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chris242 · 14 April 2017, 04:52 PM

walked by a pawn shop today and saw a beautiful SS DJ2 116334 fluted bezel, among a few other not so interesting ones, sitting in the window, so i had to go in.. they had it priced at 6900, and said, without me asking what they could do as far as price...6300.. so i was curious to see what they would offer me for my watch right there on the spot, without the box... 3400.. so id have to throw down another 3500 basically with tax...thoughts?!

henrylee · 14 April 2017, 05:03 PM

Well the 16570 sells for about $4k with box and papers. The 116334 with gold fluted is actually well priced at $6300. I would consider the purchase if you like the DJ2.

Bigsykedaddy · 14 April 2017, 05:22 PM

I think that's a fair deal if you like the watch more than your Ex II

Gerardus · 14 April 2017, 05:28 PM

If you like it >do it.
(I would not....)

meganfox17 · 14 April 2017, 06:28 PM

Average Malaysian Market Retail Prices
Based on today's US Dollar Malaysian Ringgit currency exchange rate

DJ II Ref 116334 SS 18k WG fluted bezel Brand New Full Set
Arabic or Baton index markers
USD 7078

DJ II Ref 116334 18k WG fluted bezel G series 2010 PreOwned Roman markers USD 5842

Exp II Ref 16570 Condition >9/10

Polar preowned
V series 2014 Box + papers USD 4943

Black preowned
M series Box + papers USD 4352

Black preowned
Yr 2000 No Box No papers
Certificate only USD 3775

Exp II Polar 16570 Brand New Random serial full set USD 5955

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chris242 · 15 April 2017, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meganfox17

Average Malaysian Market Retail Prices
Based on today's US Dollar Malaysian Ringgit currency exchange rate

DJ II Ref 116334 SS 18k WG fluted bezel Brand New Full Set
Arabic or Baton index markers
USD 7078

DJ II Ref 116334 18k WG fluted bezel G series 2010 PreOwned Roman markers USD 5842

Exp II Ref 16570 Condition >9/10

Polar preowned
V series 2014 Box + papers USD 4943

Black preowned
M series Box + papers USD 4352

Black preowned
Yr 2000 No Box No papers
Certificate only USD 3775

Exp II Polar 16570 Brand New Random serial full set USD 5955

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so the ex2 is going up in value if i read that correctly?

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douglasf13 · 15 April 2017, 01:30 AM

The 16570 is my favorite Rolex, so I personally wouldn't do it, but you've got to go with what makes you happy.

chris242 · 15 April 2017, 01:33 AM

ill probably hold out until i can just buy it without the trade in..just curious what everyones thoughts were on the trade... i do LOVE my 16570!

meganfox17 · 15 April 2017, 04:36 AM

The answer to the OP's question is Yes. Based on my own survey , the price of a brand new or preowned but unworn unsized bracelet Ref 16570 Black or Polar is a fraction more expensive than a preowned Ref 216570 Black or Polar. I dont know about situation in other countries so dont shoot the messenger ! It seems Ref 16570 is just as popular as the modern Exp II , the value of a good condition 2nd ,3rd or 4th hand isnt depreciating one bit rather it is holding its worth quite impressively.

Another interesting observation I made was that if you had purchased an Exp II Ref 16750 in selected well established ADs in Kuala Lumpur , should you decide to sell it back at a later date to the same dealer, you are guaranteed money back of 90 -95% of your initial investment. No questions asked !

Rarely if you happen to come across a preowned authenticated Polar or Black dial Ref 16570 +/- Box and papers with an unabashedly higher price tag, and you ask the Seller " What are you charging so much when I get a cheaper unit elsewhere ? " .Without batting an eyelid, the Chinese Seller discloses the fact that the serial number sounds like Double Prosperity Happiness and Long Life in Mandarin , hence the " premium price ". I guess if you're a superstitious person & believe the watch would bring you good luck and ward off evil spirits , this sort of reply makes a hell lot of sense !

A couple of my Caucasian friends from another watch forum were asking me about Vintage Patina dials on the Sub & Explorer models in Malaysia.

Apparently these watch collectors are hunting for the Tritium Hour Index ( Swiss T < 25 on the dial ) in South East Asian nations . Here I'll show you guys some examples ( Both are W serial but surprisingly tagged exactly at only USD $4224 dated 1996-Polar /1995-black ).I was told some of the best vintage coffee or cappucinno patina dials are found where the weather is hot and humid with plenty of sunlight so equatorial countries are a good place to start.....

