How about this 5513?

[Greg5512]

Here's another available to me

[tjbender]

What about it?

[Greg5512]

It is a follow up post I have a post below asking opinions on condition of a 5513

This one is available to me too

[rmlovett1]

Do some homework here.....5513mattedial.com

[sprezzatura]

I know that this is more of a transitional model than properly vintage for some, but please indulge me. Does the Submariner below seem like a decent example of the post-1984 iteration of 5513 (with WG surrounds, "warts and all")?

Thank you for all your help!

[waspy1]

The first pic and the second set of 3 pics are different watches, no?


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[sprezzatura]

Originally Posted by waspy1

The first pic and the second set of 3 pics are different watches, no?


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Absolutely. But I think the moderators have thought my creation of a new thread would have been superfluous and moved my post into this one.

Any comments on the second Sub?

[datejust24]

Originally Posted by waspy1

The first pic and the second set of 3 pics are different watches, no?


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Exactly what I was thinking

[swish77]

Two different posters asking about different watches.

Need better photos but both look OK. I prefer the second one. The first one appears to have uneven tritium patina dial vs. hands, but it could be the lighting. Tough to tell about the cases without better shots.

If I'm looking for a 5513, I'd want a matte dial. If the wg surrounds don't bother you, why not get an early tritium 14060 and save some money? I get that it's acrylic vs. sapphire, but you'd have to decide how much that difference is worth, because otherwise the watches are visually very similar.

[waspy1]

Originally Posted by sprezzatura

Absolutely. But I think the moderators have thought my creation of a new thread would have been superfluous and moved my post into this one.



Any comments on the second Sub?

Ah, ok - confusing. I'd say the one you posted looks pretty good. Would need close up pics to be sure though.


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[sprezzatura]

Originally Posted by swish77

Two different posters asking about different watches.

Need better photos but both look OK. I prefer the second one. The first one appears to have uneven tritium patina dial vs. hands, but it could be the lighting. Tough to tell about the cases without better shots.

If I'm looking for a 5513, I'd want a matte dial. If the wg surrounds don't bother you, why not get an early tritium 14060 and save some money? I get that it's acrylic vs. sapphire, but you'd have to decide how much that difference is worth, because otherwise the watches are visually very similar.

I agree with you for the most part; I just cant warm up to the sapphire crystal and especially the ratcheting bezel on modern Subs. The earlier examples of 5513 are out of my price range right now, but I should probably hold out for a decent '80s piece right before the ('84?) transition to WG surrounds. If I can find one that is not perfect enough for collectors, perhaps I can poach it as my daily wearer. I can certainly live with the imperfections!

[sprezzatura]

How about this one? It seems a little overpolished to my untrained eye. And it is just the head. What kind of movement should expect to see in this mid-'80s transitional model? I was also told that the hands were a replacement; is it just me, or do they look like some sort of aftermarket monstrosity rather than Rolex service replacement? I would probably walk away, if that were the case. . .

There are, however, a couple of attractive things about it. Starting with the fact that I may be able to get a very good price on it! What would be a fair price for it (not to flip, but to wear)?

[sprezzatura]

Now that Greg5512 is all set with his SubC, you can help me out a little bit here!