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Old 14 July 2016, 10:34 AM   #1
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Possible water ingress into case

I just washed my hands with the crown of my 1680 sub pulled completely out. I don't think anything got in there, but should I do anything now to be on safe side??


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Old 14 July 2016, 10:40 AM   #2
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If you want to be safe, get a bag of white rice (ziplock) and with the entire crown and stem removed, put it into the bag of rice, crown side down to allow any water or moisture to exit out the hole. The rice will absorb any humidity.

Dont panic, I think you will be ok.
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Old 14 July 2016, 10:50 AM   #3
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I don't know about removing the crown and stem since that means opening the entire case and a lot of work. But the rice has worked for some with it unscrewed.


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Old 14 July 2016, 10:53 AM   #4
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I don't know about removing the crown and stem since that means opening the entire case and a lot of work. But the rice has worked for some with it unscrewed.


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Removing a case back, maybe 15 seconds. Removing the crown/stem...maybe ten seconds. Very simple my friend. (The movement does not have to be removed to remove the crown/stem.)

Robby, do you you have a case back tool?
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Old 14 July 2016, 11:08 AM   #5
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Possible water ingress into case

Thanks all.

Jp I have a crappy old propeller caseback wrench, but it's at office (I've already tried in past getting it off with balled up tape trick, no dice).

In a pinch, would pulling the crown back out and putting it in rice provide any benefit? Any other suggestions?


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Old 14 July 2016, 11:42 AM   #6
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Thanks all.

Jp I have a crappy old propeller caseback wrench, but it's at office (I've already tried in past getting it off with balled up tape trick, no dice).

In a pinch, would pulling the crown back out and putting it in rice provide any benefit? Any other suggestions?


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Yes, it would. I don't think removing the crown and stem would be necessary. Just pulling the crown out to time setting position, 2nd click, would give enough "breathing room" in the sealed bag for the rice to pull out any moisture that may have gotten trapped inside.
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Old 14 July 2016, 11:51 AM   #7
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Doubt anything got in. Isn't there gaskets to prevent that even if crown open?
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Old 14 July 2016, 12:11 PM   #8
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Doubt anything got in. Isn't there gaskets to prevent that even if crown open?
Yes, small o-rings inside the tube, but they wear out.
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Old 14 July 2016, 01:21 PM   #9
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The watch is certified to be water resistant to a reduced depth (can't remember the exact number) with the crown unscrewed and in the winding position, but I don't know whether the watch is water resistant at all with the crown pulled completely out to the time-setting position.

I recall reading somewhere, perhaps even on this forum, that the MOD specification for the diving watch that the Milsub was built to required water resistance with the crown unscrewed to. . .50m, or perhaps 50ft?

In any case, I hope this information may be at least one helpful piece of the puzzle that you can use.
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Thanks again all. Springer it's reassuring to hear there are fail safes even if crown is fully open. Those gaskets were replaced a year or so ago so hopefully they're good. Out of an abundance of caution, it's resting in a bed of rice with the crown open overnight.


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Old 14 July 2016, 03:21 PM   #11
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I wouldn't worry about it. Unless you really thoroughly washed your watch with the crown in setting position.
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The stem seals on the Triplock operate at all positions of the stem.

The Triplock crown is rated to 500 Bar open or closed and this was featured on the Rolex web site many years ago.

The finger tight crown seals would make very little difference to withstanding the pressure at (for example) the DSSD's rated depth.
The crown seals are there to prevent the ingress of dirt and dust.

Splashing water on your Triplock with the crown unscrewed is not an issue considering they were replaced 2 years ago?

In any event, as the pressure inside and outside a Rolex case is the same at atmospheric pressure, I doubt if any moisture could be removed by opening the crown in a bed of rice.

If water ever gets inside a Rolex, removing the case back on the way to a watchmaker would be the best solution.
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I just washed my hands with the crown of my 1680 sub pulled completely out. I don't think anything got in there, but should I do anything now to be on safe side??


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Your fine Robbie as long as the seals are good. It is just as waterproof with the crown open, although I don't recommend diving with the crown open of course regards


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Old 15 July 2016, 02:27 AM   #14
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Thanks guys for all the suggestions and reassurance. As of this morning, all seems to be well and, from what you guys have explained about the trip lock crown system, I'm pretty sure I'm good.


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doubt its 500 bar ,,,, 5 maybe
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doubt its 500 bar ,,,, 5 maybe
this seems to comport with what I seem to remember reading -- 5 bar would be roughly 150 feet, or roughly 50m, which is roughly 1/4 of the 200m/660 feet 5513s (including milsubs) are rated to.
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How does that even happen


It was completely my fault, being absent-minded. I took off the watch and pulled out the crown to hack the second hand for a pic, then got distracted doing something else and left watch on my desk, then put watch back on my wrist later. Then I washed my hands. I only noticed it later when I looked at the time and noticed it was a few hours behind.


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Thanks again all. Springer it's reassuring to hear there are fail safes even if crown is fully open. Those gaskets were replaced a year or so ago so hopefully they're good. Out of an abundance of caution, it's resting in a bed of rice with the crown open overnight.


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Well, that's likely a waste of time.. The seals are inside the watch and seal whether the crown is pulled or not. The gasket in the crown is redundant; many waterproof watches do not have a screw-down feature. (like the pushers on a Daytona, which is still waterproof)

The rice can only absorb water that can get to it. Since nothing can get outside of the watch through the seals, it won't do much good.

If water did get inside, you need to have it taken apart, cleaned off and oiled; not simply aired-out.
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