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Old 2 January 2016, 09:00 AM   #31
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New explorer 2 black

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I am trying to decide between a 216570 and a 16570, both black dial.

I wore a 16570 for a long time and stupidly moved it on. Now, with prices
agreeable on the 5 digits, I thought now is my chance - but I wonder about
the long term prices of the 5 digits.

For anyone who has either watch, if you were starting today in 2016,
which would you choose? The 5 digit watch or the newer 42mm model?

I prefer the new bracelet, but the old watch. I just don't want to get
caught "underneath" an older version. I'd choose a 3186 black dial to try
and help that, but still, I would wonder.
Hi,
I bought black explorer 2 a month ago. I have small wrist 6.5 inch. I liked the complications of the explorer 2 and GMT hand is amazing. Also the bracelet is super strong with micro adjustment clasp which is very useful. The blue luminescence at night is amazing and stays bright for whole night.

Initially I thought the dial would be bigger for my wrist and in the last 4 weeks I got used to it. It feels slightly heavy and probably I need some more time to get used to it.

I would strongly recommend you to go for new black k explorer and I am sure you won't regret.

Good luck and keep us posted with your progress

Thank you.
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Old 3 January 2016, 01:51 AM   #32
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I have a SubC and new Polar Explorer 2. The Explorer, though larger at 42 is more comfortable on the wrist and wears "smaller" than the Sub- maybe because of the lower profile. I've had a number of Rolex watches throughout the years and the new Explorer is by far my favorite.
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Old 3 January 2016, 04:21 AM   #33
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Oh no Steve, I thought you had the newer Exp 2 black dial as your favourite.

What are they making way for?


To Threadstarter, You cant go wrong with the 16570. Built to last, all rounder watch. The newer reference with all its upgrades will be good, only if you dont mind the size. It sits flat on most wrists, comfy, but with the 42mm and thicker hands, does make it a slightly larger profile.


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Interesting thread.

By far the superior watch is the new 42 MM version. Movement upgrade, bracelet upgrade, dial upgrade etc.

I have both. White and black. The white is being traded in. Maybe the black also.

I will keep the two 5 digit references.

The new ones wear big. Too big for me.

I so want to like the black dial 42 MM.. Orange hand..matt dial. But! And it's a big but..just something about it.

So. Would take this all day. It's a classic.
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Old 3 January 2016, 04:24 AM   #34
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I know..

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Oh no Steve, I thought you had the newer Exp 2 black dial as your favourite.

What are they making way for?


To Threadstarter, You cant go wrong with the 16570. Built to last, all rounder watch. The newer reference with all its upgrades will be good, only if you dont mind the size. It sits flat on most wrists, comfy, but with the 42mm and thicker hands, does make it a slightly larger profile.
I know.

I so want to like it. To look at, yes it's my favourite...but every time I wear it I end up taking it off! I find it to clunky.

They are making way for the Grail...
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Old 3 January 2016, 04:33 AM   #35
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Awesome, good luck on the grail(s)!

Day date 40 is awesome, can have a look.


Should keep 1 of the 216570 though, as a complete collection of the modern explorers lineup.
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Old 3 January 2016, 06:12 AM   #36
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Well....

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Awesome, good luck on the grail(s)!

Day date 40 is awesome, can have a look.


Should keep 1 of the 216570 though, as a complete collection of the modern explorers lineup.
Well. I have the: explorer 36 MM, black and white explorer 2 5 digit. And the same in the new models. So that's bonkers. The white dial new one is definitely going. So it's s choice, keep either the new explorer or new explorer 2....
I just want the one new Rolex in the collection. Logically it should be the orange hand....
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Old 3 January 2016, 06:36 AM   #37
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I have a polar 16570 and found a great polar 216570 preowned for $5300. Figured it was time to go bigger. I went to my local AD to try the 42mm on just to be sure and it was just too big for me (my wrist is about 6.5"). Unfortunately or fortunately for me, they happened to have a 116520 in stock which fit beautifully. Cost me more than double, but very happy now with both.
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Old 3 January 2016, 06:45 AM   #38
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I have a polar 16570 and found a great polar 216570 preowned for $5300. Figured it was time to go bigger. I went to my local AD to try the 42mm on just to be sure and it was just too big for me (my wrist is about 6.5"). Unfortunately or fortunately for me, they happened to have a 116520 in stock which fit beautifully. Cost me more than double, but very happy now with both.
Good call!
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Old 3 January 2016, 07:30 AM   #39
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I have a polar 16570 and found a great polar 216570 preowned for $5300. Figured it was time to go bigger. I went to my local AD to try the 42mm on just to be sure and it was just too big for me (my wrist is about 6.5"). Unfortunately or fortunately for me, they happened to have a 116520 in stock which fit beautifully. Cost me more than double, but very happy now with both.
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Old 3 January 2016, 01:32 PM   #40
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I have a SubC and new Polar Explorer 2. The Explorer, though larger at 42 is more comfortable on the wrist and wears "smaller" than the Sub- maybe because of the lower profile. I've had a number of Rolex watches throughout the years and the new Explorer is by far my favorite.
With the Polar being your favorite now, would you consider owning it in black as a one and only as opposed to the SubC / Polar combo? - this is one of my thoughts as well, having this exact combo..........First world problems!
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Old 3 January 2016, 03:56 PM   #41
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I'd go with the 216570 hands down. I have a few thoughts on it posted https://www.minus4plus6.com/SD4000.php and https://www.minus4plus6.com/216570.php

I've had the 216570 for the last four years and haven't gone back.



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Old 4 January 2016, 04:07 AM   #42
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I like the newer model myself for the size and bracelet
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Old 4 January 2016, 05:34 AM   #43
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I have a polar 16570 v-serial and a newer 116610 sub...the 16570 is such a nice classic watch...since I work a lot at night, my only gripe on the 16570 is the lume...it works...but it doesn't last as long or stay as bright as the 116610. I think the lume is the same on the 116610 and 216570. Just something to consider.


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Old 4 January 2016, 08:59 AM   #44
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I think the new one hands down. The quality of the new version is just so much better. New bracelet, movement etc. The drawback si it is big but it is also flat so it wears "smaller" than a 42mm watch, if that makes sense. If you want a 40mm version the only one that makes sense to me is the McQueen but thats real $$$ now. Otherwise...42mm for me.
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Old 12 January 2016, 07:34 PM   #45
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I'm having a dilemma here myself. Thinking of adding a Polar Explorer and not sure which one to get to complement my Pepsi and my SubC






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