Ebay seller "Estate Finds"

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by Cryptoconniption

I just bid 15k on this. You guys are SURE it's fake, right? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Oyste...19.m1438.l2649

That watch is as fake as a three dollar bill.

Let's just hope for your sake that someone else with deeper pockets than you is as ill-informed as you.

Look closely at the blowup of the picture below on ebay and compare with any one of the myriad authentic Rolex watches on this site, or better yet, the Rolex site.

[eelpie]

Originally Posted by Cryptoconniption

Why do you say 20-30 min? We've been reporting these for days.

I know a guy who knows a guy.

I've gotten about a dozen or so auctions removed today, including seven from one guy who was selling Cartiers with rhinestone-set bezels (!), and thirty minutes is usually the longest I have to wait . . .

[Cryptoconniption]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

That watch is as fake as a three dollar bill.

Let's just hope for your sake that someone else with deeper pockets than you is as ill-informed as you.

Look closely at the blowup of the picture below on ebay and compare with any one of the myriad authentic Rolex watches on this site, or better yet, the Rolex site.

I've bid 17k on three of them. I'm worried about doing all of them but I might. Otherwise someone is going to get robbed. Can't let that happen right under our noses.

[eelpie]

Originally Posted by Cryptoconniption

I've bid 17k on three of them. I'm worried about doing all of them but I might. Otherwise someone is going to get robbed. Can't let that happen right under our noses.

I'd think you'd run a greater risk of getting dinged for shill bidding than of having to pay for anything.

I've just asked the seller for a guarantee of authenticity on the brown Sub, and when he declines, I will forward his response to eBay.

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by Cryptoconniption

I've bid 17k on three of them. I'm worried about doing all of them but I might. Otherwise someone is going to get robbed. Can't let that happen right under our noses.

So, there's no doubt in your mind that these are fake?

[Cryptoconniption]

Originally Posted by eelpie

I'd think you'd run a greater risk of getting dinged for shill bidding than of having to pay for anything.

I've just asked the seller for a guarantee of authenticity on the brown Sub, and when he declines, I will forward his response to eBay.

I'm not really worried about paying. Also, he writes in his listing that he can't guarantee the authenticity which in itself is not allowed on ebay so i can use that as my excuse.

[eelpie]

Originally Posted by Cryptoconniption

I'm not really worried about paying. Also, he writes in his listing that he can't guarantee the authenticity which in itself is not allowed on ebay so i can use that as my excuse.

Yeah, you have no exposure, and I've now filed more than my share of reports.

In my response to his unwillingness to guarantee authenticity, I familiarized him with the concept of multiple felony fraud charges.

Now we'll see if he has the courage of his convictions . . .

[Valenciawatchrepair]

I've messaged this guy twice. Simply asking about authenticity. He does reply stating that he doesn't know. But then when I reply back that I am in watch repair and know 100% that these are fake....Silence.

[eelpie]

Originally Posted by Valenciawatchrepair

But then when I reply back that I am in watch repair and know 100% that these are fake....Silence.

Of course he knows they're moody. I sent him this: Wouldn't logic dictate that if you thought you had $40,000 worth of real Rolexes, you'd make an effort to authenticate?

I've seen a hundred of these guys. They're caught dead to rights, but they're not smart enough / too greedy to grasp they'll never see the money.

If he understood he'd get suspended, he'd take them down. Instead, he's got all his fingers and toes crossed, hoping he'll get across the finish line before the axe comes down.

I almost feel sorry for someone as stupid and greedy as he is.

[You]

Sad to see that these are still up.

[eelpie]

. . . sympathy.


He says he works 60 hours a week on three businesses supporting his wife and three kids. I told him I don't care about him, his family or his businesses, but I do care about the people bidding on his trash.

He says he's been as honest as he can be, but I informed him the statement, "Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing" negates any caveat he cooks up about authenticity.

I said, "I know the watches are fakes, you know they're fakes, eBay has received numerous reports on them, and I can guarantee you you'll never get one penny from those auctions.

What you will get is suspended, and possibly fined or incarcerated."

Sadly, he's an illiterate ("I have took one to a local pawn shop") idiot who only sees the bids on the auctions, but reality is coming his way . . .

[Cryptoconniption]

Ive bid $17k on each of the first three that are ending soonest - if anybody wants to overbid on the others that would be a relief. Don't bid on any with the high bidder U***M. That's me!

On one of the auctions there are over 100 watchers. I wonder how many of those people are watching in horror?

Ebay really dropped the ball on this one. 12 hours left to go before someone has a very bad Christmas surprise.

[eelpie]

Originally Posted by Cryptoconniption

eBay really dropped the ball on this one. 12 hours left to go before someone has a very bad Christmas surprise.

For reasons I cannot explain, eBay gets jammed on a deal like this about once a week.

