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oahuSUB · 4 February 2016, 04:54 PM

Aloha Members,

I am looking to acquire this 16750 from a local dealer here in Hawaii..

I just want some assurance from all you seasoned collectors. I am sure you will have things to say happy.gif

Concerns: 2 o'clock dial markers patina is darker, over time will the rest of the markers continue to patina in the same fashion?

Please see attached service paperwork and pictures, and be honest please!!!

Mahalo,

Brian

Vincent65 · 4 February 2016, 08:37 PM

That hour plot would bother me. So would the over-polished case.

oligeo · 4 February 2016, 09:12 PM

Yep,

The 2 O'clock lug would be a deal breaker for me. As soon as I see a springbar pointing out, I don't go any further. The other log hole I can see is also pretty "rounded".

swish77 · 4 February 2016, 10:40 PM

What's the receipt from Bob Ridley? Was that work done by the previous owner? There are a couple things on there that would bother me. If I'm reading it right, the hands were color-matched and something on the case was laser welded. I would pass on that alone, not to mention the other issues mentioned above.

Now, Bob is fantastic, and there's nothing wrong with making these types of repairs on a watch if they're needed, of course. However, if I'm in the market for a vintage GMT, there are others out there that don't have these issues.

yoast · 4 February 2016, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vincent65

that hour plot would bother me. So would the over-polished case.

+1

texex91 · 4 February 2016, 11:19 PM

Well good to see Bob's price list

I would pass on it.

TheBluePrince · 5 February 2016, 12:05 AM

I'd like to see a "before" the $2850 service pic!

Lugs that you can see look badly and over polished.

jban5 · 5 February 2016, 12:17 AM

That GMT must have led an interesting life, the invoice looks like what an ER report for Evil Kenevil must have looked after a bad jump.

droptopman · 5 February 2016, 12:19 AM

As others have stated, case is over polished and that off colored lume plot would bother me as well. Plenty of other examples out there to chose from.

HERITAGE82 · 5 February 2016, 12:36 AM

All that work plus a $50 charge for a water pressure test then NO WATER WARRANTY!!!!

Too Old · 5 February 2016, 01:46 AM

Could the laser weld at 1:00 have been done with the dial in situ? That maybe why the 1 plot is darker.

oahuSUB · 5 February 2016, 02:22 AM

Mahalo for confirming my doubts you guys, much appreciated!!

Brian

oahuSUB · 5 February 2016, 02:24 AM

The search continues!!!!

Brian

05carbondrz · 5 February 2016, 03:56 AM

That Invoice is Insane!

Paul · 5 February 2016, 01:05 PM

As an aside, I can remember buying 1675s for the cost of that service ... and it wasn't really that long ago

Back on topic, the recent Bob Ridley service means the watch should be in absolutely fine fettle. Bob's reputation is absolutely top tier.
This means the buyer really can focus their energy on the aesthetics, without having to worry about any problems lurking within.

If I could live with the obvious flaws, I'd pay a premium to get a watch that was freshly serviced by Bob Ridley. His warranty may be transferable to the new owner too

texex91 · 5 February 2016, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul

As an aside, I can remember buying 1675s for the cost of that service ... and it wasn't really that long ago

Back on topic, the recent Bob Ridley service means the watch should be in absolutely fine fettle. Bob's reputation is absolutely top tier.
This means the buyer really can focus their energy on the aesthetics, without having to worry about any problems lurking within.

If I could live with the obvious flaws, I'd pay a premium to get a watch that was freshly serviced by Bob Ridley. His warranty may be transferable to the new owner too

Certainly no one here is questioning Bob's work...he is a pro and we all know that.

Howevwer we have no clue what the seller even was asking for the watch (only Bob's invoice was stated), so too early to say if it's a 'bargain'.

But looking at that case/dial, I wouldn't touch it, no matter how nice the inside is

TheBluePrince · 5 February 2016, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul

As an aside, I can remember buying 1675s for the cost of that service ... and it wasn't really that long ago

Back on topic, the recent Bob Ridley service means the watch should be in absolutely fine fettle. Bob's reputation is absolutely top tier.
This means the buyer really can focus their energy on the aesthetics, without having to worry about any problems lurking within.

If I could live with the obvious flaws, I'd pay a premium to get a watch that was freshly serviced by Bob Ridley. His warranty may be transferable to the new owner too

I'm sure it's in fine fettle after spending that much on it

Too many people just seem to say "Send it to Bob Ridley" as a be all and end all for servicing a watch on here. Next time someone says that I'll point them to this thread too.

