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Oryx · 30 October 2016, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by conkers

Oryx please clear your message box. Trying to send you something.

cleared - thanks

lapince · 30 October 2016, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Credor

PJ you are invaluable here

Oh yeah, clearly

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Originally Posted by KarlS

With the amount of 5711P's floating around every AD I wonder if they actually made 1300??? Seems like everyone has been offered one except me !!!!

700 Karl not 1400

lapince · 30 October 2016, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by conkers

I still haven't heard from my dealer in the UK whether I have been successful or not. I am sure in this instance no news is bad news!

My friend, from what I understand, for Patek, a good client is one who keeps the watches 5 years at least, and who bought a lot, so it seems to me that anyone who buys many but sells them in 6 to 18 months is not a good client, yeah I know it's stupid...

PJ S · 30 October 2016, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeceee

Reading the comments it appears his AD may have made the application on his behalf.

See my comment above – post #10

mikeceee · 30 October 2016, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PJ S

See my comment above – post #10

Fair enough :)

scrappy · 30 October 2016, 08:00 AM

So much hate for the 5976 that it almost makes me want it more

conkers · 30 October 2016, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by lapince

My friend, from what I understand, for Patek, a good client is one who keeps the watches 5 years at least, and who bought a lot, so it seems to me that anyone who buys many but sells them in 6 to 18 months is not a good client, yeah I know it's stupid...

How would they know? I never post outgoing threads.......

texex91 · 30 October 2016, 09:48 AM

Exactly.

PP is hardly in the business of tracking PP's one sells.

All they care about is what you buy and even that is questionable.

Oryx · 30 October 2016, 05:02 PM

I think the AD also has a huge part to play in the allocation process for any of the hard to get / LE models - I am sure a large part of this is commercial. In terms of the level of revenue the customer generates for the AD across both the PP franchise and any other watch / jewelry the AD may stock.

I find it quite frustrating at times that one has to prove their undying loyalty for the brand to be allocated anything remotely hard to get.

I have an excellent relationship with my AD and that helps a lot - at the very least my expectations are managed.

As for the 5131 that I have been waiting for since 2009........ that's a whole different subject

KarlS · 30 October 2016, 05:25 PM

It's a battle PP can never win. LE are LE's thus not everyone gets them. If you allocated 1. To every dealer, there are some dealers that gave significantly higher value customers that would not benefit yet a high value customer to THAT dealer may benefit. I mentioned there were 30 requests in Kuwait alone for the 5711P and most those clients have significantly higher PP buying power than the average. Do we allocate 1 only? I think Rhone is doing their best to allocate to individuals and not dealers. They like to know the individual to whom the watches are going and avoid serial flippers. Of course that means that you have to compete against the big spenders but as Russel points out he got a 5131 after 8 years from pure perseverance. So there is a place for them. It obviously works differently in the world but we need to recognize the Americas are not a huge market for PP. I think it was 15%. It's also sad that you can actually walk into an AD and the first one with the cash gets the 5711O! That by implication means they actually don't gave any VIP customers to whom this should gave gone!! So a few will be happy, many will be pis&@d off and the majority will be ambivalent!

Passionata · 30 October 2016, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by conkers

How would they know? I never post outgoing threads.......

I think PP registration is the key even if you do not register may your AD does and in case you resell the serial# may reregistered by the buyer.Simple and effective.

iPhone/Tapatalk

unknown · 30 October 2016, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Passionata

I think PP registration is the key even if you do not register may your AD does and in case you resell the serial# may reregistered by the buyer.Simple and effective.

iPhone/Tapatalk

indeed
they know who bought their watch... the AD has to fill in the registration form

And I really wonder what they do with the 'registration form' they have on their website
https://www.patek.com/en/client-serv...r-registration
It doesn't say it's only for new watches...

on the contrary .... did you notice this ??

you don't have to fill in from who you got it ... they don't ask a name
But If I buy a second hand 5131 and fill in all the details on that form ... they know that the original owner just flipped his watch because your AD gave the original owner details to Patek and now somebody else uses the same serial numbers etc

jon_jon · 30 October 2016, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Passionata