Usually their report-takers understand the part about 'if he thought it was real, he'd authenticate' or 'zero feed-back seller who registered yesterday is offering a $30K Rolex for $800', but every once in a while, they suffer brain fade, and these sorts of things need to be settled in California instead of the sub-continent.

I have assured the seller that he will never see penny one from these auctions, but he's clinging to the hope that his lame 'I don't know it they're authentic' defense will let him keep the cash.

Even if someone were to pay him, eBay would cover their loses, and then he'd have to deal with eBay chasing him, which I'm pretty sure nobody would want.

I find the seller funny and sad in equal parts, and I marvel at how people can justify trying to steal from strangers in order to satisfy what little they have in the way of a conscience.

[Cryptoconniption]

Originally Posted by eelpie

For reasons I cannot explain, eBay gets jammed on a deal like this about once a week.

Usually their report-takers understand the part about 'if he thought it was real, he'd authenticate' or 'zero feed-back seller who registered yesterday is offering a $30K Rolex for $800', but every once in a while, they suffer brain fade, and these sorts of things need to be settled in California instead of the sub-continent.

I have assured the seller that he will never see penny one from these auctions, but he's clinging to the hope that his lame 'I don't know it they're authentic' defense will let him keep the cash.

Even if someone were to pay him, eBay would cover their loses, and then he'd have to deal with eBay chasing him, which I'm pretty sure nobody would want.

I find the seller funny and sad in equal parts, and I marvel at how people can justify trying to steal from strangers in order to satisfy what little they have in the way of a conscience.

The worrying thing is that someone won't know they have a fake, or if and when they do, it might be too late to do anything about it.

You really have to wonder who is bidding on these things with the caveat the seller put in the description.

[eelpie]

Originally Posted by Cryptoconniption

The worrying thing is that someone won't know they have a fake, or if and when they do, it might be too late to do anything about it.

You really have to wonder who is bidding on these things with the caveat the seller put in the description.

The seller is counting on bidders to look at his feed-back (based almost entirely on purchases in this case) and assume he's honest.

The bidders are blinded by the possibility that they could have found that one hidden nugget (aka: greed). Many, however, have never even heard of a replica Rolex.

eBay is complicit in not having an algorithm that picks out aberrations in selling patterns. When a seller who has been selling buttons for five years goes dark, and then comes back a year later with a raft of Rolexes, someone should be alerted.

And that is where the people on this board come in . . .

[Jackey tam]

Dear god do i feel sorry for the guy who gets any of these watches

Edit : reported this guy

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by eelpie

The seller is counting on bidders to look at his feed-back (based almost entirely on purchases in this case) and assume he's honest.

The bidders are blinded by the possibility that they could have found that one hidden nugget (aka: greed). Many, however, have never even heard of a replica Rolex.

eBay is complicit in not having an algorithm that picks out aberrations in selling patterns. When a seller who has been selling buttons for five years goes dark, and then comes back a year later with a raft of Rolexes, someone should be alerted.

And that is where the people on this board come in . . .

If sold we can try to get annulled on Monday
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[Valenciawatchrepair]

Uhh these things are ending! Not one has been pulled. Insane.

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[eelpie]

Originally Posted by Valenciawatchrepair

Uhh these things are ending! Not one has been pulled. Insane.

. . . will get stitched up, but if they do, it's down to eBay.

If they're unable or unwilling to act on good information, they can deal with the fallout.

You can only do what you can do, and no more.

[Masteryacht]

I reported that bluesy TT submariner twice. eBay just sent me an email saying an item I’m interested in is ending soon. Yep, with a link to the fake sub that is now at $7200.

[Canook]

well they are still working because ive had 2 other fake rolexs removed... so it appears they are ignoring these..... ive reported them all twice

[breitlings]

even the oyster date that is real is misrepresented. i asked seller to show mobements. he devlined.

[Onikage]

God I hope no one buys any of that rubbish. This guy is out to ruin people's Christmas. The Ottoman knife thing looks Vintage Chinamade circa last week.

[jbarolex]

Reported..

[Valenciawatchrepair]

Wonder how this will eventually turn out. Scratching my head, because listings that we've reported less than 24 hours ago, especially on NON-US sides of ebay, were pulled extremely quickly.

[GLADIATOR]

Its mighty weired - more than you can understand
adam

[frankoman]

Maybe police are in on it wanting transactions to go through to have more of a concrete fraud charge - hoping this is case. That guy is slime.

[eelpie]

. . . they should take care of it pretty smartly.

[GLADIATOR]

The explorer is still up.
I think the rest sold, hence dont show

[GradyPhilpott]

I got an email yesterday reminding me that the auction on one of those POSes was ending in a few hours.

That's twice now that I've gotten one of those after having reported the piece.