My GMT Pepsi for a Seadweller?

[jg2525]

My local jeweler where I bought my 16710 a couple of years ago has a "P" serial sea dweller that I can make a trade on. Here is the story, the GMT was my first and only Rolex to date, and recently I have been wanting something more along the Sub line, and have liked the SD 16600 as well. The SD is in exc condition with full box and papers, which my GMT has as well. My GMT is a "Y" serial, and based on what I have seen here, this serial may be desirable based on the lug holes and SEL's, I would like opinions on that as well. Keeping one and buying the other is not really an option for me, so, comparing these two specific models and serials, is there any compelling reason to trade or not to trade based on your knowledge as far as one being desirable more than the other because of "fill in the blank"? And if the consensus is whatever I like best, that is fine as well. By the way, the trade is pretty close to even money. Thanks all...

[japenney]

Would never part with your 16710. Its value is only going up and its a 6 in 1 watch if you source coke and ln bezel and jubilee bracelet and nato and.....etc. grab a black bezel on eBay and it will look like a sub.

[Vinyasa]

That's a tough one. I have a Sea Dweller 4000 and a 'GMT', that is to say an Explorer II 16570. I value both. Guess it really depends on your priorities in terms of durability, complication and (possibly) wrist presence. Your GMT has all the complication and durability I would need... date, 100m water resistance, and GMT function; not to mention good looks and brushed bracelet. I purchased the SD4K for its engineering pedigree over the Submariner line and its 'most excellent' clean lines (no cyclops), and because I lover Rolex divers.

A long-winded way of saying, if it speaks to you do it. If in doubt, don't.

[JP Chestnut]

I have both references. I'd keep the GMT2 if I had to choose. It's infinitely more comfortable and versatile.

[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by japenney

Would never part with your 16710. Its value is only going up and its a 6 in 1 watch if you source coke and ln bezel and jubilee bracelet and nato and.....etc. grab a black bezel on eBay and it will look like a sub.

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[RinkRolex]

Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

I have both references. I'd keep the GMT2 if I had to choose. It's infinitely more comfortable and versatile.

[WAK4]

The SD is my favorite Rolex - whether ceramic or pre-ceramic.

But as pointed out, the 16710 is a "hot" watch and I am surprised how much the asking prices for them have gone up. I'd love to bring one back into the collection myself but refuse to pay the price it'd take.

Financially I think sticking to the 16710 is the better one to have. But on the flip side, I am usually one to make decisions on what I want to wear...it can be costly, but I'm not into watches to make money.

If you go for the SD, instead of a trade to a jeweler, sell the GMT privately. It'll go fast and I expect you'll have cash left over.

[JP Chestnut]

Originally Posted by WAK4

The SD is my favorite Rolex - whether ceramic or pre-ceramic.

But as pointed out, the 16710 is a "hot" watch and I am surprised how much the asking prices for them have gone up. I'd love to bring one back into the collection myself but refuse to pay the price it'd take.

Financially I think sticking to the 16710 is the better one to have. But on the flip side, I am usually one to make decisions on what I want to wear...it can be costly, but I'm not into watches to make money.

If you go for the SD, instead of a trade to a jeweler, sell the GMT privately. It'll go fast and I expect you'll have cash left over.

My gmt2 was the cheap alternative to a sub when I bought it. I'd never pay what people ask now.

[Stuxnet]

The GMT is a practical and versatile watch. I've taken mine 160 feet down. The 24 hr hand and bezel are very useful and something I value when traveling. It is sporty and an iconic watch. Everybody knows it's a GMT.

The Seadweller is a great professional tool watch. I considered getting one but nice I have 2 Subs I thought it was overkill especially since I opted for a career path that meant little or no saturation diving.

You may never be a pilot but the GMT will be as useful to non pilots as well. The SD is also a little heavier and sits higher on the wrist. Also, people may say "hey, nice Sub" and that may annoy you. Keep the GMT.

[rkot07]

No Deal. Would never get rid of my 16710. From what I see people are trying to get their hands on the 16710. It's a great watch.


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[mtgjr]

I just sold my 16600 and bought a 16710. I wouldn't do what you're proposing (obviously), but you should net about a grand should you decide to do it.

[CDNWatchNut]

I wouldn't do it either.

[Seaward]

No.

[JimSnyder]

It comes down to what "you" really want. Me, I would stay with the GMT.

