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MilgaussBe · 10 December 2017, 07:33 PM

Hi all, I met a friend this week sporting what I thought at first sight was a smurf WG Submariner date.

As a fellow WIS I asked to see the watch up close. I immediately saw brushed links. And was asking myself Rolex does only make blue dail and bezel in WG or YG on the Sub!?! I told this to my friend SS 116610 Sub date with blue dail and bezel aren't made by Rolex.

He said he had the watch on loan/temp trade in with his Speedmaster from a friend of his who is a collector. Told me I couldn't be a fake from this person came right out of his safe and that he's an avid collector from a wealthy family.

I inspected the watch and it looked real, all fonts/postitioning, engravings, cyclops looked ok to me. Sweep of secondhand also looked fine. Font inner clasp I have my doubt real lookes a bit finer but not sure. Felt quite heavy also for a SS Sub my GMT Blnr feels lighter.

Don't have any pics...

Really convincing fake or dial/bezel swap on a SS? Or maybe a WG with SS brushed bracelet?

It really intrigued me, I'll have to ask some pics.

antrolexsub · 10 December 2017, 08:12 PM

That's a 'how long is a piece of string' question. Impossible to tell without pictures of the watch in question.

Canook · 11 December 2017, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antrolexsub

That's a 'how long is a piece of string' question. Impossible to tell without pictures of the watch in question.

equal distance from the center to both ends lol! (sorry couldnt resist)

And as stated above ... no pics ... no idea

ttnpb · 11 December 2017, 02:48 PM

I see similar stuff all the time on ebay.

"custom" dial.

ttnpb · 11 December 2017, 02:49 PM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Subma...IAAOSw6WFZ-g5-

just an example.

16610 w a fake dial and questionable insert.

You · 11 December 2017, 04:22 PM

We need pics

antrolexsub · 11 December 2017, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canook

equal distance from the center to both ends lol! (sorry couldnt resist)

And as stated above ... no pics ... no idea

CBG1 · 12 December 2017, 03:19 PM

Seems there are many customs out there like this, I have a habit of watching them in eBay. Most usually all with fake/aftermarket serti dials and some sort of fake ceramic blue bezel insert. Some occasionally claim they have the OEM 116619 Smurf bezel and dial swapped in (what happened to the rest of the donor OEM Smurf though would cause me to wonder ...). It's tempting, because it seems this would be an insanely popular model (maybe 2018 holds at least a blue bezel black dial or vice versa 116610 in store for us?), but ultimately, a blue SS is not 100% auth.

10 December 2017, 07:33 PM	#1
MilgaussBe "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: EU Watch: GV Z-blue/BLNR Posts: 210	SS 116610 Blue bezel/Dail? Hi all, I met a friend this week sporting what I thought at first sight was a smurf WG Submariner date. As a fellow WIS I asked to see the watch up close. I immediately saw brushed links. And was asking myself Rolex does only make blue dail and bezel in WG or YG on the Sub!?! I told this to my friend SS 116610 Sub date with blue dail and bezel aren't made by Rolex. He said he had the watch on loan/temp trade in with his Speedmaster from a friend of his who is a collector. Told me I couldn't be a fake from this person came right out of his safe and that he's an avid collector from a wealthy family. I inspected the watch and it looked real, all fonts/postitioning, engravings, cyclops looked ok to me. Sweep of secondhand also looked fine. Font inner clasp I have my doubt real lookes a bit finer but not sure. Felt quite heavy also for a SS Sub my GMT Blnr feels lighter. Don't have any pics... Really convincing fake or dial/bezel swap on a SS? Or maybe a WG with SS brushed bracelet? It really intrigued me, I'll have to ask some pics.

10 December 2017, 08:12 PM	#2
antrolexsub "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Earth Posts: 766	That's a 'how long is a piece of string' question. Impossible to tell without pictures of the watch in question.

11 December 2017, 02:48 PM	#4
ttnpb "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: So Cal Watch: 16803 Posts: 144	I see similar stuff all the time on ebay. "custom" dial.

11 December 2017, 02:49 PM	#5
ttnpb "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: So Cal Watch: 16803 Posts: 144	https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Subma...IAAOSw6WFZ-g5- just an example. 16610 w a fake dial and questionable insert.

11 December 2017, 04:22 PM	#6
You "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Beverly Hills, CA Watch: Platinum Daytona Posts: 785	We need pics

12 December 2017, 03:19 PM	#8
CBG1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: California Posts: 58	Seems there are many customs out there like this, I have a habit of watching them in eBay. Most usually all with fake/aftermarket serti dials and some sort of fake ceramic blue bezel insert. Some occasionally claim they have the OEM 116619 Smurf bezel and dial swapped in (what happened to the rest of the donor OEM Smurf though would cause me to wonder ...). It's tempting, because it seems this would be an insanely popular model (maybe 2018 holds at least a blue bezel black dial or vice versa 116610 in store for us?), but ultimately, a blue SS is not 100% auth.

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