Simply...The Wine Thread

[Lucky777]

Originally Posted by wantonebad

Curious Leon, how do you feel about Merlot as a varietal usually, I tend to shy away from it. No not because Paul Giamatti hated it in Sideways, but actually because it always seems to by it's nature lack a finish. Great fruit usually but always lacking in memory or trace. Again JMHO

I agree wholeheartedly although I do love Plumpjack Merlot!

[TheRolexKingofLV]

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel

...you can join in and explain your visions on your certain likes of wines as well.

Thanks for the invite Mark!

I really don't "know" anything about watches, other than how to buy them. But all that takes is money. But I have enough sense not to act like I do "know" about watches, using technical jargon, and speaking about something I know nothing about, which is def more frequent than not here on this thread. If somebody made "errors" like these over a watch here on TRF, he'd be ridiculed to death. Some people just like to hear themselves talk...especially when it comes to wine. People like that come into our tasting room daily with there pompous attitudes, and tend to be the most ignorant person in the room about wine. Generally trying to impress there friends on there "knowledge"( I use the term loosely) as well as there "cellar", and how many $100+ bottles they bought at Opus One If somebody is going to talk wine other than " I liked it, I didn't like it", get ready for someone that does know the technical end of wine to "correct" you. Again thanks for the invite Mark. Lookin forward to "chiming in" with a winery owners perspective. Considering my family has been making wine since pre-prohibition, I feel qualified to speak about it. TN

[flyboyx999]

Here, for you red burgundy drinkers

[fusionstorm]

^^^ Well done!

[fusionstorm]

Finally getting around to opening my shipment from Schrader of the 2013 vintage.......

[RHIII]

Originally Posted by fusionstorm

Finally getting around to opening my shipment from Schrader of the 2013 vintage.......

That's some good wine right there. 👍 enjoy!!!


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[fusionstorm]

3 of the RBS, 2 of the LPV and 1 of the CCS.........

[TheRolexKingofLV]

Originally Posted by fusionstorm

3 of the RBS, 2 of the LPV and 1 of the CCS.........

Well done sir. Beckstoffer fruit is amongst some the best in the valley.

[flyboyx999]

Originally Posted by fusionstorm

Finally getting around to opening my shipment from Schrader of the 2013 vintage.......

That is some good wine, lay it down a little and drink it with good health.

[Bocktagon]

Originally Posted by TheRolexKingofLV

Thanks for the invite Mark!

I really don't "know" anything about watches, other than how to buy them. But all that takes is money. But I have enough sense not to act like I do "know" about watches, using technical jargon, and speaking about something I know nothing about, which is def more frequent than not here on this thread. If somebody made "errors" like these over a watch here on TRF, he'd be ridiculed to death. Some people just like to hear themselves talk...especially when it comes to wine. People like that come into our tasting room daily with there pompous attitudes, and tend to be the most ignorant person in the room about wine. Generally trying to impress there friends on there "knowledge"( I use the term loosely) as well as there "cellar", and how many $100+ bottles they bought at Opus One If somebody is going to talk wine other than " I liked it, I didn't like it", get ready for someone that does know the technical end of wine to "correct" you. Again thanks for the invite Mark. Lookin forward to "chiming in" with a winery owners perspective. Considering my family has been making wine since pre-prohibition, I feel qualified to speak about it. TN

Impressive. Quite a long line of knowledge you must have there.

[fusionstorm]

Originally Posted by TheRolexKingofLV

Well done sir. Beckstoffer fruit is amongst some the best in the valley.

Indeed. And Gary prices his stuff accordingly to his clients......

Originally Posted by flyboyx999

That is some good wine, lay it down a little and drink it with good health.

I hope I'm still in good health when I crack one of these open.......

[Runnin' Rebel]

Here's the point I was trying to make on Napa and surrounding area concerning the Chardonnay drinkability after certain years. You'll see that at the 5 year point they are all at peak drinking time. Very little variable, some at 6-9 years.

