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Chrisbuer · 4 December 2016, 07:13 AM

Hi all,

I'm looking to add a Panerai to my collection and I can't decide between two models. I'm new to the brand so wondered if anyone could offer any thoughts, tips or advise?

The two I'm looking at are the PAM01359 and the PAM00631. So what says the forum?

fullcourt · 4 December 2016, 07:46 AM

first question always is have you been able to try them on?

one is an auto, one manual wind....totally different.

last thing, which one songs to you? auto/date vs manual/no-date

Chrisbuer · 4 December 2016, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullcourt

first question always is have you been able to try them on?

one is an auto, one manual wind....totally different.

last thing, which one songs to you? auto/date vs manual/no-date

I haven't been able to try on either although I did try on this one which I believe has the same dimensions and I loved it!

I'm ambivalent about manual wind vs. automatic as I tend to cycle my watches every few days so I'm not sure how much of a difference it'll really make. If I had to pick, I'd probably choose automatic over manual.

The one that sings to me is probably this one as I prefer the more simple face....

Hard_Six · 4 December 2016, 09:33 AM

I like the 1359

Rain49king · 4 December 2016, 11:39 AM

Why not buy the one you already tried on? It's the best looking of the 3 to me! I waited a while to buy my first Panerai and finally went with the 422 and love it! Good luck and enjoy.

fullcourt · 4 December 2016, 12:20 PM

which one did you try on? the 1359 is a great piece.

Ruud Van Driver · 4 December 2016, 01:23 PM

I prefer the 1359 out of the two but suggest you take a look at the 359. It's the precursor to the 1359 and a far more handsome piece.

Mine's only a few months old so could've had either but for me it always going to be the 359.

Here's mine:

fullcourt · 4 December 2016, 01:50 PM

or if you want a different dial try the 312, love mine.

(technically mine is a 328 as it came with a ss bracelet)

Cru Jones · 4 December 2016, 04:07 PM

I would look to the 312/359 before the 1312/1359 unless the fit of the 1312/1359 were really much better on my wrist due to the thinner case or if the blue hand of the 1312/1359 was an "absolute must have".

As for the 631, I would avoid it due to the snap back case and integrated bezel. I would instead look at the 510 or, even better, the 005 or 111.

Good luck with your choice and I hope to see what you chose.

Chrisbuer · 4 December 2016, 07:49 PM

Thanks for your feedback and suggestions. I really appreciate it.

On reflection, I love the 312 but I think it's got to be the 1312! I just love the little blue dial on it.

Cru Jones · 4 December 2016, 08:45 PM

^ 1312 is a nice update for sure, and the blue is a nice touch. One last thing to think about though: whether or not you feel the blue on the dial limits the possible strap combos....

Ar_Mi · 4 December 2016, 08:47 PM

Heres my take.. The PAM01359 has the in-house P.9010 calibre, which is automatic, and obv that means price wise its going to be more expensive around 7.5K i think..
where as the PAM 00631 has the ETA based OP II calibre movement which is a manual wind and a proven work horse, obv touched up and made prettier and modified a bit by panerai.. it all comes down to how movement snobby u want to be. Its priced about 4.3K.

I went with the PAM base logo because I already had other in house movement higher end swiss watches.. like yourself with your BLNR, so i was looking for something a bit different(manual wind) and fun to wear.. I already had date, gmt, calendar watches.. so time only was fun and diff and less pricey for me.

As far as retained value im not too sure of the used market but i assume the in-house calibre is better.. either way two beautiful watches.

Good luck

Chrisbuer · 4 December 2016, 10:47 PM

I actually quite like the blue dial on the 1312 and don't think it'll cause too many problems with different straps. The strap colours I have in mind are blue, cream, brown and black and I think the blue dial will work with all of those.

I also agree with the point made about the PAM 631. There is a price difference but it's not that large and I think if I'm going to spend the money, I'd rather buy something that I really like.

p_mcgee · 4 December 2016, 11:58 PM

Nice choice, I prefer the 1312 over the original 2 choices as well.

nick c · 5 December 2016, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruud Van Driver

I prefer the 1359 out of the two but suggest you take a look at the 359. It's the precursor to the 1359 and a far more handsome piece.

Mine's only a few months old so could've had either but for me it always going to be the 359.