[MCO1]

I couldn't let my GMT go for any Rolex. Like someone said, with a black bezel the look is close. However, if the SD is calling loudly enough us WIS's cannot hardly resist the call. If patience is a virtue you possess(mine is minimal), start putting the cash away and pick a Rolex diver up down the road without sacrificing the GMT.

[sickened1]

Another vote for keeping the GMT.

[subtona]

Both are excellent.

I prefer the slimmer gmt over the SD. Though the SD may be one of the most bad ass watches made, I find the SD to fit sloppy and unnecessarily bulky.

As said above the Pepsi GMT has been doing well on resale, there is no current SS Pepsi available, unlike the SD.

[Alexwwjd]

Don't do it please. Believe me, you will regret it.


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[watchdawg]

Keep the GMT

[Speed]

I too would keep the Pepsi. Maybe put a Coke Insert on it to breathe some new life into it. It will like having a new watch - with a tiny fraction of the expense!

[jg2525]

Wow, thanks for all of the responses. The overwhelming majority says stay with my GMT, I really appreciate your comments. Answer me this, what is the attraction of my model GMT(Y) as it relates to the lug holes and solid end links?? When I bought it I had no idea, and apparently still do not.

[JP Chestnut]

Lug holes make changing bracelets easy. The SELs make for a tight bracelet/case fit.

[japenney]

Originally Posted by jg2525

Wow, thanks for all of the responses. The overwhelming majority says stay with my GMT, I really appreciate your comments. Answer me this, what is the attraction of my model GMT(Y) as it relates to the lug holes and solid end links?? When I bought it I had no idea, and apparently still do not.

Solid end links are of better construction. The lug holes make for simple strap changes without a soohisticated tool. This particular model benefits greatly from strap changes.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by jg2525

Wow, thanks for all of the responses. The overwhelming majority says stay with my GMT, I really appreciate your comments. Answer me this, what is the attraction of my model GMT(Y) as it relates to the lug holes and solid end links?? When I bought it I had no idea, and apparently still do not.

The lug holes are just user friendly and one of the greatest trails of the tool watch imho.

The sel are permanently attached to the bracelet, so when you take it off you don't have to separately mind the end links. That said I kind of favor the old removable end links but either way is no big deal.


Ps the gmt offers several options for the bezel insert which is cool.

[JohnFM]

You ask an interesting question. I've been interested in Rolex watches for five years or so. At the time, the 16710 was relatively inexpensive and under the radar and the 16600 was a 'hotter' watch, along with the 16610LV, at least on our beloved forums. I currently own a 16600 and love it, and while it is still a desirable watch that will only go up in value, the 16710 has gone from being somewhat under-appreciated to VERY desirable ... and fairly expensive for what it is technically.

The beauty of the 16710 is that it's functional/useful, fun but not flashy or blingy, and ... comfortable. I just spoke with someone today who wore a 11610LV for a year and just went back to his 16710. Why? Because the 16710 is so easy to wear and comfortable. You will miss this comfort with the 16600 to some degree. Not that the 16600 is uncomfortable. I think it's one of the best Rolex watches ever made -- an absolute classic and appealing to me due to its lack of cyclops, no nonsense good looks and toughness, and dial/face which is slightly smaller than a 16610 Sub but with more aggressive bezel serrations.

The other key thing is -- you know the history of your 16710. You made the scratches. The 16600 may look great but who knows what its been through or how many times it has been serviced or polished. Unless you don't love your 16710, I'd keep it. Buy a 16600 or other watch when the time is right and the funds are available.

All of that said, I will give you one argument for selling the 16710 ;-) It is very highly valued at this moment. The future is uncertain. While it is extremely unlikely it will decline in value, it has popped so much in such a short time that I wonder if it can sustain its current mystique. Everyone is convinced Rolex won't introduce a stainless Pepsi or Coke GMT but we've all been fooled before. If this happens, your 16710 will be still be wonderful but it won't be the only stainless GMT on the block.

[Cabaiguan]

No way.

[jg2525]

Good points JohnFM....looks like I need to see what this GMT is worth!! My jeweler contacted me about this deal, so maybe he is hoping that I don't know what I have!! I am most definitely going to step back and assess the situation, as I got in to this Pepsi for a reasonable amount two years ago.

[Viv Savage]

I would keep the GMT. Much more versatile as others have mentioned.