no box/papers

[Galion]

Not a must but nice to have, I traded a couple of old Rolex, no box/papers to one of our TDs here hassle free, price was fair, no lowball offer.

[Speed]

Originally Posted by azguy

Believe me, you want the box and papers when you go to sell it otherwise the vultures point out the missing "pieces" as an excuse to throw low ball offers at you.

EXACTLY.

So why...why...why - unless you KNOW you will NEVER sell the watch... would you not want all the bits knowing most astute buyers - even if they didn't give a monkey's bum about box and papers - would use the fact they're missing as a bargaining point to offer you less! It just makes sense.

[FTX I]

Originally Posted by Sublover2166

Wow. Rolex actually encouraged customers to use the watch box as an ashtray for cigarettes? I would have never imagined! Now I realize that in the 40's and 50's smoking cigarettes was actually glamorized, but wow.

Didn't know that too. This forum is great. Thanks Larry and Adam

[judodave1964]

When I was looking for a non date sub last year, i looked at a 14060m year 2012 with all documents, hang tags even the till receipt. But the condition of the watch was dog rough,so box and papers do not mean all owners look after their watchs. Condition and service papers are more important than an out of date warranty to me.

[breitlings]

Originally Posted by Galion

Not a must but nice to have, I traded a couple of old Rolex, no box/papers to one of our TDs here hassle free, price was fair, no lowball offer.

Have thought about flipping once or twice a watch without papers.

One popular TRF seller lowballed me and didn't even make an offer, they didn't decline a trade but unprofessionally said "my watch was worth much less" (14060 vs 16622) and didn't even talk about what was needed for a trade -- I'll never reach out to them in the future. interestingly they only asked about the warranty papers not the box.

another was great with an offer on a GMT 16710 without papers, Alfred, I believe.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by Sublover2166

Wow. Rolex actually encouraged customers to use the watch box as an ashtray for cigarettes? I would have never imagined! Now I realize that in the 40's and 50's smoking cigarettes was actually glamorized, but wow.

No, not as an ashtray, as a cigarette box. It was just the right size. Most people smoked in those days. Rolex wasn't encouraging anyone to smoke, just suggesting an everyday household use for the box.