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occb2 · 14 May 2017, 02:46 PM

Ok. I am a lover of Rolex Submariners. I haven't posted here in the watch out section for awhile. This was brought up to my attention from someone who wanted to buy it and asked my opinion. I have never seen a 16800 dial like this. I have the Rolex Submariner Story book and just personal learning. I know that Rolex has the SWISS replacement dials but they don't look like this. What is everyones opinion? The guy has a 99.9% feedback. Is this a real dial or what I am thinking, it is a dial that has been repainted.

Dishpro01 · 14 May 2017, 02:48 PM

Post a picture

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occb2 · 14 May 2017, 02:50 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Submar...EAAOSw7GRZCk30

LMAO. Sorry.

Mnicolini300 · 14 May 2017, 02:51 PM

I don't see a pic of the dial

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occb2 · 14 May 2017, 02:54 PM

I am trying to just upload a picture from the ebay link.

occb2 · 14 May 2017, 02:56 PM

The dial looks redone or something. It is not a 16800 dial. Am I wrong? I just don't know what to message the guy selling it.

Mnicolini300 · 14 May 2017, 02:57 PM

100% refinished

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occb2 · 14 May 2017, 03:02 PM

Ok. Thanks. I will message the guy.

hugop · 14 May 2017, 03:02 PM

Evening R, good eye! The extended description states that the dial is aftermarket.

From the ad...

"After Market Black Luminous Index Dial with the date at the 3 o'clock"

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occb2 · 14 May 2017, 03:15 PM

Wow. I missed that! Thanks. No need to message the guy then. Thanks.

eswilly · 14 May 2017, 09:28 PM

If it's a aftermarket dial then is it priced right? Pay $4500 and add a proper dial or offer $4000???

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GLADIATOR · 15 May 2017, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mnicolini300

100% refinished

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Not even refinished but "after-market"
A

powerfunk · 15 May 2017, 12:36 AM

Reported. "Aftermarket dial" = counterfeit dial in my book

GLADIATOR · 15 May 2017, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerfunk

Reported. "Aftermarket dial" = counterfeit dial in my book

100% agree.
However, I dont personally report as seller clearly states it, and there are far more and worse items to report.
But that is just me.
Seller is honest
adam

powerfunk · 15 May 2017, 12:57 AM

The audacity of the seller to call a watch with a counterfeit dial "certified" really rubs me the wrong way. Clearly an attempt to fleece noob buyers. This is exactly what the "authenticity disclaimer" option is for imho

GLADIATOR · 15 May 2017, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerfunk

The audacity of the seller to call a watch with a counterfeit dial "certified" really rubs me the wrong way. Clearly an attempt to fleece noob buyers. This is exactly what the "authenticity disclaimer" option is for imho

I could not see where he states "certified" - but I do not think he (or eBay) will think he is dishonest.
On everything BUT the dial he writes ROLEX while the dial he does not mention Rolex, but just "after market"

I am not saying it does not contravene trade mark laws, but I do not think seller is in any way being dishonest or trying to "dupe" anyone

Thats just my opinion
adam

powerfunk · 15 May 2017, 01:10 AM

"Certified" is right there on the images. It's also a bit misleading to call something "aftermarket" if it has a brand name falsely written on it. That's straight counterfeit. I disagree that he's "in no way being dishonest," but I see your point. Seems to me they're actively attempting to be as dishonest as they can get away with.

Honza · 18 November 2017, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerfunk

"Certified" is right there on the images. It's also a bit misleading to call something "aftermarket" if it has a brand name falsely written on it. That's straight counterfeit. I disagree that he's "in no way being dishonest," but I see your point. Seems to me they're actively attempting to be as dishonest as they can get away with.

Agree, I was looking on the item as well and was wondering if its not real. My gut feeling was right.

And the listing is still up...

14 May 2017, 02:46 PM	#1
occb2 Banned Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Robert Location: New York Watch: Submariner 16610 Posts: 321	Rolex 16800 Ok. I am a lover of Rolex Submariners. I haven't posted here in the watch out section for awhile. This was brought up to my attention from someone who wanted to buy it and asked my opinion. I have never seen a 16800 dial like this. I have the Rolex Submariner Story book and just personal learning. I know that Rolex has the SWISS replacement dials but they don't look like this. What is everyones opinion? The guy has a 99.9% feedback. Is this a real dial or what I am thinking, it is a dial that has been repainted.

14 May 2017, 02:54 PM	#5
occb2 Banned Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Robert Location: New York Watch: Submariner 16610 Posts: 321	I am trying to just upload a picture from the ebay link. Attached Images

14 May 2017, 02:48 PM	#2
Dishpro01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Michael Location: Northern NM Watch: Rolex 16610 Posts: 181	Post a picture Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

14 May 2017, 02:50 PM	#3
occb2 Banned Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Robert Location: New York Watch: Submariner 16610 Posts: 321	http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Submar...EAAOSw7GRZCk30 LMAO. Sorry.

14 May 2017, 02:51 PM	#4
Mnicolini300 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Marco Nicolini Location: Dallas Watch: 16610 LV Posts: 557	I don't see a pic of the dial Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

14 May 2017, 02:56 PM	#6
occb2 Banned Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Robert Location: New York Watch: Submariner 16610 Posts: 321	The dial looks redone or something. It is not a 16800 dial. Am I wrong? I just don't know what to message the guy selling it.

14 May 2017, 02:57 PM	#7
Mnicolini300 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Marco Nicolini Location: Dallas Watch: 16610 LV Posts: 557	100% refinished Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

14 May 2017, 03:02 PM	#8
occb2 Banned Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Robert Location: New York Watch: Submariner 16610 Posts: 321	Ok. Thanks. I will message the guy.

14 May 2017, 03:02 PM	#9
hugop "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: East Coast Posts: 55	Evening R, good eye! The extended description states that the dial is aftermarket. From the ad... "After Market Black Luminous Index Dial with the date at the 3 o'clock" Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

14 May 2017, 03:15 PM	#10
occb2 Banned Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Robert Location: New York Watch: Submariner 16610 Posts: 321	Wow. I missed that! Thanks. No need to message the guy then. Thanks.

14 May 2017, 09:28 PM	#11
eswilly "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Boca Raton Posts: 17	If it's a aftermarket dial then is it priced right? Pay $4500 and add a proper dial or offer $4000??? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

15 May 2017, 12:36 AM	#13
powerfunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Rob Location: Boston, MA Watch: 1530 Posts: 3,802	Reported. "Aftermarket dial" = counterfeit dial in my book

15 May 2017, 12:57 AM	#15
powerfunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Rob Location: Boston, MA Watch: 1530 Posts: 3,802	The audacity of the seller to call a watch with a counterfeit dial "certified" really rubs me the wrong way. Clearly an attempt to fleece noob buyers. This is exactly what the "authenticity disclaimer" option is for imho

15 May 2017, 01:10 AM	#17
powerfunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Rob Location: Boston, MA Watch: 1530 Posts: 3,802	"Certified" is right there on the images. It's also a bit misleading to call something "aftermarket" if it has a brand name falsely written on it. That's straight counterfeit. I disagree that he's "in no way being dishonest," but I see your point. Seems to me they're actively attempting to be as dishonest as they can get away with.

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