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pamy104 · 17 August 2016, 11:53 AM

Hello,

Wanted some opinions. Would you guys trade a less than year old 15710 diver and less than 6 month old VC Overseas Limited edition Chrono straight up for an AP Royal Oak Tribute to Italy chrono?

A bit torn here....

Thanks for the input!

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chuey38 · 17 August 2016, 12:10 PM

Haven't seen it in the metal but the Italy looks a fantastic piece to me it looks like a oak offshore crossover.

Both of those are obv great pieces - are they not getting wrist time and aren't they worth more than the RO you are considering for the trade?

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GB-man · 17 August 2016, 12:40 PM

I wouldn't but the trade value sounds about as expected. The VC is very similar to the tribute to Italy. Not bonding with the VC?

I'll admit I dig the dial on the tribute to Italy but I think you're giving up two great pieces to get there and I don't love it enough to do so

DCheeta · 17 August 2016, 01:44 PM

I love the Tribute to Italy, in fact it's my favorite ROC, but I would keep the Diver and the VC. I like variety, and the Diver and the Overseas are both awesome watches.

improviz · 17 August 2016, 01:52 PM

I would not do the trade.

Hairdude1 · 17 August 2016, 02:11 PM

No

Tomas Eriksson · 17 August 2016, 02:18 PM

The 26326ST is a fantastic piece! Is it new? I would do the trade but you should walk away with a little cash in your pocket even if it's brand new. Negotiate or otherwise sell your pieces for cash and buy the piece.

mickyd329 · 17 August 2016, 03:28 PM

Trade valuation looks about right. I personally wouldn't do it. I love the Tribute to Italy, but not worth trading in what you have for it.

bayerische · 17 August 2016, 05:48 PM

Are you Italian? If not I don't see the lure, and AP's limited edition seldom do well in keeping their worth.

pamy104 · 17 August 2016, 08:06 PM

Thanks for the feedback. I had similar thoughts. Love the look of that AP but feel like I am giving up a lot for it. Not Italian just like the look of the watch.

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AK797 · 17 August 2016, 10:13 PM

I would, love the Italy.

masterserg · 17 August 2016, 10:25 PM

I would do it. I love the tribute to Italy. You are sort of giving the beautiful VC away, but such is life.

You would have to source a bracelet also to be in grail territory, as the OP in the thread below says:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...+tribute+italy

and more info here:

http://www.watchcollectinglifestyle....imited-edition

youthagainsttt · 17 August 2016, 10:39 PM

Having just Googled the tribute to italy ROO, I'd trade it

I'm a fan of the Overseas, but not of the overseas chrono. And other posters are right, this is one of the best looking offshores i've seen

Jfbhd4 · 17 August 2016, 10:40 PM

I'd do it.

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Manofsteelpt · 18 August 2016, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by youthagainsttt

Having just Googled the tribute to italy ROO, I'd trade it

I'm a fan of the Overseas, but not of the overseas chrono. And other posters are right, this is one of the best looking offshores i've seen

Just for the record, it's not an Offshore.

OP, I love the watch too, but you're not getting a good deal trade value wise for your pieces. The RO doesn't seem to sell well and can be had for close to 20k from what I've seen. Your 2 are pieces clearly worth much more than that.

GB-man · 18 August 2016, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Manofsteelpt

Just for the record, it's not an Offshore.

OP, I love the watch too, but you're not getting a good deal trade value wise for your pieces. The RO doesn't seem to sell well and can be had for close to 20k from what I've seen. Your 2 are pieces clearly worth much more than that.

I think the problem is that nobody is going to give you anywhere near market value on a VC because they take forever to move.

Good luck convincing people on here they need an overseas on strap preowned for the price of a bnib Royal oak on bracelet or a lnib AP diver etc

anothernewphone · 18 August 2016, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

I think the problem is that nobody is going to give you anywhere near market value on a VC because they take forever to move.

"Market value" is what someone will pay you for it. If people don't pay your asking price, then you're above market value.

jrs146 · 18 August 2016, 12:59 AM

The ROC Italy is just stunning. Add a bracelet and it's over the moon.

BUT - anytime trading 2:1 I generally say no. Just too much to regret.

AK797 · 18 August 2016, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by masterserg

I would do it. I love the tribute to Italy. You are sort of giving the beautiful VC away, but such is life.

You would have to source a bracelet also to be in grail territory, as the OP in the thread below says:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...+tribute+italy

and more info here:

http://www.watchcollectinglifestyle....imited-edition

Yes, I should add I'd have to get it on the bracelet even if it costs a fair bit more.

PJ S · 18 August 2016, 04:41 AM

AP 26326 – compare that to the asking price of your trade.
Remember, you’ll be expecting most of those in the EU to be sold without included VAT, so divide by 1.2 – if new, not pre-owned.

For me, I’d sell the 15710 and just put the extra towards the pre-owned one from Pacific.

PJ S · 18 August 2016, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by youthagainsttt

Having just Googled the tribute to italy ROO, I'd trade it

I'm a fan of the Overseas, but not of the overseas chrono. And other posters are right, this is one of the best looking offshores i've seen

It’s not an Offshore, it’s just a ROC.

shafran · 20 August 2016, 08:19 AM

Its not just a roc. THe royal oak chronos sell for more than the offshore chronos. I happen to love the italy and would trade my diver for it, but I dont have a second watch to add. The 41mm roc chronos are beautiful, wear like a slightly larger daytona, much thinner than a roo, but similar size. Much less water resistance.

improviz · 20 August 2016, 10:37 AM

MSRP of the ROOs start at $26K, ROCs are $24.3K, at least according to Swissluxury.com.

Jfbhd4 · 20 August 2016, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jfbhd4

I'd do it.

