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spacejam · 27 February 2016, 01:47 PM

Dear All,

Had 2 offers on table and had a difficult choice to make. Need your opinion on the below. A "Y" series with box and papers and the newer "V" series with cert only. The "V" series will cause more damage; around USD 400 more.

Should I opt for the chapter ring series or the earlier one? worth to pay more for the newer series?

Both are my preferred white dials fyi.

Appreciate your comments: )

CDNWatchNut · 27 February 2016, 02:00 PM

I'd go for the Y simply for the lug holes, but the V(assuming all other things being equal on condition) seems a better bet for $400 more.

sickened1 · 27 February 2016, 02:04 PM

Yup, for only $400 more, get the v serial with newer 3186 movement and engraved rehaut (assuming they're both in the same condition).

itsmekevin · 27 February 2016, 02:07 PM

Honestly, I'd go for the one in better condition.

seand442 · 27 February 2016, 02:15 PM

If the V has the 3186 movement, I'd go with that. Has the Y been serviced recently? If not, you might want to take that into consideration. Good luck.

incontrol · 27 February 2016, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seand442

If the V has the 3186 movement, I'd go with that. Has the Y been serviced recently? If not, you might want to take that into consideration. Good luck.

I agree with this 100%.

fishingbear · 27 February 2016, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seand442

If the V has the 3186 movement, I'd go with that. Has the Y been serviced recently? If not, you might want to take that into consideration. Good luck.

Yep, this.

Chewbacca · 27 February 2016, 02:59 PM

the $400 more means little to nothing with out knowing the whole price for each watch.

maybe buy both and then decide which to keep? theres always a market for that watch; especially if bought right.

spacejam · 27 February 2016, 03:25 PM

Thks.... think the 3186 will make a better choice as well...any idea how long was 16570 with 3186 movement in the market before being discon?

kjhawkm · 27 February 2016, 03:28 PM

Y for me: lug holes and no rehaut a big plus in my book.

Runnin' Rebel · 27 February 2016, 04:22 PM

Which one is in the best condition. Plan on at least a minor service, pressure check. If it's a keeper box doesn't mean much. I bought a mint TT 35mm blue dial yacht-master with no box/papers for the wife and she loves it. Sent it off to Vanessa for a look over, as a matter of fact it was shipped to her before I recived it.

spacejam · 27 February 2016, 04:31 PM

V series are definetly with 3186 movement?

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ajas · 27 February 2016, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsmekevin

Honestly, I'd go for the one in better condition.

Agree

iliketime · 28 February 2016, 01:38 AM

Id take the V, was looking at one in the for sale section. wish they were closer to NYC so I can actually check it out first

sea-dweller · 28 February 2016, 02:43 AM

I'd get the V.

manilenyo · 28 February 2016, 02:51 AM

V series gets my vote too. Good luck!

Tools · 28 February 2016, 04:50 AM

Condition should always be the driver in deciding between two watches..

The 3186 movement in early releases is a poor decision for purchase, they are known to break at the re-designed gearset.

Jason71 · 28 February 2016, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

Condition should always be the driver in deciding between two watches..

The 3186 movement in early releases is a poor decision for purchase, they are known to break at the re-designed gearset.

Agreed. I believe the 3186 vs the 3185 is WAY OVER-HYPED.

ESPECIALLY the early 3186. There is no way I would pay a premium for it in a 5-digit model.

JMHO though.

Porter · 28 February 2016, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chewbacca

the $400 more means little to nothing with out knowing the whole price for each watch.

Maybe buy both and then decide which to keep? Theres always a market for that watch; especially if bought right.

+1

27 February 2016, 01:47 PM	#1
spacejam "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: singapore Posts: 78	which 16570 explorer will you choose? Dear All, Had 2 offers on table and had a difficult choice to make. Need your opinion on the below. A "Y" series with box and papers and the newer "V" series with cert only. The "V" series will cause more damage; around USD 400 more. Should I opt for the chapter ring series or the earlier one? worth to pay more for the newer series? Both are my preferred white dials fyi. Appreciate your comments: )

27 February 2016, 02:15 PM	#5
seand442 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Earth Watch: 116610 Posts: 3,455	If the V has the 3186 movement, I'd go with that. Has the Y been serviced recently? If not, you might want to take that into consideration. Good luck. __________________ NEVER ARGUE WITH AN IDIOT. FIRST THEY WILL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL. THEN, THEY WILL BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE.

27 February 2016, 04:22 PM	#11
Runnin' Rebel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Mark Location: 🤔 Posts: 8,424	Which one is in the best condition. Plan on at least a minor service, pressure check. If it's a keeper box doesn't mean much. I bought a mint TT 35mm blue dial yacht-master with no box/papers for the wife and she loves it. Sent it off to Vanessa for a look over, as a matter of fact it was shipped to her before I recived it. __________________ ♛

28 February 2016, 02:43 AM	#15
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	I'd get the V. __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

28 February 2016, 04:50 AM	#17
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,494	Condition should always be the driver in deciding between two watches.. The 3186 movement in early releases is a poor decision for purchase, they are known to break at the re-designed gearset. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

27 February 2016, 02:00 PM	#2
CDNWatchNut "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Juan Location: Sherwood Park, Ab Watch: 114060 Posts: 1,509	I'd go for the Y simply for the lug holes, but the V(assuming all other things being equal on condition) seems a better bet for $400 more.

27 February 2016, 02:04 PM	#3
sickened1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Ed Location: SoCal Watch: ugiveiswatchuget Posts: 9,050	Yup, for only $400 more, get the v serial with newer 3186 movement and engraved rehaut (assuming they're both in the same condition).

27 February 2016, 02:07 PM	#4
itsmekevin "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 125	Honestly, I'd go for the one in better condition.

27 February 2016, 02:59 PM	#8
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,112	the $400 more means little to nothing with out knowing the whole price for each watch. maybe buy both and then decide which to keep? theres always a market for that watch; especially if bought right.

27 February 2016, 03:25 PM	#9
spacejam "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: singapore Posts: 78	Thks.... think the 3186 will make a better choice as well...any idea how long was 16570 with 3186 movement in the market before being discon?

27 February 2016, 03:28 PM	#10
kjhawkm "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Dallas Posts: 39	Y for me: lug holes and no rehaut a big plus in my book.

27 February 2016, 04:31 PM	#12
spacejam "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: singapore Posts: 78	V series are definetly with 3186 movement? Sent from my SM-N920I using Tapatalk

28 February 2016, 01:38 AM	#14
iliketime "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Jack Location: NYC Watch: 16570, 16710 Posts: 1,535	Id take the V, was looking at one in the for sale section. wish they were closer to NYC so I can actually check it out first

28 February 2016, 02:51 AM	#16
manilenyo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: manila Posts: 2,541	V series gets my vote too. Good luck!

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