How far would you go to get your watch mint again?

[Ouro9999]

Hi,

I have bought a Tudor day date 94500 last weekend. The watch was not in good shape, but it was complete set.

I have opened a thread to ask opinions on a case repair.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=498385

Contacted few companies about the repair, and decided (at that moment) i would send the case to ABC Watchwerks.

Anyway, i have decided to take the watch to Rolex to get an estimate on the other services the watch needed, (a complete overhaul, including new crown, glass, and everything else to become new againg, except the dial) altough the watch was runing perfectly, the watch was not in good shape. And a Rolex overhaul would get the watch back as new, but still the case had an issue.

But Rolex offered me a new case, and a full overhaul for USD 1780.00, and i did approved the service.

The total cost will be 2470.00 USD. (purchase, rolex overhaul, newcase)

If the case was fixed, i guess i would be spending 1900.00 USD. (purchase, rolex overhaul, case fix)

So was that i wise thing? or have i spent to much on a watch that is not a Rolex?

Thanks for your opinion!

[Ouro9999]

One more thing, the case can take up to 120 days to arrive...

[andromeda160]

Spent too much money, I thought you sourced a case off of ebay which could have been done for a few hundred. Now you have taken any desirability(original case with papers) and made it look new. To put things in perspective you probably could have bought a brand new tudor day date for less or just bought a perfect original one to begin with.

[Chewbacca]

me -- not that far... not for that watch.

if the watch is of value to you, then do it i suppose.

[Ouro9999]

Originally Posted by andromeda160

Spent too much money, I thought you sourced a case off of ebay which could have been done for a few hundred. Now you have taken any desirability(original case with papers) and made it look new. To put things in perspective you probably could have bought a brand new tudor day date for less or just bought a perfect original one to begin with.

Thanks for your opinion, but if i get the case from ebay, i would not have the matching papers anyway. And the case is not a easy find (could not find one to check the price, and compare to Rolex). Its a 35mm case.

And Rolex will issue new docs for the watch, as iam buying from them.

[uansari1]

Originally Posted by Ouro9999

Thanks for your opinion, but if i get the case from ebay, i would not have the matching papers anyway. And the case is not a easy find (could not find one to check the price, and compare to Rolex). Its a 35mm case.

And Rolex will issue new docs for the watch, as iam buying from them.

You're not understanding what they are trying to tell you. In total, you are paying WAY more than this watch is worth. My advice is to leave it as is and enjoy it. If you really must fix it, then ask ABC or another reputable watchmaker if they can laser weld additional steel and reshape it to look normal.

[Ouro9999]

Originally Posted by uansari1

You're not understanding what they are trying to tell you. In total, you are paying WAY more than this watch is worth. My advice is to leave it as is and enjoy it. If you really must fix it, then ask ABC or another reputable watchmaker if they can laser weld additional steel and reshape it to look normal.

Yes they can laser weld, its not cheap, and i would need to send the watch there have it repair it, and sent back to me (in Brazil), and pay some taxes on importing the case back, + all the risk involved. Thanks for your opinion

[Ouro9999]

Originally Posted by uansari1

You're not understanding what they are trying to tell you. In total, you are paying WAY more than this watch is worth. My advice is to leave it as is and enjoy it. If you really must fix it, then ask ABC or another reputable watchmaker if they can laser weld additional steel and reshape it to look normal.

Prices for this kind of watch varies a lot, from 1800.00 USD to 4300.00 usd

So 2500,00 for a watch with a new case, 2 years warranty from Rolex, seems not a bad business, but i think you may be right.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tudor-Day-Da...cAAOSwU-pXrejm

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tudor-Oyster...IAAOSwCGVX7XLE


Thanks for your opinion

[Ouro9999]

Originally Posted by uansari1

You're not understanding what they are trying to tell you. In total, you are paying WAY more than this watch is worth. My advice is to leave it as is and enjoy it. If you really must fix it, then ask ABC or another reputable watchmaker if they can laser weld additional steel and reshape it to look normal.

Or maybe i do not understand the vintages watches as i should, but normaly i do like watchs in good shape, even if they are a little old.

