Why Coke will be in SS IMHO in Basel 2018!!!

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Maxy

I firmly believe that Coke will be produced in Stainless Steel and will be unveiled this Baselworld. The reason? Here's my thoughts.

Rolex ceramic bezels is easier to make in single color and most easy being the Black (default) color. Then to add HALF a circle is next challenge which is easy if other half is black. So, this way making BLNR was not that difficult. It has just half BLUE circle. If you make Coke bezel, that blue will be replaced with Red and instead it will have half RED circle. So, if you can do BLNR, you can easily do Coke(with minor issue of red shade).

If you compare these 2 watches, both appears to be from same set with just Blue or Red options. So, I expect both these to be part of Stainless Steel.

Pepsi on the other hand is more difficult to make as it involves two colors(Blue/Red) and very few chances of getting it right hence it was available in WG at the start. The watch was fine but it wasn't the huge seller it was expected. So, they are doing the next option, to go better sales route a-la Sky Dweller in SS and now launching Coke in SS. If launching Coke in SS, it is better to just discontinue WG in Pepsi so it doesn't overlap in the collection and appears matching to other SS GMT Master II. Now, GMT Master II has 2 huge icons and best sellers in BLNR and Coke.

Pepsi will still hold that unique position of WG discontinued watch and it will never be available in SS ever. This goes with Rolex way of things and nothing out of pattern.

So, in 5-digits we used to have 3 options in GMT Master II.
- Black, Red/Black, Red/Blue

Now, in 6-digit we will have 3 options as
- Black, Blue/Black, Red/Black.

Interesting points, however on the Pepsi bezel, red is the base colour. So to say a red/black bezel is easy may not be correct

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=523760

[Bruins7]

Doubtful, but interesting points.

[bbressler]

Originally Posted by Carrera_2

Anything is possible with Rolex. But what my AD in town said regarding the GMT-Master II is that at this Basel, there is a possibility that Rolex will discontinued the white gold GMT-Master and the LN will lost the green hand and being replaced with the red hand with the white letter instead of the green. But this is only my AD guessing since he said Rolex do not taking order on those two at the moment. But if it discontinued or not, wait till Basel 2018.

First we’ve heard of the LN not being available for order as well. Very interesting, if true!

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Carrera_2

... the LN will lost the green hand and being replaced with the red hand with the white letter instead of the green...he said Rolex do not taking order on those two at the moment.

Which LN? That designation applies to four out of the six GMT models: both YG, the TT, and the SS.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by bbressler

First we’ve heard of the LN not being available for order as well. Very interesting, if true!

Indeed if LN is not available to order, makes the RONR more likely.

[scrappy]

Realizing I'm in the minority here, but I hope they make the Coke in WG. If not, there won't be any WG GMT option in their collection (assuming they discontinue the Pepsi).

[Onikage]

Originally Posted by Dynamite_Kid19

Correct, the red is the issue. Lighter colors are harder to make, that is why the red ceramic used in watches is usually a more burgundy and I've only seen 2 other companies that do it, pictures to compare to Rolex red. Rolex is first that I've seen manufacture red that looked red, but note how deep still is. I also read when around the time they released the Pepsi that they do not use upwards of half of the bezels produced because they do not look right as the color is off or bled together.

I've also read the lighter the color, the easier it is to see imperfections in the uniformity of the color also.

I've seen a vapor watch of the micro brand Hager on their Instagram which is below but I haven't seen anyone who has 1 in the wild and their site has a wait list with no ETA (Actually an ETA movement, ah watch humor) with a ceramic Pepsi bezel.

I think it will be sometime until anyone replicates Rolex's Pepsi or anyone, including Rolex produces a Coke.

The Pepsi and a Coke would probably finish my collection for life.

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Informative post.

[evo63]

To me the pre-Basel speculation threads are some of the most enjoyable and interesting of the year. It makes the anticipation of the reveal on the opening day of Basel build up tremendously. I am a GMT guy, have had one for almost 30 years, although not the same one.

DavidSW worked with me and I managed to get a WG BLRO a little more than a year ago and it has been my daily watch since. Contrary to what some have indicated, not all of us who purchased a WG BLRO will be put off if Rolex decides to release a SS Pepsi version. On the contrary, I will be quite happy no matter what metal/bezel combination we see in a few weeks.

Cheers!

[yannis]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

Custom as in ordered that way from Rolex. This specific watch was discussed in another thread. I'll see if I can dig it up.