For some reason Sonoma wasn't included but shouldn't make much difference.

So, this being 2015 all the 2010 (5 years) are peaked and ready to drink. All at 2006/05/04 are drinkable but in decline. 2003 are past their peak, which was the point I was trying to make with my earlier posts.

2011 and 2012 are not quite there generally but can poured.

Anything 2002 or older are generally undrinkable, although there might be exceptions.

The Cabernet as you can see is the top 2 lines so discount those as we're strictly talking Chardonnay.

This is a general guide from Wine Spectator, so in closing there are slight variables like alcohol content, barrel time or aging in stainless steal etc..that might make it last longer or speed up aging.

If you google "how long can Chardonnay last before opening" with some exceptions you should see 5 years from bottling.

Happy drinking and I hope no one took offense at anything that was said, as I didn't.

[TheRolexKingofLV]

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel

For some reason Sonoma wasn't included but shouldn't make much difference

Ummm Russian River Valley is Sonoma County fyi.

[Runnin' Rebel]

And Alexander Valley is an AVA in Sonoma too. But Russian River Valley is mentioned and that wasn't. Appreciate the heads up though.

I guess your dinner invitation is off now

EDIT: I brought up Alexander Valley because it's one of the most densely planted areas in Sonoma County.

[TheRolexKingofLV]

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel

I guess your dinner invitation is off now

Mark I would love to do a dinner with you still! I think it would be fun!

[fusionstorm]

Originally Posted by TheRolexKingofLV

Ummm Russian River Valley is Sonoma County fyi.

Carneros as well has a good portion of Sonoma land w/in the AVA.

[Rock]

Saturday night I rock, drink and cook - all at the same time.
Great music (Midnight Oil) fun food (Homemade Prawn & Pepperoni Pizza) and great aged Aussie wine (Saltrams 2004 Barossa Cab sav.)

[BNA/LION]

Tonight's Delight...

A great classic Bordeaux style blend and a good value for the price.

Winemaker's Notes

Deep crimson color. Aromas of mocha, black currant, cocoa, and a melange of baking spices. Flavors of velvety, ripe fruit elevated by notes of chocolate and French vanilla. Velvety tannins complement a lengthy, utterly elegant finish.

Blend: 78% Cabernet Sauvignon, 18% Merlot, 4% Malbec

Some additional notes as well...

Opens with aromas of cherry leather and spice. Medium in body with softly gripping tannins and nicely integrated acidity. In addition to red fruit, sweet tobacco and minerals please the palate with a somewhat buttery vanilla flavor and a satisfying finish. A lot of nice flavors going on here. Lush black cherry and currant fruit with notes of mocha and some oak.

[BNA/LION]

Originally Posted by fusionstorm

3 of the RBS, 2 of the LPV and 1 of the CCS.........

Oh Ya! Very nice pick up!

[GED]

Drinking this as I post a

Tenuta Sette Ponti Crognolo 2011


Winemaker's notes: "Intense ruby red in color, the wine has a fruity, spicy bouquet and ripe cherry and berries on the palate. It has the vivid acidity typical of Sangiovese, with well-integrated tannins and an earthy finish".

(It's very nice!)

[incontrol]

Originally Posted by GED

Drinking this as I post a

Tenuta Sette Ponti Crognolo 2011


Winemaker's notes: "Intense ruby red in color, the wine has a fruity, spicy bouquet and ripe cherry and berries on the palate. It has the vivid acidity typical of Sangiovese, with well-integrated tannins and an earthy finish".

(It tastes great-really!)

I have a few of these. I can not wait to try it.

[HL65]

For tonight dinner with some friends two of my favorites: 2008 Les Pavots and 2003 Kayli Morgan

[RHIII]

Originally Posted by HL65

For tonight dinner with some friends...08 Les Pavots and 03 Kayli Morgan

Two of my favorites right there!!! Enjoy them!!! (I know you will!!)

