware and auto parts stores.
i have to second this,works great for me
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Old 6 June 2008, 01:27 PM   #20
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thanks guys

i ll go to the hardware store and ask for the blue bottle locktite


i grabbed my watch yesterday and put in on and just by chance itched my wrist and felt a burr and said ,, whats going on???


And sure enough the link screw was almost out!!! Unbelievable. They have this gorgeous thick polished stainless steel bracelet,, new clasps and I thought this watch could survive a nuclear attack BUT I hit the weak link I guess.

Now I am checking this thing every 30 seconds to ensure its not loose,, its driving me crazy so tomorrow I ll run over to ACE.

And I ll be paranoid abt swimming with it even with locktite. Darn..

thanks!!

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Old 6 June 2008, 06:03 PM   #21
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WHOA!! WHOA!! WHOA!!! 23 Rollies, over 27 years and I've NEVER, I mean NEVER, had a screw come loose on any of my Rolex bracelets......BOTH Jubilee and Oyster!!

How the hell can that happen!!!???
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Old 6 June 2008, 08:34 PM   #22
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Happened to me with a Sub I had, screw came out and it fell off in a shop while I was standing waiting to be served. It was only a few months old. I have also noticed a screw on my LV had backed out ever so slightly and it is only just over a year old. In both watches I had an extra link put in by the AD when I bought them so maybe they don't use superglue.

A mate of mine had his Sub go in a nightclub one night and it was only fortunate someone picked it up and gave him it back, probably no trealising what it was.

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Do's:
- Do wash your Rolex periodically - plain soap, soft toothbrush and water will do just fine.
- Do carry out the drying and cleaning process in the safety of your bed - not over bathroom tiles. Murphy is just a handshake away.
- Do try to keep your Rolex away from strong magnetic fields.
- If you lay your watch on the dresser, do keep the dial away from direct sunlight. Over an extended period of time, strong sunlight can fade away the dials.
- At night, do rest your watch on a soft padded cloth on your dresser. Avoid direct contact with another piece of metal or wood.
- If you place your watch flat on its back, dial up, do place a cloth between the caseback and the bracelet.
- Do use Loctite 220 on the bracelet screws so that bracelet does not accidentally come off. There are enough horror stories about people that have lost their watches because of loose screws. Rumor has it that Rolex uses Loctite 220 as well.
- Do make sure that the crown is screwed in at all times.
- Do wear your Rolex as often as possible.
- Do get your Rolex serviced every 5 years. Hopefully from a certified Rolex watchmaker. We can help :)
- Do buy your Rolex from people that actually care about and understand Rolex watches. It's generally a fun hobby that has a tendency to turn into a good investment. Plan on spending your money wisely.
- Do remove your watch before playing Golf, Squash, or Tennis. Your 'Train' may get knocked out of sync.

Don't's:
- Don't use chemicals to clean your Rolex. It doesn't matter how effective the chemicals are in cleaning any other household dirt or grime.
- If you watch has stopped, don't violently shake your watch. Nice and soft swirls, just like swirling a fine red wine in a wine glass, to get the rotor moving will do the trick.
- Don't overtighten the crown. You don't need to. The seal inside the crown has been designed to sit on top of the stem and form a perfect hermetic seal against all natural elements. The more you tighten it, the greater the pressure exerted on the seal which will eventually break with the pressure against the top of the steel stem... eventually losing its efficacy as a waterproof seal.
- Don't worry about scratches on your Rolex. Scratches give it character.
- Don't worry if you should or should not remove the hologram on the caseback. Eventually, it will come off.
- Don't fret about your Rolex gaining or losing 2 seconds every month.
- Don't open up the crown more times than necessary.
- Don't use anything stronger than Loctite 220 to ensure that the bracelet screws stay in place.
- Don't buy your Rolex from fleabay. Plan on spending your money wisely.
- Don't polish the center links on SS watches to make them look like something they are not. It's tacky, please don't do it.
- Don't wear short-sleeve shirts in the middle of winter to show-off your Rolex. You'll catch pneumonia.

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Lovely Bo! I quite like this "10 Commandments"!
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Blue Loctite is all that is necessary so the screw will not loosen. Apply a drop on a toothpick and transfer to the threads of the screw. Red Loctite requires a higher degree of torque to remove and sometimes heat to loosen. Blue/Red refer to the color of the liquid inside the bottle or tube. Loctite is also available at "Big Box" hardware and auto parts stores.
Jim & Jumper are right. DO NOT USE RED for anything unless it's a permanant application. Loctite makes products in colors to determine strength. RED means DANGER & it's almost impossible to loosen. BE SURE YOU USE BLUE! Good Luck!
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WHOA!! WHOA!! WHOA!!! 23 Rollies, over 27 years and I've NEVER, I mean NEVER, had a screw come loose on any of my Rolex bracelets......BOTH Jubilee and Oyster!!

How the hell can that happen!!!???

Probably from screwing around (sorry) with the bracelet and reassembling without Loctite.
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Old 7 June 2008, 02:01 AM   #26
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The irony is for 50 years I have been wearing watches, Times, seikos, citizens, baume mercier all the the links have the springs at each end thats you compress. The bracelets have steel beveled posts that you have to tap in the hole to hold the links.

The the bracelets or straps have NEVER come undone on me in the 50 years I ve been wearing these watches.

I buy a $5500 watch and I almost lose it because they use screws instead of steel posts.

Go Figure!!

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