Originally Posted by kilyung

You have it backwards. You can order a WG SkD with the stick dial, making it look similar to the SS model. You CANNOT order the Roman dial in a SS model to make it look like a WG model.

Hey thanks for the info gents. I stand corrected then.

[River]

Originally Posted by toneafficianado

An SS coke would be GREAT and I'd be tempted.

I have Blnr which I love but would eventually add a red/black if it was available.

As long as the red was RED.

I guess we'll know in a few weeks if it's this year that that will happen!

I second this.


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[jets]

If we forget about the manufacturing challenges for a moment and just focus on marketing/goals here's my thoughts regarding any Coke variant being released. Let's just note that the only colors Rolex has made in ceramic (that I can recall) are black, brown, blue, green, and red.

Either Rolex wants more sales and puts out a SS Coke OR Rolex wants more exclusivity and puts out a Platinum Coke. I can't see it happening in WG since it's been taken by the Pepsi. Certain models get exclusive dial/bezel colors and based a quick look an observer can tell what type of metal the watch is made from. See a pepsi you know WG, Green is SS sub, Blue is a WG sub and so on. Perhaps if we see Coke we'll know it's Platinum?

Here's my thinking. If the sub line is used as a template the only one that gets an exclusive WG color is the smurf. Move onto the GMT line and pepsi is the smurf GMT WG counterpart. I'd like to think that a SS version will be released bringing back 3 SS variants like they did with 5 digit GMTs but I think Rolex wants to be more prestigious moving forward and pay homage to the previous generation. This can be done by making a Coke special as a Platinum model. I think it's plausible since the GMT was never meant to be a tool watch. A jet set professional could swing a Platinum GMT just like they can a Platona.

Perhaps the 3rd SS variant will be a new color combo as we saw in the BLNR for this generation of SS GMT's... My guess is green/black bezel for a new SS GMT. Around 2007 we got the blue sub and years later blue/black GMT. We've had the green sub for a while and now perhaps it's time for the green/black GMT. If we go out of left field they may even surprise everyone and release a ceramic TT root beer GMT!

Get the popcorn Basil is coming

[jonnyz1245]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

It's not a rumor thread. It's a speculation thread. The sky's the limit.

[ALF61]

Originally Posted by jonnyz1245

Ditto. Anyone here thinks that Rolex browses these threads to get ideas or somehow gauge the market and interest for a certain watch or do they know it all already ?

[Jeffreyc87]

Originally Posted by Dynamite_Kid19

Correct, the red is the issue. Lighter colors are harder to make, that is why the red ceramic used in watches is usually a more burgundy and I've only seen 2 other companies that do it, pictures to compare to Rolex red. Rolex is first that I've seen manufacture red that looked red, but note how deep still is. I also read when around the time they released the Pepsi that they do not use upwards of half of the bezels produced because they do not look right as the color is off or bled together.

I've also read the lighter the color, the easier it is to see imperfections in the uniformity of the color also.

I've seen a vapor watch of the micro brand Hager on their Instagram which is below but I haven't seen anyone who has 1 in the wild and their site has a wait list with no ETA (Actually an ETA movement, ah watch humor) with a ceramic Pepsi bezel.

I think it will be sometime until anyone replicates Rolex's Pepsi or anyone, including Rolex produces a Coke.

The Pepsi and a Coke would probably finish my collection for life.

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Awesome post....this is the most practical post anyone has posted.

Showing what other watch companies have been trying to do with ceramic bezels....showing the limits of the types of red that can be produced...and showing that only Rolex has figured out a way to blend.

I love my BLRO. I realize it doesn't the pop of the older 5 digit aluminum BLROS. But, its the best there is and the best they can produce given the limits.

I don't think they are going to improve the colors and then offer them on an SS pepsi....or even an SS coke......red and black is difficult because it has to start off as red.....then turn to black.

A lot of people don't like the colors of the BLRO and I understand but if this is the best they can do...there is no other choice.

And, I think you need to see one in person AND view it in natural sunlight or with a flashlight shining on it....it really pops to better colors....

I love mine and if one came out in SS it wouldn't matter to me because the heft of the PM is why I bought it.

I think it will be sometime until anyone replicates Rolex's Pepsi or anyone, including Rolex produces a Coke.

[JElvis]

Forget ceramic! Just release coke with a aluminum! I don't care! would love to have a brand new coke, updated case, movement, clasp.... just use a aluminum! I would buy it immediately... this is sure to be an unpopular post. but c'est la vie