Inner ring engraving alignment

[SamHo]

Dear All:
I have something thats bother me a while already, i have a TT GMT 2, and the inner ring engraving does not align to the minute marker of the dial, and as i read from the other forum, things like this can indicates thats a fake, and this is the only Rolex I bought from a non AD watch shop, can you guys please give me some advice?? any one seen this happen on a genuine Rolex?

Picture for reference

[VIG]

The watch is 100% genuine so don't worry about that.

[mjclark32]

I've noticed a few in the FS section that were off too, one on a WG BLRO even. My 114300's is off too, no big deal

[Masteryacht]

Nice watch

[GLADIATOR]

Its called the "rehaut"
Generally I insist for genuine watch that its perfectly aligned. but I have seen some that are not.

Your GMTII is genuine, I can see that from other areas
ENJOY
adam

[cajunron]

I too used to think rehaut engraving and alignment was supposed to be perfectly 'dead on' with the minute markers. I guess sometimes that isn't the case. Watch looks authentic to me.

[natosub]

That one is probably off more than most, but not in and of itself an indication that it is fake. Just inadequate QC on the part of Rolex.

[Abdullah71601]

The dial is just misaligned in the case. You can have that corrected by any watchmaker if it bothers you.

[SamHo]

Thank you guys for your comment!! As long as it's a genuine Watch, minor problem like this I can live with, cheers!

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

The dial is just misaligned in the case. You can have that corrected by any watchmaker if it bothers you.

Sadly not correct, for a number of reasons.
The whole case would need to be replaced
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[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Sadly not correct, for a number of reasons.
The whole case would need to be replaced
a

As PADI and others have said in other threads, the dial can be realigned.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

As PADI and others have said in other threads, the dial can be realigned.

How?
I do not know PADI or the other threads you mention, but in the OP's case it would be impossible to completely and correctly realign the rehaut markings to the dial batons.

In the OP's case a new "case" would be required to make it "ALL" 100% align!

A

[VIG]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

How?
I do not know PADI or the other threads you mention, but in the OP's case it would be impossible to completely and correctly realign the rehaut markings to the dial batons.

In the OP's case a new "case" would be required to make it "ALL" 100% align!

A

This.

The rehaut is a part of the case and that's what's off. Not the dial.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by VIG

This.

The rehaut is a part of the case and that's what's off. Not the dial.

EXACTLY!
So pray tell me how rotating the dial will align the complete dial batons to the rehaut????

Also, tell me how you can rotate a dial, and still have the date window in the exact correct place, or 6 o clock????!!!


A

[goldfixer21]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

EXACTLY!
So pray tell me how rotating the dial will align the complete dial batons to the rehaut????

Also, tell me how you can rotate a dial, and still have the date window in the exact correct place, or 6 o clock????!!!


A

You cannot rotate just the dial, but you can slightly, VERY slightly turn the entire movement by loosening the screws that hold it in the case. As you stated this may make the cyclops off from the date.

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by goldfixer21

You cannot rotate just the dial, but you can slightly, VERY slightly turn the entire movement by loosening the screws that hold it in the case. As you stated this may make the cyclops off from the date.

Then you slightly, VERY slightly turn the crystal.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by MonBK

Then you slightly, VERY slightly turn the crystal.

"pardon"
You guys are having a laugh, yes?

So instead of an original watch where "just" the coronet is misaligned, we now have:

"coronet correctly aligned to 12 o'clock baton
BUT
3, 6, 9 o clock some 1mm out.
The date window 1 mm out
The cyclops 1 mm out
AND
Every other rehaut "X" and "R" 1 mm out!!!!

Yes, that looks much better.
Now why would it be IMPOSSIBLE to "very slightly move the movement"?

This watch has a "triplock" Oyster crown - when you screw the crown down onto the stem, it must be dead straight and horizontal, not twisted round 1mm or so!.
Tightening the "oyster" crown would immediately bring any movement back to its correct symmetry!!!

So the OP has two option, leave as is, or return to a Rolex Service center, where they "may" agree to change the misaligned case!!
adam

[usrudiver932]

Not that I'm an expert far from it, if u look at the 12 triangle marker it is off to the right too. So it may be that the dial is out and all that will align once fixed. If new maybe the jeweler u got it from will correct or wait and ask it be aligned when in for your next service. My 2 cents

[freefly]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Sadly not correct, for a number of reasons.
The whole case would need to be replaced
a

Originally Posted by VIG

This.

The rehaut is a part of the case and that's what's off. Not the dial.

The rehaut engraving is not "off" nor would fixing the problem require a replacement case. Whomever cased the movement simply didn't' take the time to align it properly.
There is a very small amount of play between the dial and movement, and a bit more play between the movement and the case. It's a relatively easy fix IMO.
It looks to be only a fraction of a millimeter off - the pics/magnification likely make it appear worse than it really is.

[Masteryacht]

Originally Posted by usrudiver932

Not that I'm an expert far from it, if u look at the 12 triangle marker it is off to the right too. So it may be that the dial is out and all that will align once fixed. If new maybe the jeweler u got it from will correct or wait and ask it be aligned when in for your next service. My 2 cents

We are really off and running now!

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by usrudiver932

Not that I'm an expert far from it, if u look at the 12 triangle marker it is off to the right too. So it may be that the dial is out and all that will align once fixed. If new maybe the jeweler u got it from will correct or wait and ask it be aligned when in for your next service. My 2 cents

Once the dial is aligned with the rehaut, the triangle will line right up. It's a nice watch, just needs a tweak to be perfect.

FWIW, I would leave the dial alignment alone until the next service.

[Knappo 1307]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

The dial is just misaligned in the case. You can have that corrected by any watchmaker if it bothers you.

Originally Posted by goldfixer21

You cannot rotate just the dial, but you can slightly, VERY slightly turn the entire movement by loosening the screws that hold it in the case. As you stated this may make the cyclops off from the date.

Originally Posted by freefly

The rehaut engraving is not "off" nor would fixing the problem require a replacement case. Whomever cased the movement simply didn't' take the time to align it properly.
There is a very small amount of play between the dial and movement, and a bit more play between the movement and the case. It's a relatively easy fix IMO.
It looks to be only a fraction of a millimeter off - the pics/magnification likely make it appear worse than it really is.

Well done fellas...