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masterkiller · 21 March 2016, 11:54 PM

I have been looking on c24 for a AP ROO 'the Beast' ie with the original blue dial...

Saw this at a good price, looked nice at first glance on the mobile -then I spotted it, can you?

http://www.chrono24.se/audemarspigue...-id4155377.htm

Watch itself might be kosher but when you put an AP back like that you are not an official AP watchmaker....

911Cab · 21 March 2016, 11:56 PM

Bezel screws are not aligned.

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GB-man · 22 March 2016, 12:02 AM

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Bezel screws are not aligned.

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Lol who screws that up

911Cab · 22 March 2016, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Lol who screws that up

An amateur ! 🍻👊🏽

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SamGMT · 22 March 2016, 12:09 AM

Omg!!

GB-man · 22 March 2016, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 911Cab

An amateur ! 🍻👊🏽

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Maybe hublot serviced it?

Porsche-ah · 22 March 2016, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Maybe hublot serviced it?

Samui · 22 March 2016, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Maybe hublot serviced it?

Best thing I read today

Atleast he got 3 of the screws right

PJ S · 22 March 2016, 01:24 AM

Negotiate it down to the right price that allows you to cover the cost of AP servicing it and making it properly ‘mint’ condition.
I’d use €1300 as a ballpark figure.

csi-n · 22 March 2016, 01:37 AM

That's a good one...

Definitely assembled by someone who has no clue about APs.

Sam

ChrisInCharlotte · 22 March 2016, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Maybe hublot serviced it?

YES

speedfighter · 22 March 2016, 02:42 AM

If Hublot serviced it then that will be good for the next 5 years no problem. Actually now that you mentioned it how come the distance between subdials is so messed up (I know the movement but still any other brand and that's a faux pas)? I would be more concerned with that then screws. Apart from that nice colour and overall shape-nice.

subtona · 22 March 2016, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Maybe hublot serviced it?

turillo · 22 March 2016, 04:51 AM

Nice watch, but I'd stay away from the one you posted.

prwdmd · 22 March 2016, 05:39 AM

Most likely a fake. A dead giveaway is the lack of depth on the date window... notice how shallow the date dial is. Probably running on an ETA/Valjoux movement. On an authentic AP the date will be much more recessed. Also the font on the date looks off. Sub-dial spacing looks wrong. Lol...

AK797 · 22 March 2016, 06:07 AM

Franck Muller crazy screws, roulette edition.

lapince · 22 March 2016, 09:06 AM

The seller is from where? He has box and papers? Maybe real but serviced by an idiot, in any case I would run away

anothernewphone · 22 March 2016, 09:37 AM

So this is fake, right?

lapince · 22 March 2016, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by anothernewphone

So this is fake, right?

Not sure, but would stay away, in best case it was serviced by god knows who, in worse case it is fake, hard to say just like this
Too bad i am leaving Paris in 2 days, if i had more time i would have gone, i will see tomorrow, if i have time i will go and tell you my impressions, ask them to see movement especially

PJ S · 22 March 2016, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by prwdmd

Most likely a fake. A dead giveaway is the lack of depth on the date window... notice how shallow the date dial is. Probably running on an ETA/Valjoux movement. On an authentic AP the date will be much more recessed. Also the font on the date looks off. Sub-dial spacing looks wrong. Lol...

I wonder would you be as confident if you put up a donation to charity, should you be wrong?

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Originally Posted by lapince

Not sure, but would stay away, in best case it was serviced by god knows who, in worse case it is fake, hard to say just like this
Too bad i am leaving Paris in 2 days, if i had more time i would have gone, i will see tomorrow, if i have time i will go and tell you my impressions, ask them to see movement especially

I wouldn’t bother, Arnaud.

lapince · 22 March 2016, 01:14 PM

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I wouldn’t bother, Arnaud.

Well was just saying Phil as it's my last day in Paris tomorrow and I have a ton of things to do will certainly not have the time, if I did would have gone just to check it out, even if I have no need to get one for me. The only 2 ROO I love except some LE like schumacher in ti which I find awesome, are my ce diver and

the 44mm in RG, but draws way toi much attention to my liking, my friend who is chief of police even wants me to be carrying a weapon at all times, not tol happy about this but he knows what he talks about, he is doing me the permit right now, so I definitely don't want to draw any attention on me... But damn that 44RG is sweet

oscardharmawan · 22 March 2016, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by prwdmd

Most likely a fake. A dead giveaway is the lack of depth on the date window... notice how shallow the date dial is. Probably running on an ETA/Valjoux movement. On an authentic AP the date will be much more recessed. Also the font on the date looks off. Sub-dial spacing looks wrong. Lol...

datewheel looks legit...

dial is 100% gen definitely.. rep dial window date doesnt have spacing to the tachy

screws area obviously wrong

Epwerkz · 22 March 2016, 01:20 PM

thats a fake AP ROO. usually the screws are not aligned

Johnnie Peh · 22 March 2016, 02:26 PM

Ya agree with gb man. Must ve been serviced by hublot

Hairdude1 · 22 March 2016, 02:29 PM

The screws!! My eyes

AK797 · 22 March 2016, 10:46 PM

I think it's real, just poorly worked on.

masterkiller · 23 March 2016, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

I think it's real, just poorly worked on.

