The 5980r vs the 5711/1r

[thurgood]

Hi guys,
First off, i apologize for my absence due to my newborn baby and work, haven't been able to share much on the forum, I'm glad to be finally back in the game after a long while.
I'm having a bit of dilemma right now. I recently put a deposit down for the 5980r on strap, and will get it in 3 weeks of time. now i'm having a second thought on getting the 5711/1R, really love the nautilus with RG bracelet, although I do worry a bit if it wears too small on my wrist as I have yet tried the watch. I generally like watches with wrist prescence, so the Rg bracelet somehow would make up for it.
The reason i chose the 5980R is the contrast dial which really pops on the watch, and the thicker case looks absolutely stunning as well. I know this is the early version that came out yrs ago, the hype has certainly cooled down a lot, the 1/R seems to be the most favourite in the line up at the moment. Belive me i did seriously consider getting the full gold, but i'm not sure if I can pull it off given how bling the watch is, the 5711/r on the other hand feels way more subtle and elegant.
My current collection: 5980/1A, Dato PT, 15305RG(strap) platona
Also not sure if the SS can coexist with R?? Should i sell the SS and get the R?
The AD told me i can always put my deposit towards another PP which is a good, but the clock is ticking, have to make up my mind before it's too late.
Sorry about the rant and thoughts appreciated:)

[jaselle]

Having owned all of the watches you mentioned it is a difficult decision.If you can handle the bling factor the 59801r is a memorable,head turning watch.The 5980r is more sport/dress with great presence from the thick case.You already have rg strap AP.Great time to sell 59801a as they are strong right now and deals can be had on 59801r if that helps.5711 1r was a little disappointing after wearing 59801r.It definitely lacked in size and presence but a beautiful dress watch for smaller wrists.Good luck!

[lapince]

I prefer the 5711-1R but I can't wear full gold... So for myself would take the 5980

[Hairdude1]

I prefer the 5980 on a strap so maybe flip the 5980 1a

[AK797]

I love the 5711/1R, as you say it is sleek and elegant but with wrist presence. As you have a RG AP on strap, I did too, and a 5980 it also seems the better choice for you too.

[texex91]

I'd keep what you have and maybe add an AP.

[Tourbeon]

Originally Posted by AK797

I love the 5711/1R, as you say it is sleek and elegant but with wrist presence. As you have a RG AP on strap, I did too, and a 5980 it also seems the better choice for you too.

Wow

[jschmidtdmd]

Having owned both, I much prefer the 5711r, but I am probably in the minority

[ap1]

How can you say no to Neil's. That's the one and it fits better with your fleet.

[thurgood]

[QUOTE=AK797;7134686]I love the 5711/1R, as you say it is sleek and elegant but with wrist presence. As you have a RG AP on strap, I did too, and a 5980 it also seems the better choice for you too.

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Neil, your 5711/1R was one of the reasons I wanted go ahead and place the order, only concern is if it wears too thin, I owned a 5712R and find it a bit on the slim side, I was told the 1R is even thinner than the 12R, is that true?

[benlee]

Congrats on your new baby.

Between the two, 5711-1R is the more comfortable watch while both looks great. So I will go for the 5711-1R. The 5980R is very top-heavy. I can barely stand to wear it more than 10 mins. YMMV.

[thurgood]

Originally Posted by texex91

I'd keep what you have and maybe add an AP.

I wish I could Paul, but the deposit is already paid and it's non refundable. Can only use it towards another PP:(

[thurgood]

Originally Posted by benlee

Congrats on your new baby.

Between the two, 5711-1R is the more comfortable watch while both looks great. So I will go for the 5711-1R. The 5980R is very top-heavy. I can barely stand to wear it more than 10 mins. YMMV.

Thanks buddy, yeah i've read your other posts stated that. I think the 5711r would make more sense since I already have a SS in my collection, there's just something about that contrast dial of the 5980r that really gets me.

[Tourbeon]

I think the 5711 l, while being a bold piece, can be more versatile in formal and casual. 5980 is more 'sporty' with thicker case.

[KarlS]

Easy...5711R....

[lapince]

5711-1R is slightly thinner than 5712R, if you don't like uktra thin watches forget it

[benlee]

Originally Posted by thurgood

Thanks buddy, yeah i've read your other posts stated that. I think the 5711r would make more sense since I already have a SS in my collection, there's just something about that contrast dial of the 5980r that really gets me.

5980r indeed has a very nice contrasty dial and I love it too. But you have to try it on yourself if you are ok with the fit and comfort. I was very closed to buying one abut gave up after I tried on my friend's 5980R. Way too top heavy. However some people find it ok so it depends. Best to try it on before buying.

[thurgood]

Originally Posted by lapince

5711-1R is slightly thinner than 5712R, if you don't like uktra thin watches forget it

Thanks Arnauld, that's good to know. No I'm not a big fan of ultra thin watches.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by benlee

5980r indeed has a very nice contrasty dial and I love it too. But you have to try it on yourself if you are ok with the fit and comfort. I was very closed to buying one abut gave up after I tried on my friend's 5980R. Way too top heavy. However some people find it ok so it depends. Best to try it on before buying.

Heavier than AP 44 RG?

[thurgood]

Originally Posted by benlee

5980r indeed has a very nice contrasty dial and I love it too. But you have to try it on yourself if you are ok with the fit and comfort. I was very closed to buying one abut gave up after I tried on my friend's 5980R. Way too top heavy. However some people find it ok so it depends. Best to try it on before buying.