Here's mine:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

I would look to the 312/359 before the 1312/1359 unless the fit of the 1312/1359 were really much better on my wrist due to the thinner case or if the blue hand of the 1312/1359 was an "absolute must have".

As for the 631, I would avoid it due to the snap back case and integrated bezel. I would instead look at the 510 or, even better, the 005 or 111.

Good luck with your choice and I hope to see what you chose.

312/359

fullcourt · 5 December 2016, 02:27 AM

good luck....

Babolat · 5 December 2016, 03:15 AM

I'd go with the pam1312 it's a beaut !!!
The blue seconds hand is not as prominent as it looks in pics ...
I'm hoping to get a 1312 once avail in UK ...

Chrisbuer · 5 December 2016, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babolat

I'd go with the pam1312 it's a beaut !!!
The blue seconds hand is not as prominent as it looks in pics ...
I'm hoping to get a 1312 once avail in UK ...

I thought it was already available in the U.K.? I've found a dealer who can get me one...

Babolat · 5 December 2016, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisbuer

I thought it was already available in the U.K.? I've found a dealer who can get me one...

None of the UK ADs have in stock as only boutiques have this.
Some dealers in U.K can source, however lead time of ~3 to 4 months

fullcourt · 6 December 2016, 01:32 AM

i know where there's at least 1 in the usa, if you're interested.

Psmith · 6 December 2016, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

I would look to the 312/359 before the 1312/1359 unless the fit of the 1312/1359 were really much better on my wrist due to the thinner case or if the blue hand of the 1312/1359 was an "absolute must have".

As for the 631, I would avoid it due to the snap back case and integrated bezel. I would instead look at the 510 or, even better, the 005 or 111.

Good luck with your choice and I hope to see what you chose.

^ This

bmpwatch · 7 December 2016, 02:20 AM

heres my take- as the previous poster mentioned the 0631 is ETA based movement- its a much simpler movement and will afford you the opportunity to get the watch fixed quickly and affordably by an experienced watchmaker. No need to send it back to the pricey and lengthy wait that comes with the official Panerai service center.

ocwatching · 7 December 2016, 05:43 AM

one more thing...the 631 is not the 1950 case...or the slimmed down 1950 case...
+1 on ETA being easier to service...
from your discussion..it looks like you enjoy a touch of blue...

I had the 312 and with 6.5" wrist..it was top heavy...the 1312 should sit better

4 December 2016, 07:13 AM	#1
Chrisbuer "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: U.K. Watch: Rolex BLNR Posts: 149	Need help making a decision Hi all, I'm looking to add a Panerai to my collection and I can't decide between two models. I'm new to the brand so wondered if anyone could offer any thoughts, tips or advise? The two I'm looking at are the PAM01359 and the PAM00631. So what says the forum?

4 December 2016, 07:46 AM	#2
fullcourt "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: dp Location: chicago, usa Watch: panerai Posts: 2,369	first question always is have you been able to try them on? one is an auto, one manual wind....totally different. last thing, which one songs to you? auto/date vs manual/no-date __________________ dp just living the dream chicago, usa chgo_risti on IG

4 December 2016, 12:20 PM	#6
fullcourt "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: dp Location: chicago, usa Watch: panerai Posts: 2,369	which one did you try on? the 1359 is a great piece. __________________ dp just living the dream chicago, usa chgo_risti on IG

4 December 2016, 01:23 PM	#7
Ruud Van Driver "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Chopped Liver Location: S. Wales Valleys Watch: Mickey Mouse Posts: 9,926	I prefer the 1359 out of the two but suggest you take a look at the 359. It's the precursor to the 1359 and a far more handsome piece. Mine's only a few months old so could've had either but for me it always going to be the 359. Here's mine: Attached Images __________________ 116520 Black, 116610 LVc, 116660 D-Blue, 116610 LNc, 116622 Blue, PAM359, PAM689, PAM737 *"Why should you allow an AD to shake you down, just so you can buy a watch" - Grady Philpott* Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

4 December 2016, 01:50 PM	#8
fullcourt "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: dp Location: chicago, usa Watch: panerai Posts: 2,369	or if you want a different dial try the 312, love mine. (technically mine is a 328 as it came with a ss bracelet) Attached Images __________________ dp just living the dream chicago, usa chgo_risti on IG

4 December 2016, 09:33 AM	#4
Hard_Six "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Real Name: Trey Location: Texas Watch: those three’s roll Posts: 3,036	I like the 1359

4 December 2016, 11:39 AM	#5
Rain49king "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Florida Posts: 79	Why not buy the one you already tried on? It's the best looking of the 3 to me! I waited a while to buy my first Panerai and finally went with the 422 and love it! Good luck and enjoy.