[offrdmania]

That watch is $1500-2000 with a full set in good condition. You cant go off of what they are listed for on eBay. You have to go off of what they actually sold for. If you are looking to resell your watch with a new case, you will have over $1000 more into it then it is actually worth.
I agree with above, send it to Michael Young or ABC and have the lug repaired. That way you can keep the originality of the watch. Vintage buyers will be very suspect of a new case and new papers.

[Ouro9999]

Originally Posted by offrdmania

That watch is $1500-2000 with a full set in good condition. You cant go off of what they are listed for on eBay. You have to go off of what they actually sold for. If you are looking to resell your watch with a new case, you will have over $1000 more into it then it is actually worth.
I agree with above, send it to Michael Young or ABC and have the lug repaired. That way you can keep the originality of the watch. Vintage buyers will be very suspect of a new case and new papers.

Thank you for your advice!

[AJM914]

If you love the watch and want to make it mint then do it! If its gonna make you happy and enjoy it then moneys not an option its only paper! Enjoy my friend

[Ouro9999]

Originally Posted by AJM914

If you love the watch and want to make it mint then do it! If its gonna make you happy and enjoy it then moneys not an option its only paper! Enjoy my friend

Thank you for your opinion, starting to love this watch very much, even more after all those comments.

[andromeda160]

Originally Posted by Ouro9999

Thanks for your opinion, but if i get the case from ebay, i would not have the matching papers anyway. And the case is not a easy find (could not find one to check the price, and compare to Rolex). Its a 35mm case.

And Rolex will issue new docs for the watch, as iam buying from them.

Yes, but if you buy a case off ebay, you will always have the original case w/ your original papers. Then if you ever went to sell, atleast it would be present and could be returned to original. Recasing from rolex is extremely undesirable amd much less so on a tudor DD.

If you really love the reference, and can't stand this case, I'd flip it and buy one in good shape that's all original.

[rollee1]

I am only concerned with accuracy and consistency.
Movement is king, everything else are pedastrian.

[Ouro9999]

Originally Posted by andromeda160

Yes, but if you buy a case off ebay, you will always have the original case w/ your original papers. Then if you ever went to sell, atleast it would be present and could be returned to original. Recasing from rolex is extremely undesirable amd much less so on a tudor DD.

If you really love the reference, and can't stand this case, I'd flip it and buy one in good shape that's all original.

Hi Andromeda, o dont think Rolex will cast a new case, I believe they have old one in stock. They will just get numbers printed. Iam not changing the whole case, bezel and back will remain the same, Rolex told me they will give a paper work that informs they have have replaced this part of the watch. I believe this will be more like a nos watch when i get back from Rolex. This is not a rare watch so all this thing decrease the value from 2k to 1.5k? Or maybe increase the value who knows? I think getting things done by Rolex is better than creating a Frankenstein, the watch can be verified as authentic by Rolex itself. As they did replaced everything and will have all the numbers updated on they data base. Anyone will be able to verify the Watch at any Rolex RSC. What do you think?

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[Ouro9999]

After all your commemts, decide to cancel the ordem for the new case, still at RSC for a full overhaul. After that will see if I will send the watch case for repair.

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[grantfrost]

Originally Posted by Ouro9999

Hi,

I have bought a Tudor day date 94500 last weekend. The watch was not in good shape, but it was complete set.

I have opened a thread to ask opinions on a case repair.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=498385

Contacted few companies about the repair, and decided (at that moment) i would send the case to ABC Watchwerks.

Anyway, i have decided to take the watch to Rolex to get an estimate on the other services the watch needed, (a complete overhaul, including new crown, glass, and everything else to become new againg, except the dial) altough the watch was runing perfectly, the watch was not in good shape. And a Rolex overhaul would get the watch back as new, but still the case had an issue.

But Rolex offered me a new case, and a full overhaul for USD 1780.00, and i did approved the service.

The total cost will be 2470.00 USD. (purchase, rolex overhaul, newcase)

If the case was fixed, i guess i would be spending 1900.00 USD. (purchase, rolex overhaul, case fix)

So was that i wise thing? or have i spent to much on a watch that is not a Rolex?

Thanks for your opinion!