I think PP registration is the key even if you do not register may your AD does and in case you resell the serial# may reregistered by the buyer.Simple and effective.

iPhone/Tapatalk

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Originally Posted by unknown

indeed
they know who bought their watch... the AD has to fill in the registration form

And I really wonder what they do with the 'registration form' they have on their website
https://www.patek.com/en/client-serv...r-registration
It doesn't say it's only for new watches...

on the contrary .... did you notice this ??

you don't have to fill in from who you got it ... they don't ask a name
But If I buy a second hand 5131 and fill in all the details on that form ... they know that the original owner just flipped his watch because your AD gave the original owner details to Patek and now somebody else uses the same serial numbers etc

I have registered all my Patek watches and my AD has probably registered many of the watches I have purchased as well. However I know there is a large group of people that don't register their watches for many reasons. I think it definitely helps to develop a relationship with an AD and get to know Patek insiders if you are hoping to be allocated some LE watches.

Widyhs · 31 October 2016, 07:08 PM

Have a good relationship with your AD and you can get your allocation fairly quickly. I pestered my aD the moment it came out and after 3.5 weeks' wait they confirmed my piece. That was the same piece posted on Prosite. i pirchased 4 Patek this year, including the 5976 this year from them. Even then I have nOt received the 5930 from Basel yet but surprised the 5976 came through first. I also registered all watches under my name with Patek.

That and the fact that reception in the beginning have been lukewarm plus slow global economy overall prolly helped in that regard.

30 October 2016, 08:00 AM	#36
scrappy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 623	So much hate for the 5976 that it almost makes me want it more

30 October 2016, 09:48 AM	#38
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	Exactly. PP is hardly in the business of tracking PP's one sells. All they care about is what you buy and even that is questionable.

30 October 2016, 05:02 PM	#39
Oryx "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: London Posts: 1,894	I think the AD also has a huge part to play in the allocation process for any of the hard to get / LE models - I am sure a large part of this is commercial. In terms of the level of revenue the customer generates for the AD across both the PP franchise and any other watch / jewelry the AD may stock. I find it quite frustrating at times that one has to prove their undying loyalty for the brand to be allocated anything remotely hard to get. I have an excellent relationship with my AD and that helps a lot - at the very least my expectations are managed. As for the 5131 that I have been waiting for since 2009........ that's a whole different subject

30 October 2016, 05:25 PM	#40
KarlS Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Karl Location: Kuwait Posts: 5,228	It's a battle PP can never win. LE are LE's thus not everyone gets them. If you allocated 1. To every dealer, there are some dealers that gave significantly higher value customers that would not benefit yet a high value customer to THAT dealer may benefit. I mentioned there were 30 requests in Kuwait alone for the 5711P and most those clients have significantly higher PP buying power than the average. Do we allocate 1 only? I think Rhone is doing their best to allocate to individuals and not dealers. They like to know the individual to whom the watches are going and avoid serial flippers. Of course that means that you have to compete against the big spenders but as Russel points out he got a 5131 after 8 years from pure perseverance. So there is a place for them. It obviously works differently in the world but we need to recognize the Americas are not a huge market for PP. I think it was 15%. It's also sad that you can actually walk into an AD and the first one with the cash gets the 5711O! That by implication means they actually don't gave any VIP customers to whom this should gave gone!! So a few will be happy, many will be pis&@d off and the majority will be ambivalent!

31 October 2016, 07:08 PM	#44
Widyhs "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Jakarta Posts: 22	Have a good relationship with your AD and you can get your allocation fairly quickly. I pestered my aD the moment it came out and after 3.5 weeks' wait they confirmed my piece. That was the same piece posted on Prosite. i pirchased 4 Patek this year, including the 5976 this year from them. Even then I have nOt received the 5930 from Basel yet but surprised the 5976 came through first. I also registered all watches under my name with Patek. That and the fact that reception in the beginning have been lukewarm plus slow global economy overall prolly helped in that regard.

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