We opened up an '07 AND an '00 Les Pavot at the lake with some friends before thanksgiving and they were amazing --- the 07 was perfection.

I'm anxious to hear how the 08 is.

Hundred Acre...no words needed - probably my favorite Napa cab.

I hate they're closed (PM) while the wife and I are in Napa after Christmas -- but we'll be getting the new allocations - I think right after the new year...

Cheers my friend!!!

[TheRolexKingofLV]

Originally Posted by HL65

For tonight dinner with some friends two of my favorites: 2008 Les Pavots and 2003 Kayli Morgan

That Peter Michael is really something special...no question the nicest vineyards in Knights Valley :thumbs: Enjoy

[Runnin' Rebel]

Yes, in the spring. It's like an incoming for me 2013 Kayli Morgan. Can't wait

[HL65]

Originally Posted by RHIII

Two of my favorites right there!!! Enjoy them!!! (I know you will!!)

We opened up an '07 AND an '00 Les Pavot at the lake with some friends before thanksgiving and they were amazing --- the 07 was perfection.

I'm anxious to hear how the 08 is.

Hundred Acre...no words needed - probably my favorite Napa cab.

I hate they're closed (PM) while the wife and I are in Napa after Christmas -- but we'll be getting the new allocations - I think right after the new year...

Cheers my friend!!!

Originally Posted by TheRolexKingofLV

That Peter Michael is really something special...no question the nicest vineyards in Knights Valley :thumbs: Enjoy

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel

Yes, in the spring. It's like an incoming for me 2013 Kayli Morgan. Can't wait

Thanks gents! Roger I can tell you the 08' drinks very well being both complex and silky with a long finish like so many of the great wines that have come out of this amazing vineyard. Trace I agree with 100% and one of my most enjoyable wines.

The Hundred Acre is also an enjoyable wine and a big one at that much like JW's personality!

[rr-nyc]

Originally Posted by TheRolexKingofLV

Merlot tends to be one of those " mouth-feel" wines. Novice drinkers tend to gravitate towards it because of its approachable, soft, buttery attributes, that aren't as dry, or big, as say a Cab, hence the exact reason why the French have been using it there Bordeaux blends to soften up big Burgundian wines for centuries. When blended, only about 20%+ or- Merlot is used. Check your Napa Valley Silver Oak bottles, that's a Bordeaux blend! Blending is done by using any number of the 5 varietals(in any %s) allowed by French law (Cabernet, Cab Franc, Merlot, Petite Verdot, Malbec) Here in the USA we can only call it a "Meritage" by law. It's the same laws put on us by the French when it came to Champagne...that's why we have "sparkling wine" in Calif. Truth is "Meritage" isn't even a "real" word! We Americans made it up! Don't be fooled though, some Napa( and plenty other regions) Merlots are as big as any Cabs thought of being, depending on the fruit, and how it's "built". Happy searching!

Bordeaux blends, as you stated, are made up of the five varietals. They have nothing to do with softening up Burgundian wines. Burgundy wines are not only a different region but almost exclusively Pinot noir


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[TheRolexKingofLV]

Originally Posted by rr-nyc

Bordeaux blends, as you stated, are made up of the five varietals. They have nothing to do with softening up Burgundian wines. Burgundy wines are not only a different region but almost exclusively Pinot noir

Noted. you are 100% correct Renato My sentence should have read..."French/Bordeux region wines" not "Burgundian"....sorry I had Pinot Noir on the brain.

[rr-nyc]

Originally Posted by TheRolexKingofLV

Noted. you are 100% correct Renato My sentence should have read..."French/Bordeux region wines" not "Burgundian"....sorry I had Pinot Noir on the brain.

Just bustin' your balls a bit. It's pretty clear to me that you know wine

[GerardoG]

Just something simple to sit down and talk.