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Sell whatever you have to in order to acquire this piece on bracelet.

Kids, cars, watches etc.

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17 August 2016, 11:53 AM	#1
pamy104 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Greater Nashville Posts: 323	Audemars 15710 & Vacheron Overseas Chronograph LE Trade Hello, Wanted some opinions. Would you guys trade a less than year old 15710 diver and less than 6 month old VC Overseas Limited edition Chrono straight up for an AP Royal Oak Tribute to Italy chrono? A bit torn here.... Thanks for the input! Sent from my STV100-2 using Tapatalk

17 August 2016, 01:52 PM	#5
improviz "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tejas Watch: your step Posts: 2,806	I would not do the trade. __________________ 116520 white; 16613 black; 116710; 16570 polar; 16600. AP 15400; 15703. Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. Glashutte Sport Evo GMT. Omega Planet Ocean 2907.50.91; Planet Ocean Liquidmetal LE 222.30.42.20.01.001; Seamaster 2255.80.00. Breitling Crosswind, white. Panerai PAM 005. VC Overseas Chrono, black.

17 August 2016, 02:11 PM	#6
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	No __________________ Instagram: @Hairdude Watches in Collection 5070R, 5522A, 214270 MK1, 228238 16750, 26401, 5711, 116718, 116710LN, 116300, 16710"Coke", 372, 15300, 15703 (All Flipped) Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas Int'l GTG 2018

17 August 2016, 02:18 PM	#7
Tomas Eriksson "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Stockholm Watch: 15707CE Posts: 2,033	The 26326ST is a fantastic piece! Is it new? I would do the trade but you should walk away with a little cash in your pocket even if it's brand new. Negotiate or otherwise sell your pieces for cash and buy the piece. __________________ State of the union: 5066A,15400ST,15707CE,116610LN,26470OR and a few other…

17 August 2016, 05:48 PM	#9
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Are you Italian? If not I don't see the lure, and AP's limited edition seldom do well in keeping their worth. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

17 August 2016, 12:10 PM	#2
chuey38 Banned Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: UK Watch: 15202 Posts: 184	Haven't seen it in the metal but the Italy looks a fantastic piece to me it looks like a oak offshore crossover. Both of those are obv great pieces - are they not getting wrist time and aren't they worth more than the RO you are considering for the trade? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

17 August 2016, 12:40 PM	#3
GB-man 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,592	I wouldn't but the trade value sounds about as expected. The VC is very similar to the tribute to Italy. Not bonding with the VC? I'll admit I dig the dial on the tribute to Italy but I think you're giving up two great pieces to get there and I don't love it enough to do so

17 August 2016, 01:44 PM	#4
DCheeta "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: NYC Posts: 7,184	I love the Tribute to Italy, in fact it's my favorite ROC, but I would keep the Diver and the VC. I like variety, and the Diver and the Overseas are both awesome watches.

17 August 2016, 03:28 PM	#8
mickyd329 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Socal Watch: AP/PP/Rolex Posts: 2,111	Trade valuation looks about right. I personally wouldn't do it. I love the Tribute to Italy, but not worth trading in what you have for it.

17 August 2016, 08:06 PM	#10
pamy104 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Greater Nashville Posts: 323	Thanks for the feedback. I had similar thoughts. Love the look of that AP but feel like I am giving up a lot for it. Not Italian just like the look of the watch. Sent from my STV100-2 using Tapatalk

17 August 2016, 10:13 PM	#11
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	I would, love the Italy.

17 August 2016, 10:25 PM	#12
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	I would do it. I love the tribute to Italy. You are sort of giving the beautiful VC away, but such is life. You would have to source a bracelet also to be in grail territory, as the OP in the thread below says: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...+tribute+italy and more info here: http://www.watchcollectinglifestyle....imited-edition __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

17 August 2016, 10:39 PM	#13
youthagainsttt "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: HK Watch: Piaget,Rolex,AP,HB Posts: 1,040	Having just Googled the tribute to italy ROO, I'd trade it I'm a fan of the Overseas, but not of the overseas chrono. And other posters are right, this is one of the best looking offshores i've seen

17 August 2016, 10:40 PM	#14
Jfbhd4 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: St louis Posts: 347	I'd do it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

18 August 2016, 12:59 AM	#18
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,823	The ROC Italy is just stunning. Add a bracelet and it's over the moon. BUT - anytime trading 2:1 I generally say no. Just too much to regret. __________________ "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own." -Jerome J. Garcia, Robert C. Hunter

18 August 2016, 04:41 AM	#20
PJ S Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: UK Posts: 3,990	AP 26326 – compare that to the asking price of your trade. Remember, you’ll be expecting most of those in the EU to be sold without included VAT, so divide by 1.2 – if new, not pre-owned. For me, I’d sell the 15710 and just put the extra towards the pre-owned one from Pacific.

20 August 2016, 08:19 AM	#22
shafran "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: woodmere,ny Posts: 586	trade Its not just a roc. THe royal oak chronos sell for more than the offshore chronos. I happen to love the italy and would trade my diver for it, but I dont have a second watch to add. The 41mm roc chronos are beautiful, wear like a slightly larger daytona, much thinner than a roo, but similar size. Much less water resistance.

20 August 2016, 10:37 AM	#23
improviz "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tejas Watch: your step Posts: 2,806	MSRP of the ROOs start at $26K, ROCs are $24.3K, at least according to Swissluxury.com. __________________ 116520 white; 16613 black; 116710; 16570 polar; 16600. AP 15400; 15703. Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. Glashutte Sport Evo GMT. Omega Planet Ocean 2907.50.91; Planet Ocean Liquidmetal LE 222.30.42.20.01.001; Seamaster 2255.80.00. Breitling Crosswind, white. Panerai PAM 005. VC Overseas Chrono, black.

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