I hear you Ben, hopefully the fit won't be an issue. Thought about going all out on the 5980 full gold, I know the bracelet will balance out the weight which would be more comrfortable to wear, but i just can't do a full gold watch that size:(

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by lapince

5711-1R is slightly thinner than 5712R, if you don't like uktra thin watches forget it

It is lovely on the wrist!

[RussW]

Congratulations on your new baby and good to see you posting again! I love the 5880r, but I would pass if I was you, you already have three amazing chronos. The 5711/1r is a real beauty, it may be thin, but it's quite heavy so feels more substantial than it looks. If you're happy with full rose gold then I would choose that.

If you want something with wrist presence on a strap then I'd also consider a 5524.

BTW, it doesn't sound good to me that your AD won't return your deposit, it should always be refundable. Your AD shouldn't have asked for a deposit in the first place.

[PJ S]

Originally Posted by thurgood

I wish I could Paul, but the deposit is already paid and it's non refundable. Can only use it towards another PP:(

5164R, since you like a bit of bulk to your watch, albeit narrower at 41mm vs 43 and 44 of the two Nautilus?
Agree with Russ – a deposit shouldn’t have been a precondition of sale, but it should still be refundable, since it was.

[Jetkopite]

Originally Posted by benlee

5980r indeed has a very nice contrasty dial and I love it too. But you have to try it on yourself if you are ok with the fit and comfort. I was very closed to buying one abut gave up after I tried on my friend's 5980R. Way too top heavy. However some people find it ok so it depends. Best to try it on before buying.

I agree with Ben, I had the 5980R and although stunning it wasnt the most comfortable of watches on the wrist.. But in saying that I have smallish wrists so maybe it will it much nicer on your wrist.. Its a stunning piece though..

[AK797]

Originally Posted by AK797

I love the 5711/1R, as you say it is sleek and elegant but with wrist presence. As you have a RG AP on strap, I did too, and a 5980 it also seems the better choice for you too.

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Neil, your 5711/1R was one of the reasons I wanted go ahead and place the order, only concern is if it wears too thin, I owned a 5712R and find it a bit on the slim side, I was told the 1R is even thinner than the 12R, is that true?

Scott, it might be a fraction thinner than the 5712 but as Russ and Russell said the gold bracelet adds a lovely heft that makes it feel far more substantial than the 5712r, it weighs around 170g so more than a subc.

[Widyhs]

5711 R gets my nod. Something about that tose gold is more elegant in simplicity

[thurgood]

Originally Posted by RussW

Congratulations on your new baby and good to see you posting again! I love the 5880r, but I would pass if I was you, you already have three amazing chronos. The 5711/1r is a real beauty, it may be thin, but it's quite heavy so feels more substantial than it looks. If you're happy with full rose gold then I would choose that.

If you want something with wrist presence on a strap then I'd also consider a 5524.

BTW, it doesn't sound good to me that your AD won't return your deposit, it should always be refundable. Your AD shouldn't have asked for a deposit in the first place.

Thanks Russ, i agree the 5711r might be a better fit for my collection and I'm seriously thinking about adding it. I was never fond of the 5524 except the size, it looks a lot like the IWC pilot watch. and for the deposit i did negotiate a very good discount from the AD, hence it's not refundable, I will pursue another PP anyway, so it doesn't matter as long as I can put it towards another piece if the 5980r doesn't work for me. Appreciate the concern buddy:)

Originally Posted by PJ S

5164R, since you like a bit of bulk to your watch, albeit narrower at 41mm vs 43 and 44 of the two Nautilus?
Agree with Russ – a deposit shouldn’t have been a precondition of sale, but it should still be refundable, since it was.

The 5164R is very nice by no means, I'm just not a big fan of the aquanaut models:)

Originally Posted by Jetkopite

I agree with Ben, I had the 5980R and although stunning it wasnt the most comfortable of watches on the wrist.. But in saying that I have smallish wrists so maybe it will it much nicer on your wrist.. Its a stunning piece though..

It is indeed a very impressive watch with ton of wrist presence, exactly what I'm looking for.

Originally Posted by AK797

Scott, it might be a fraction thinner than the 5712 but as Russ and Russell said the gold bracelet adds a lovely heft that makes it feel far more substantial than the 5712r, it weighs around 170g so more than a subc.

Thanks for the info on the size Neil. It is a nice weight at 170g, hmm..this is getting really tough, I really love the look of the 5980r, the 5711/1R is no slouch either, have to do some serious thinking since I can only get one

[slashd0t]

Originally Posted by AK797

I love the 5711/1R, as you say it is sleek and elegant but with wrist presence. As you have a RG AP on strap, I did too, and a 5980 it also seems the better choice for you too.

My god that's an insanely beautiful watch. Seriously perfect

[jschmidtdmd]

I know I said I wouldn't do it again, but I am debating give the 5980 another shot with a 1.5 link.

I really want to love the watch, but it has to fit me!

The fit of the 5711r is amazing.

[Headshrinker]

I prefer the bracelet, so I vote for the 5711r. I have the 5980r, while it does sit higher than the 5711, the bracelet on the 5980 compensates for the heaviness of the case. Both are great watches; don't get too upset over your choice.