Well I just bought a pepsi 16710 2004 F serial a few weeks back and immediatly took it straight to RSC to have it serviced and polished..and now waiting another 4 weeks to pick it up but can't wait as hoping it will look brand new? Cost me just over £500 including brand new bezel

[Ouro9999]

Originally Posted by grantfrost

Well I just bought a pepsi 16710 2004 F serial a few weeks back and immediatly took it straight to RSC to have it serviced and polished..and now waiting another 4 weeks to pick it up but can't wait as hoping it will look brand new? Cost me just over £500 including brand new bezel

You have a beatiful watch, I have sent 4 watchs to RSC, they always do a very good job. You Will love it.

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[Boaters]

You know what most will say .. but hey if you are good with it then it is the right thing don't look back

[ratty]

I've sometimes wondered how expensive a new case would be.

Often a very worn watch is a lot cheaper than a really good one. I wondered how expensive it would be to have a new case and bezel included in a service.

Can you just ask for a new case if the original is damage ? I know that this would damage the originality, but if this is not too important, would Rolex do this?

[Relyt]

I like the character. I'll give you $500 and wear it as is. :-)


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[Runnin' Rebel]

Romero..
You trust Brasil customs to free your watch up when it's shipped back from Los Angeles ? Of course no offense to you but I would t take that chance. I have a room full of boxes and other stuff that family in Brasil ordered off Amazon cause Amazon won't or can't deliver there. The import and taxes are ridiculous.

I think there is a middle company most Brazilians use when shopping from Amazon.com for items that are not available locally in Brazil. And shipping from the USA can be expensive, specially if you don’t know what the import tax & duties will be; and Amazon.com might just not deliver to Brazil. This is correct right ? Why else would I have a room full of boxes. I think it would be to risky for watchwerks or even you if you prepay.

[Ouro9999]

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel

Romero..
You trust Brasil customs to free your watch up when it's shipped back from Los Angeles ? Of course no offense to you but I would t take that chance. I have a room full of boxes and other stuff that family in Brasil ordered off Amazon cause Amazon won't or can't deliver there. The import and taxes are ridiculous.

I think there is a middle company most Brazilians use when shopping from Amazon.com for items that are not available locally in Brazil. And shipping from the USA can be expensive, specially if you don’t know what the import tax & duties will be; and Amazon.com might just not deliver to Brazil. This is correct right ? Why else would I have a room full of boxes. I think it would be to risky for watchwerks or even you if you prepay.

Hi Mark, how are you doing?

Well i do understand our importing laws very well, as i have an importing company and do import a lot of stuff from USA. But, i only import new products (Brazil law does not allow the importing of used things as a general rule), but i can re import used things that were sent overseas for repair, its a pain in the ass, lots of paper work from both sides, but it is possible. In this case there is not taxes to be paid. Even doing everything correctly sometimes the customs wants to charge something, iam counting on that. And iam sending only the case not the whole watch, so i may need to pay something, but not much. HAve already discussed this with the guys from ABC.

I do buy quote often form amazon and other shops (personal and small things, like watch bracelets and etc), have been using a service named myus.com workes very well, normally have to pay 120% in taxes and fees.

As for my business i can only import stuff related to my business (it hardware in this case), and its a larger volume done by sea. I do never mix personal stuff with my business things, in the business case that sum of all taxes (for the kind of products i import, i pay normally 60-80% taxes.

Thanks for your support and advice amigo!

Romero

[Ouro9999]

Originally Posted by Relyt

I like the character. I'll give you $500 and wear it as is. :-)


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Well, as you say NEVER GIVE UP!


Thanks for your offer, but i think you forgot one more zero.


Regards

Romero Lins

[Ouro9999]

Originally Posted by ratty

I've sometimes wondered how expensive a new case would be.

Often a very worn watch is a lot cheaper than a really good one. I wondered how expensive it would be to have a new case and bezel included in a service.

Can you just ask for a new case if the original is damage ? I know that this would damage the originality, but if this is not too important, would Rolex do this?

Hi, when i first took the watch, Rolex just quote the service, never asked me to change the case. I have asked them how much a new case would cost me, they told me USD 994,00 for this watch. Later i have decided not to buy the case, but i can do it any time.

The watch is under service at Rolex right now, on a spa, the original case will be polished, glass, crown and other worn parts replaced, for the service i will be paying USD 778,00.

Thanks

Romero Lins

[Ouro9999]

Originally Posted by Boaters

You know what most will say .. but hey if you are good with it then it is the right thing don't look back

Thanks Mike!