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Old 22 June 2016, 06:40 PM   #1
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5512 / 5513

Hi folks, i have just entered the fascinnating world of vintage, which i am finding is fueling my OCD bug very nicely.... and found me with 2 'new' watches.

I won't lie, I am looking to start researching an early sub. I don't really know where to start, or what to read to bring me up the curve, so if there is a 'Sub 101 for 5512/13 overview for dummies', then please let me know. I found many great resources on the GMT on here, which cost me a lovely 1675 already, and my observation of a friends 5500 '58 Exporer has me with super clean 1016!

Early thoughts are to find a metres first 4 liner 5512 ... maybe eveyone's holy grail? but there you have it. Any thoughts / help at this time would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your help in advance.
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Old 22 June 2016, 08:22 PM   #2
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For me the holy grail sub would be either a 5508 or a marine national tudor sub.
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Old 22 June 2016, 08:30 PM   #3
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Well I don't think you can go wrong with a 5512. The devil is in the details. From an investment/collectibility standpoint buy the best you can afford and originality is key!! And remember the fakes are VERY good, so do your homework, buy the seller and enjoy yourself!!


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Old 22 June 2016, 08:48 PM   #4
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Go to our vintage sections, there are great reference tools there including this one: http://www.5513mattedial.com/

I personally prefer the clean look of the 5513 dial.
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Old 22 June 2016, 10:20 PM   #5
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That is a beauty. I must say say the two lines is very easy on the eye. My 16610 has four so maybe the 5513 is the one to consider. Decisions decisions!!!
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Old 23 June 2016, 01:00 AM   #6
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2 lines are nice...

But it's hard to go wrong with a 4 liner confirming COSC and the accompanying 1530 or 1560 free sprung
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image.jpgA little beat up and needing a mk3 FF insert which I'll have shortly... I still love mine and is so far my favorite piece out of all the Rolex I've owned.
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I just noticed in the pic I posted it looks like a huge chunk is missing near 50 but that's just the glare
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I just noticed in the pic I posted it looks like a huge chunk is missing near 50 but that's just the glare
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Hi folks, i have just entered the fascinnating world of vintage, which i am finding is fueling my OCD bug very nicely.... and found me with 2 'new' watches.

I won't lie, I am looking to start researching an early sub. I don't really know where to start, or what to read to bring me up the curve, so if there is a 'Sub 101 for 5512/13 overview for dummies', then please let me know. I found many great resources on the GMT on here, which cost me a lovely 1675 already, and my observation of a friends 5500 '58 Exporer has me with super clean 1016!

Early thoughts are to find a metres first 4 liner 5512 ... maybe eveyone's holy grail? but there you have it. Any thoughts / help at this time would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your help in advance.
Well, the 5512 is the top-of-the-line no-date Submariner, with the COSC. You'll certainly pay more for it than a 5513. If you're after a gilt-dial version, get your checkbook out. If you're OK with a matte-dial version, it might be more affordable. (As a 5512 owner, I vote for that one, of course.)

As for a meters-first dial ... I write this almost every time someone posts that they want a meters-first dial: Why is that detail important? What does it matter? I would never pay a premium for a meters-first dial over a feet-first dial if all other condition factors were the same. I'm originally from the UK, so having the meters first on a dial isn't special for me at all. It's irrelevant, IMHO. Also, keep in mind that there are actually fewer feet-first 5512s than meters-first, assuming that Rolex made roughly the same amount of 5512s each year. Either way, good luck in your search.
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Old 23 June 2016, 03:47 AM   #11
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Aaron, and others thanks a million here, and congrats on that absolute stunner! Ok, there it is.. Matte, feet first 5512 is now a strong possibility.

Learning so much it's amazing!

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