Cuba1960 · 6 February 2016, 12:21 AM

Inherited a 1960 Sub from Cuba! All
Papers, no box. Not sure if J. riviera but probably not. Taking it for appraisal today. It works/ sweeping hand. Excited to find out the worth for a 1960 Cuban Rolex!!

Juggernaut · 6 February 2016, 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Too Old

Could the laser weld at 1:00 have been done with the dial in situ? That maybe why the 1 plot is darker.

Very smart....yes, I agree...explains why only that one plot is discolored.

Rameez-Q · 6 February 2016, 03:50 AM

A very pricey service, should of sent it off to AP, probably would of serviced it for cheaper

4 February 2016, 08:37 PM	#2
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,298	That hour plot would bother me. So would the over-polished case. __________________

5 February 2016, 12:19 AM	#9
droptopman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Mark Location: Washington State Watch: SUBS and GMT's! Posts: 9,664	Opinions on 16750 As others have stated, case is over polished and that off colored lume plot would bother me as well. Plenty of other examples out there to chose from. __________________ Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today? Ty: Oh, Judge, I don't keep score. Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers? Ty: By height.

5 February 2016, 12:36 AM	#10
HERITAGE82 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,435	All that work plus a $50 charge for a water pressure test then NO WATER WARRANTY!!!! __________________ - Rolex Explorer - 214270 - Tudor Black Bay - 79230B - Tudor Chronograph - 79270P - Breitling Chronomat - 10th Anniv. - Huguenin Freres Speedmaster Prototype

5 February 2016, 01:05 PM	#15
Paul "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,000	There's some real value in a recent Bob Ridley service ..... As an aside, I can remember buying 1675s for the cost of that service ... and it wasn't really that long ago Back on topic, the recent Bob Ridley service means the watch should be in absolutely fine fettle. Bob's reputation is absolutely top tier. This means the buyer really can focus their energy on the aesthetics, without having to worry about any problems lurking within. If I could live with the obvious flaws, I'd pay a premium to get a watch that was freshly serviced by Bob Ridley. His warranty may be transferable to the new owner too

6 February 2016, 03:50 AM	#20
Rameez-Q "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: UK Watch: Rolex Day Date, Posts: 666	A very pricey service, should of sent it off to AP, probably would of serviced it for cheaper __________________ Vintage, Vintage & more vintage!

4 February 2016, 09:12 PM	#3
oligeo "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Belgium Posts: 60	Yep, The 2 O'clock lug would be a deal breaker for me. As soon as I see a springbar pointing out, I don't go any further. The other log hole I can see is also pretty "rounded".

4 February 2016, 10:40 PM	#4
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,985	What's the receipt from Bob Ridley? Was that work done by the previous owner? There are a couple things on there that would bother me. If I'm reading it right, the hands were color-matched and something on the case was laser welded. I would pass on that alone, not to mention the other issues mentioned above. Now, Bob is fantastic, and there's nothing wrong with making these types of repairs on a watch if they're needed, of course. However, if I'm in the market for a vintage GMT, there are others out there that don't have these issues.

4 February 2016, 11:19 PM	#6
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	Well good to see Bob's price list I would pass on it.

5 February 2016, 12:05 AM	#7
TheBluePrince "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Posts: 2,081	I'd like to see a "before" the $2850 service pic! Lugs that you can see look badly and over polished.

5 February 2016, 12:17 AM	#8
jban5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA Watch: 5513~1675x2~1680~ Posts: 523	That GMT must have led an interesting life, the invoice looks like what an ER report for Evil Kenevil must have looked after a bad jump.

5 February 2016, 01:46 AM	#11
Too Old 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Brian Location: Bucks, UK Posts: 1,096	Could the laser weld at 1:00 have been done with the dial in situ? That maybe why the 1 plot is darker.

5 February 2016, 02:22 AM	#12
oahuSUB "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Hawaii Watch: 5513 Meters First Posts: 11	Mahalo for confirming my doubts you guys, much appreciated!! Brian

5 February 2016, 02:24 AM	#13
oahuSUB "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Hawaii Watch: 5513 Meters First Posts: 11	The search continues!!!! Brian

5 February 2016, 03:56 AM	#14
05carbondrz Banned Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,030	That Invoice is Insane!

6 February 2016, 12:21 AM	#18
Cuba1960 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: oregon Posts: 3	Inherited a 1960 Sub from Cuba! All Papers, no box. Not sure if J. riviera but probably not. Taking it for appraisal today. It works/ sweeping hand. Excited to find out the worth for a 1960 Cuban Rolex!!

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