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Volt55 · 26 July 2017, 10:04 AM

This thread is amazing. I can't wait to see how this one plays out.

jerseyden · 26 July 2017, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by watch-guy.com

Easy to differentiate 570 from 96

Ref 96 is smaller about 32mm across whereas the ref 570 is about 36mm

J

Which is why I said "depending on diameter"

watch-guy.com · 26 July 2017, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jerseyden

Which is why I said "depending on diameter"

Prav1117 · 27 July 2017, 04:41 AM

Guys appreciate if any of you could tell me what this model is.

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jfriedkin · 27 July 2017, 10:46 PM

The watch appears real to me (based on the very poor photos). The bracelet is 18k non-PP. If you want a more original watch, sell the bracelet for scrap, you may wind up with enough to buy a PP strap and PP buckle.

Dial is PP and looks like it is developing a very nice even patina.

The watch would be either a 96 or 570.

Have a watchmaker pop off the back and take a few photos of the inside of the caseback and movement. This will give you a lot of information.

If this was your grandfathers, I doubt it is a fake!

Enjoy this family treasure.

lapince · 28 July 2017, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Prav1117

Guys appreciate if any of you could tell me what this model is.

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Not a specialist but seems fake to me, maybe I'm wrong but feels odd...

Tony64 · 28 July 2017, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lapince

Not a specialist but seems fake to me, maybe I'm wrong but feels odd...

What was the clue?

Prav1117 · 28 July 2017, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lapince

Not a specialist but seems fake to me, maybe I'm wrong but feels odd...

Nope, this is genuine. ladies 18kt, manual winding. I found the same here. This is exactly the same. But mine is in a cheap watch strap at the moment. Awaiting a genuine croc.

https://www.openforvintage.com/patek...-vintage-watch

KarlS · 28 July 2017, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prav1117

Nope, this is genuine. ladies 18kt, manual winding. I found the same here. This is exactly the same. But mine is in a cheap watch strap at the moment. Awaiting a genuine croc.

https://www.openforvintage.com/patek...-vintage-watch

Well Arnaud, guess both answers provided lol

Prav1117 · 29 July 2017, 01:28 AM

Appreciate if anyone can tell me what this model is called. i actually don't get why it was thought to be a fake. when you look at the age of this it is very unlikely to be a fake. anyway would love to know the reasons. Thanks.

Tony64 · 29 July 2017, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prav1117

Nope, this is genuine. ladies 18kt, manual winding. I found the same here. This is exactly the same. But mine is in a cheap watch strap at the moment. Awaiting a genuine croc.

https://www.openforvintage.com/patek...-vintage-watch

The link says it's quartz not manual winding, but regardless it's something I wish I could unsee.

If not fake, Patek probably would rather it be.

Prav1117 · 29 July 2017, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony64

The link says it's quartz not manual winding, but regardless it's something I wish I could unsee.

If not fake, Patek probably would rather it be.

Hi, no it must be a mistake in the link. However I found the model to be 4512.. though there are several variations.thanks

JurosCompostos · 29 July 2017, 09:45 AM

Thanks for all the opinions and information you guys gave to me. I was out in vacation, but very soon I will find out the reference number of my watch. I believe it is a real PP, but I will keep you informed...

JurosCompostos · 30 July 2017, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watch-guy.com

Easy to differentiate 570 from 96

Ref 96 is smaller about 32mm across whereas the ref 570 is about 36mm

J

It is 32mm.

JurosCompostos · 30 July 2017, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony64

If the watch proves to be real (despite its admittedly suspect pretext), then I'd service and clean the head, add a quality strap, and source a vintage buckle.
If the bracelet's gold then you could scrap it and recover a significant portion of your cost.

When all's said and done, you'll have a $7k-10k watch (rough estimate) and more importantly an excellent remembrance of your grandfather. Most would be envious.

Thx Tony! Indeed, it is a great remembrance of him. He was a very good man and I am very proud to be his great son. Probably I will never sell...;-)

JurosCompostos · 6 August 2017, 10:55 AM

Hey guys, finally I opened the case and here are the pics! I guess it is a real Patek Philippe, what do you say? Please leave your opinion:

https://ibb.co/ciQVcF
https://ibb.co/mcbE4v
https://ibb.co/kr5kBa

MILGAUSS88 · 6 August 2017, 02:40 PM

Yes, it is legit

MILGAUSS88 · 6 August 2017, 10:11 PM

Marked "ref" 96 on back, as was guessed by several people.

PJ S · 7 August 2017, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JurosCompostos

Hey guys, finally I opened the case and here are the pics! I guess it is a real Patek Philippe, what do you say? Please leave your opinion:

I told you it was a genuine Patek...

And a Reference 96 too...

JurosCompostos · 7 August 2017, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJ S

I told you it was a genuine Patek...

And a Reference 96 too...

Oh yeah!

26 July 2017, 10:04 AM	#31
Volt55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: NJ Posts: 110	This thread is amazing. I can't wait to see how this one plays out.

27 July 2017, 04:41 AM	#34
Prav1117 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Sri Lanka Posts: 7	Guys appreciate if any of you could tell me what this model is. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

27 July 2017, 10:46 PM	#35
jfriedkin "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: James Location: chicago Watch: AP, PP Posts: 353	The watch appears real to me (based on the very poor photos). The bracelet is 18k non-PP. If you want a more original watch, sell the bracelet for scrap, you may wind up with enough to buy a PP strap and PP buckle. Dial is PP and looks like it is developing a very nice even patina. The watch would be either a 96 or 570. Have a watchmaker pop off the back and take a few photos of the inside of the caseback and movement. This will give you a lot of information. If this was your grandfathers, I doubt it is a fake! Enjoy this family treasure.

29 July 2017, 01:28 AM	#40
Prav1117 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Sri Lanka Posts: 7	Appreciate if anyone can tell me what this model is called. i actually don't get why it was thought to be a fake. when you look at the age of this it is very unlikely to be a fake. anyway would love to know the reasons. Thanks.

29 July 2017, 09:45 AM	#43
JurosCompostos "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Brazil Posts: 8	Thanks for all the opinions and information you guys gave to me. I was out in vacation, but very soon I will find out the reference number of my watch. I believe it is a real PP, but I will keep you informed...

6 August 2017, 10:55 AM	#46
JurosCompostos "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Brazil Posts: 8	Hey guys, finally I opened the case and here are the pics! I guess it is a real Patek Philippe, what do you say? Please leave your opinion: https://ibb.co/ciQVcF https://ibb.co/mcbE4v https://ibb.co/kr5kBa

6 August 2017, 02:40 PM	#47
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 3,264	Yes, it is legit

6 August 2017, 10:11 PM	#48
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 3,264	Marked "ref" 96 on back, as was guessed by several people.

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