4 December 2016, 04:07 PM	#9
Cru Jones 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: CET Posts: 36,088	I would look to the 312/359 before the 1312/1359 unless the fit of the 1312/1359 were really much better on my wrist due to the thinner case or if the blue hand of the 1312/1359 was an "absolute must have". As for the 631, I would avoid it due to the snap back case and integrated bezel. I would instead look at the 510 or, even better, the 005 or 111. Good luck with your choice and I hope to see what you chose.

4 December 2016, 07:49 PM	#10
Chrisbuer "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: U.K. Watch: Rolex BLNR Posts: 149	Thanks for your feedback and suggestions. I really appreciate it. On reflection, I love the 312 but I think it's got to be the 1312! I just love the little blue dial on it.

4 December 2016, 08:45 PM	#11
Cru Jones 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: CET Posts: 36,088	^ 1312 is a nice update for sure, and the blue is a nice touch. One last thing to think about though: whether or not you feel the blue on the dial limits the possible strap combos....

4 December 2016, 08:47 PM	#12
Ar_Mi "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Dubai/Los Angeles Watch: a few Posts: 595	Heres my take.. The PAM01359 has the in-house P.9010 calibre, which is automatic, and obv that means price wise its going to be more expensive around 7.5K i think.. where as the PAM 00631 has the ETA based OP II calibre movement which is a manual wind and a proven work horse, obv touched up and made prettier and modified a bit by panerai.. it all comes down to how movement snobby u want to be. Its priced about 4.3K. I went with the PAM base logo because I already had other in house movement higher end swiss watches.. like yourself with your BLNR, so i was looking for something a bit different(manual wind) and fun to wear.. I already had date, gmt, calendar watches.. so time only was fun and diff and less pricey for me. As far as retained value im not too sure of the used market but i assume the in-house calibre is better.. either way two beautiful watches. Good luck

4 December 2016, 10:47 PM	#13
Chrisbuer "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: U.K. Watch: Rolex BLNR Posts: 149	I actually quite like the blue dial on the 1312 and don't think it'll cause too many problems with different straps. The strap colours I have in mind are blue, cream, brown and black and I think the blue dial will work with all of those. I also agree with the point made about the PAM 631. There is a price difference but it's not that large and I think if I'm going to spend the money, I'd rather buy something that I really like.

4 December 2016, 11:58 PM	#14
p_mcgee "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,150	Nice choice, I prefer the 1312 over the original 2 choices as well.

5 December 2016, 02:27 AM	#16
fullcourt "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: dp Location: chicago, usa Watch: panerai Posts: 2,369	good luck.... __________________ dp just living the dream chicago, usa chgo_risti on IG

5 December 2016, 03:15 AM	#17
Babolat "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: UK Watch: TT GMTIIc V Series Posts: 222	I'd go with the pam1312 it's a beaut !!! The blue seconds hand is not as prominent as it looks in pics ... I'm hoping to get a 1312 once avail in UK ...

6 December 2016, 01:32 AM	#20
fullcourt "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: dp Location: chicago, usa Watch: panerai Posts: 2,369	i know where there's at least 1 in the usa, if you're interested. __________________ dp just living the dream chicago, usa chgo_risti on IG

7 December 2016, 02:20 AM	#22
bmpwatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Brad Location: Boston / FL Posts: 679	heres my take- as the previous poster mentioned the 0631 is ETA based movement- its a much simpler movement and will afford you the opportunity to get the watch fixed quickly and affordably by an experienced watchmaker. No need to send it back to the pricey and lengthy wait that comes with the official Panerai service center.

7 December 2016, 05:43 AM	#23
ocwatching "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Phil Location: CA Posts: 5,374	one more thing...the 631 is not the 1950 case...or the slimmed down 1950 case... +1 on ETA being easier to service... from your discussion..it looks like you enjoy a touch of blue... I had the 312 and with 6.5" wrist..it was top heavy...the 1312 should sit better __________________ too much into watches...

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