14 April 2017, 04:52 PM	#1
chris242 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: The Bahamas Watch: 116610lv Posts: 1,078	16570 to 116334?! walked by a pawn shop today and saw a beautiful SS DJ2 116334 fluted bezel, among a few other not so interesting ones, sitting in the window, so i had to go in.. they had it priced at 6900, and said, without me asking what they could do as far as price...6300.. so i was curious to see what they would offer me for my watch right there on the spot, without the box... 3400.. so id have to throw down another 3500 basically with tax...thoughts?!

14 April 2017, 05:03 PM	#2
henrylee "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Socal/LA Watch: 116610LN Ceramic Posts: 3,223	Well the 16570 sells for about $4k with box and papers. The 116334 with gold fluted is actually well priced at $6300. I would consider the purchase if you like the DJ2. __________________ ♛ Sub 116610LN 2011 ♛ GMT 126710BLNR 2021 ♛ GMT 126711CHNR 2020 ♛ Datejust 16233 X-series 1993 Ω Speedmaster Mitsukoshi 2019 č Cartier Tank w5200025 2021

14 April 2017, 05:28 PM	#4
Gerardus "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Gerardus Location: often in the air Watch: ♕ Posts: 12,129	If you like it >do it. (I would not....) __________________ ♕126610 ♕126333 ♕116300

14 April 2017, 05:22 PM	#3
Bigsykedaddy "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Real Name: Anthony Location: Florida Watch: LVc \| SubC Posts: 2,285	I think that's a fair deal if you like the watch more than your Ex II

14 April 2017, 06:28 PM	#5
meganfox17 Banned Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Kuala Lumpur , Ma Posts: 2,011	Average Malaysian Market Retail Prices Based on today's US Dollar Malaysian Ringgit currency exchange rate DJ II Ref 116334 SS 18k WG fluted bezel Brand New Full Set Arabic or Baton index markers USD 7078 DJ II Ref 116334 18k WG fluted bezel G series 2010 PreOwned Roman markers USD 5842 Exp II Ref 16570 Condition >9/10 Polar preowned V series 2014 Box + papers USD 4943 Black preowned M series Box + papers USD 4352 Black preowned Yr 2000 No Box No papers Certificate only USD 3775 Exp II Polar 16570 Brand New Random serial full set USD 5955 Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

15 April 2017, 01:30 AM	#7
douglasf13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: USA Posts: 5,622	The 16570 is my favorite Rolex, so I personally wouldn't do it, but you've got to go with what makes you happy.

15 April 2017, 01:33 AM	#8
chris242 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: The Bahamas Watch: 116610lv Posts: 1,078	ill probably hold out until i can just buy it without the trade in..just curious what everyones thoughts were on the trade... i do LOVE my 16570!

15 April 2017, 04:36 AM	#9
meganfox17 Banned Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Kuala Lumpur , Ma Posts: 2,011	The answer to the OP's question is Yes. Based on my own survey , the price of a brand new or preowned but unworn unsized bracelet Ref 16570 Black or Polar is a fraction more expensive than a preowned Ref 216570 Black or Polar. I dont know about situation in other countries so dont shoot the messenger ! It seems Ref 16570 is just as popular as the modern Exp II , the value of a good condition 2nd ,3rd or 4th hand isnt depreciating one bit rather it is holding its worth quite impressively. Another interesting observation I made was that if you had purchased an Exp II Ref 16750 in selected well established ADs in Kuala Lumpur , should you decide to sell it back at a later date to the same dealer, you are guaranteed money back of 90 -95% of your initial investment. No questions asked ! Rarely if you happen to come across a preowned authenticated Polar or Black dial Ref 16570 +/- Box and papers with an unabashedly higher price tag, and you ask the Seller " What are you charging so much when I get a cheaper unit elsewhere ? " .Without batting an eyelid, the Chinese Seller discloses the fact that the serial number sounds like Double Prosperity Happiness and Long Life in Mandarin , hence the " premium price ". I guess if you're a superstitious person & believe the watch would bring you good luck and ward off evil spirits , this sort of reply makes a hell lot of sense ! A couple of my Caucasian friends from another watch forum were asking me about Vintage Patina dials on the Sub & Explorer models in Malaysia. Apparently these watch collectors are hunting for the Tritium Hour Index ( Swiss T < 25 on the dial ) in South East Asian nations . Here I'll show you guys some examples ( Both are W serial but surprisingly tagged exactly at only USD $4224 dated 1996-Polar /1995-black ).I was told some of the best vintage coffee or cappucinno patina dials are found where the weather is hot and humid with plenty of sunlight so equatorial countries are a good place to start.....

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