"running in"

[ronintt]

Have just got my first Rolex.
have always put a new watch in the winder when not wearing it (cant sleep with a watch on).
Have read a few variations on here as to running the watch in.
AD said daily wear and winder at night would be fine, but have seen other suggestions such as putting it in the box face up for the first month.
Any thoughts?

Would also like the TPM for a Rolex (GMT II C) and is it clockwise or anti?


Thanks in advance

[Andad]

If it's a daily wearer then I would not bother with the winder at night.

If you are not wearing it then a winder running at about 800 TPD (either direction) would be fine. A winder that runs for 10 min & rests for 20min in each half hour would be good.

Nice choice - welcome to the club.

If you are particular about accuracy then monitor the gain/loss over the first month of regular wearing from new and then you can check to see if face up/crown up/down/side etc. varies the accuracy. IMO the parachrom 3186 movement in the GMT II SSc will not vary very much with position (my doesn't) but each Rolex will respond in a different way depending on initial factory adjustment.

[ronintt]

Originally Posted by directioneng

If it's a daily wearer then I would not bother with the winder at night.

If you are not wearing it then a winder running at about 800 TPD (either direction) would be fine. A winder that runs for 10 min & rests for 20min in each half hour would be good.

Nice choice - welcome to the club.

If you are particular about accuracy then monitor the gain/loss over the first month of regular wearing from new and then you can check to see if face up/crown up/down/side etc. varies the accuracy. IMO the parachrom 3186 movement in the GMT II SSc will not vary very much with position (my doesn't) but each Rolex will respond in a different way depending on initial factory adjustment.

Thanks, its an M serial, does that make it a 3187?

[what3ver]

Originally Posted by ronintt

Thanks, its an M serial, does that make it a 3187?

No, they don't change the movement numbers based on serial number changes. The current movement for the GMT IIc is the 3186.

[mike]

Originally Posted by directioneng

If it's a daily wearer then I would not bother with the winder at night.

If you are not wearing it then a winder running at about 800 TPD (either direction) would be fine. A winder that runs for 10 min & rests for 20min in each half hour would be good.

Nice choice - welcome to the club.

If you are particular about accuracy then monitor the gain/loss over the first month of regular wearing from new and then you can check to see if face up/crown up/down/side etc. varies the accuracy. IMO the parachrom 3186 movement in the GMT II SSc will not vary very much with position (my doesn't) but each Rolex will respond in a different way depending on initial factory adjustment.

[n9zez]

Welcome to the Club.

Do whatever you want with the watch. Either way, it will keep time.

Mine sleeps in its winder.

[Trurolexer]

Originally Posted by what3ver

No, they don't change the movement numbers based on serial number changes. The current movement for the GMT IIc is the 3186.

[pwrslider]

Originally Posted by n9zez

Welcome to the Club.

Do whatever you want with the watch. Either way, it will keep time.

Mine sleeps in its winder.

X2!

[BigHat]

Actually the Orbita database suggests 650 TPM for Rolex autos. Their suggestion for the Daytona is for the Zenith El Primero movement.

http://www.orbita.net/pages/17118.htm

Should a watch not be covered or yours isn't staying wound these steps are suggested:

Orbita cannot guarantee that this database is perfect as we cannot test every watch. We are only as good as the information that we receive directly from manufacturers or their distributors, from our customers, or through our research. If you cannot find a listing, we suggest that you try the following method to determine your watch winding settings:

1) Place your fully wound automatic watch on your winder (wind by hand).

2) Set your winder to bi-directional winding at 950 TPD.

If this setting doesn't keep your watch wound, go to step 3.

If this setting keeps your watch wound, decrease TPD to the lowest setting that still keeps your watch wound.

3) Set your winder to clockwise winding at 950 TPD.

If this setting doesn't keep your watch wound, go to step 4.

If this setting keeps your watch wound, decrease TPD to the lowest setting that still keeps your watch wound.

4) Set your winder to counter-clockwise (anti-clockwise) winding at 950 TPD.

If this setting doesn't keep your watch wound, please contact the manufacturer or call us at 910-256-5300.

If this setting keeps your watch wound, decrease TPD to the lowest setting that still keeps your watch wound.

Please note: Most watches that wind bi-directionally will be able to wind at all rotational settings: Both, CW, CCW. Watches that wind uni-directionally will only be able to wind in one direction, either CW or CCW.

[Tools]

Great watch..

There is no magic surrounding your time-piece - really - it is just a watch. I have never heard of "resting it in the box face up for the first month" before.. I will bet that there are some who rest theirs in the box at night all the time...

I agree with those that say that if you wear it daily, you don't need a winder at night.. But I also agree with your Dealer....it certainly won't destroy it.

I do think that if you wear it daily and winder it at night you should have the winder on it's absolute minimum setting......There is just no sense on spinning the rotor for no good reason..

Welcome to the wonderful world of Rolex......