That is also my feeling....

jrs146 · 23 March 2016, 03:40 AM

Even if it's authentic - maybe a good idea to stay away. Who knows what has been done inside. Too much risk for me!

gummy · 23 March 2016, 04:28 AM

Looks great - I think I'll do the same to my bezel screws!

21 March 2016, 11:54 PM	#1
masterkiller "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sweden Watch: Rolex, AP & PAM... Posts: 1,403	Beware, 'The Beast' on C24 I have been looking on c24 for a AP ROO 'the Beast' ie with the original blue dial... Saw this at a good price, looked nice at first glance on the mobile -then I spotted it, can you? http://www.chrono24.se/audemarspigue...-id4155377.htm Watch itself might be kosher but when you put an AP back like that you are not an official AP watchmaker.... __________________ Rolex - SubC... AP - Diver... Panerai - PAM380 Omega - Speedy PRO

22 March 2016, 02:29 PM	#25
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	The screws!! My eyes __________________ Instagram: @Hairdude Watches in Collection 5070R, 5522A, 214270 MK1, 228238 16750, 26401, 5711, 116718, 116710LN, 116300, 16710"Coke", 372, 15300, 15703 (All Flipped) Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas Int'l GTG 2018

23 March 2016, 03:40 AM	#28
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,823	Even if it's authentic - maybe a good idea to stay away. Who knows what has been done inside. Too much risk for me! __________________ "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own." -Jerome J. Garcia, Robert C. Hunter

21 March 2016, 11:56 PM	#2
911Cab Banned Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: USA Posts: 560	Bezel screws are not aligned. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

22 March 2016, 12:09 AM	#5
SamGMT "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Sam Location: Singapore Watch: Audemars Piguet Posts: 1,689	Omg!!

22 March 2016, 01:24 AM	#9
PJ S Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: UK Posts: 3,990	Negotiate it down to the right price that allows you to cover the cost of AP servicing it and making it properly ‘mint’ condition. I’d use €1300 as a ballpark figure.

22 March 2016, 01:37 AM	#10
csi-n "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Sam Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,042	That's a good one... Definitely assembled by someone who has no clue about APs. Sam

22 March 2016, 02:42 AM	#12
speedfighter "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 203	If Hublot serviced it then that will be good for the next 5 years no problem. Actually now that you mentioned it how come the distance between subdials is so messed up (I know the movement but still any other brand and that's a faux pas)? I would be more concerned with that then screws. Apart from that nice colour and overall shape-nice.

22 March 2016, 04:51 AM	#14
turillo "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Toronto Canada Watch: AP, Omega, Posts: 257	Nice watch, but I'd stay away from the one you posted.

22 March 2016, 05:39 AM	#15
prwdmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 50	Most likely a fake. A dead giveaway is the lack of depth on the date window... notice how shallow the date dial is. Probably running on an ETA/Valjoux movement. On an authentic AP the date will be much more recessed. Also the font on the date looks off. Sub-dial spacing looks wrong. Lol...

22 March 2016, 06:07 AM	#16
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Franck Muller crazy screws, roulette edition.

22 March 2016, 09:06 AM	#17
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	The seller is from where? He has box and papers? Maybe real but serviced by an idiot, in any case I would run away

22 March 2016, 09:37 AM	#18
anothernewphone Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Bill Location: Plymouth Meeting Watch: 116520 Posts: 3,209	So this is fake, right?

22 March 2016, 01:20 PM	#23
Epwerkz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: Felix Location: Jakarta Posts: 314	thats a fake AP ROO. usually the screws are not aligned

22 March 2016, 02:26 PM	#24
Johnnie Peh "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Singapore Watch: 44 SS 44 RG. Posts: 117	Ya agree with gb man. Must ve been serviced by hublot

22 March 2016, 10:46 PM	#26
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	I think it's real, just poorly worked on.

23 March 2016, 04:28 AM	#29
gummy 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Thomas Location: Midwest USA Watch: AP PP Rolex Posts: 3,354	Looks great - I think I'll do the same to my bezel screws!

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