[SLS]

I no longer use winders with any watch in my collection. My reasoning is very simple, winders are meant to simulate wear on the wrist, if I have 4 watches, and three are spinning away on a winder, I am creating unnecesaary wear on 3 of the movements. Short term, no big deal, but in the long term say 25 years, I am going to have 4 watches that have 25 years worth of wear on the movement, as opposed to having 4 watches that were equally rotated. I say this after having a several vintage pieces serviced that had to have reversers & jewels replaced, let me tell you it gets expensive. Winders are conveinent but are a waste of money that I could be spending on another wacth. JMHO =)
~Scott

[padi56]

Originally Posted by ronintt

Have just got my first Rolex.
have always put a new watch in the winder when not wearing it (cant sleep with a watch on).
Have read a few variations on here as to running the watch in.
AD said daily wear and winder at night would be fine, but have seen other suggestions such as putting it in the box face up for the first month.
Any thoughts?

Would also like the TPM for a Rolex (GMT II C) and is it clockwise or anti?

Thanks in advance

Any winder will be fine for your Rolex they wind both ways

Originally Posted by SLS

I no longer use winders with any watch in my collection. My reasoning is very simple, winders are meant to simulate wear on the wrist, if I have 4 watches, and three are spinning away on a winder, I am creating unnecesaary wear on 3 of the movements. Short term, no big deal, but in the long term say 25 years, I am going to have 4 watches that have 25 years worth of wear on the movement, as opposed to having 4 watches that were equally rotated. I say this after having a several vintage pieces serviced that had to have reversers & jewels replaced, let me tell you it gets expensive. Winders are conveinent but are a waste of money that I could be spending on another wacth. JMHO =)
~Scott

Could not agree more watch winders are not needed with watches with just a simple date complication.It will do no harm whatsoever to let it stop rewind and to reset takes all of 30 seconds.And no you will not wear out the threads or winding crown,its a Rolex built to last for decades.

[Sam Taha]

I'm not sure I buy in to this whole "running in" thing with watches. Some say to wait two months before the watch becomes accurate, but don't forget that the movement has already been certified by COSC before it even got shipped to your dealer, so it should already be accurate!

[mike]

Originally Posted by Sam Taha

I'm not sure I buy in to this whole "running in" thing with watches. Some say to wait two months before the watch becomes accurate, but don't forget that the movement has already been certified by COSC before it even got shipped to your dealer, so it should already be accurate!

While any COSC has certainly been tested, how the watch may perform on your wrist can be a lot different. I've had several regulated that were outside specs based on how I wear the watch.

COSC is as much marketing as anything else. Any good movement can be set to specs.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by BigHat

Actually the Orbita database suggests 650 TPM for Rolex autos. Their suggestion for the Daytona is for the Zenith El Primero movement.

http://www.orbita.net/pages/17118.htm

Should a watch not be covered or yours isn't staying wound these steps are suggested:

Orbita cannot guarantee that this database is perfect as we cannot test every watch. We are only as good as the information that we receive directly from manufacturers or their distributors, from our customers, or through our research. If you cannot find a listing, we suggest that you try the following method to determine your watch winding settings:

1) Place your fully wound automatic watch on your winder (wind by hand).

2) Set your winder to bi-directional winding at 950 TPD.

If this setting doesn't keep your watch wound, go to step 3.

If this setting keeps your watch wound, decrease TPD to the lowest setting that still keeps your watch wound.

3) Set your winder to clockwise winding at 950 TPD.

If this setting doesn't keep your watch wound, go to step 4.

If this setting keeps your watch wound, decrease TPD to the lowest setting that still keeps your watch wound.

4) Set your winder to counter-clockwise (anti-clockwise) winding at 950 TPD.

If this setting doesn't keep your watch wound, please contact the manufacturer or call us at 910-256-5300.

If this setting keeps your watch wound, decrease TPD to the lowest setting that still keeps your watch wound.

Please note: Most watches that wind bi-directionally will be able to wind at all rotational settings: Both, CW, CCW. Watches that wind uni-directionally will only be able to wind in one direction, either CW or CCW.

Sorry Matt, I can't find 650 rpm anywhere.

[Z-Sub]

Originally Posted by SLS

I no longer use winders with any watch in my collection. My reasoning is very simple, winders are meant to simulate wear on the wrist, if I have 4 watches, and three are spinning away on a winder, I am creating unnecesaary wear on 3 of the movements. Short term, no big deal, but in the long term say 25 years, I am going to have 4 watches that have 25 years worth of wear on the movement, as opposed to having 4 watches that were equally rotated. I say this after having a several vintage pieces serviced that had to have reversers & jewels replaced, let me tell you it gets expensive. Winders are conveinent but are a waste of money that I could be spending on another wacth. JMHO =)
~Scott

Even though I'm fairly new to Rolex, I've owned mechanical watches before as well.
Winders don't do anything to me. You don't need winders for overnight since that is unnecessary wear to the winder.
Your watch has about 2 days of power reserve if you've worn it for a full day. It will not stop in the middle of the night. When it does, a service overhaul is due.
Winder is for those who don't like to be bothered by adjusting and resetting watch from time to time.
It's not and issue for me.