Patek 5180/1R

[Chiboy]

Saw one at an AD today along with a double split. Not sure if these are hard to get or not, but they ain't cheap! The double split was around 1/4 mil.

[thomaspp]

What’s a double split? 5370?


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[Chiboy]

Originally Posted by thomaspp

What’s a double split? 5370?


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I think so.

[thomaspp]

Originally Posted by Chiboy

I think so.

Got it... frankly (and maybe this is an uninformed view) nothing seems all that hard to get other than steel nautilus and 5131P....


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[goog53]

This beast was just sitting in a case or is this something that was pulled from the back?



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[Chiboy]

Sitting in the case. I didn’t know what it was but the salesperson (who isn’t yet trained in PP) said it was a double split and that is was $250k. If someone is interested, I can go back and shoot a picture of it and confirm.

[thomaspp]

Originally Posted by Chiboy

Sitting in the case. I didn’t know what it was but the salesperson (who isn’t yet trained in PP) said it was a double split and that is was $250k. If someone is interested, I can go back and shoot a picture of it and confirm.

What country was this in?

So this is a very special application Watch sitting in an AD window for sale....

[dlesin]

I just bought a 5180 the other day. They're rare but they are indeed floating around at AD's. As for the 5370 it was definitely ordered in as in application so it's very rare to see it just sitting in the display.

[Chiboy]

Originally Posted by thomaspp

What country was this in?

So this is a very special application Watch sitting in an AD window for sale....

USA, but as I said, I am not knowledgeable on these grand complications, and neither was the salesperson. She was behind the Rolex counter and said she had gone through six months of Patek training but wasn't there yet. So between us, there was a lot of room for misinterpretation or bad information. They did have some annual calendars and perpetual calendars, but this, along with some $180k Patek and the 5180 were in a special wall unit. I can enquire if someone is really interested. I should also say that it is possible the watch was sold, but was being shown until it was picked up. I didn't ask and they didn't offer to take it out for me.

Sorry my info is so sketchy.

[soundserious]

Whoa amazing watch and amazing price. Love the black dial and Breguet numerals, and that movement!

[Sam Philip]

Originally Posted by thomaspp

What country was this in?

So this is a very special application Watch sitting in an AD window for sale....

I have seen 5370P and 5204P on two separate occasions at the same AD chain in the UK. I was told the company invested on those pieces. I have seen the 5180/1R as well. 5131P and the rare handcraft pieces are the difficult ones to obtain these days.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Sam Philip

I have seen 5370P and 5204P on two separate occasions at the same AD chain in the UK. I was told the company invested on those pieces. I have seen the 5180/1R as well. 5131P and the rare handcraft pieces are the difficult ones to obtain these days.

please do let me know if you see them again. 5370P in particular i would love to see in real life.

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by thomaspp

What’s a double split? 5370?


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5370 is only a single split.
Only Lange & Sohne makes a Double Split and now since SIHH a Triple Split.

[codecow]

That is an application piece so either it’s sold or the buyer backed out.

[lapince]

The 5370 is an application piece??? Thought it was a normal one...

[lapince]

Originally Posted by Russell996

5370 is only a single split.
Only Lange & Sohne makes a Double Split and now since SIHH a Triple Split.

Pardon my ignorance Russell, but if 5370 is single, with 2 second hands, double means 3 second hands and triple means 4 hands???
Of does it work differently?
Oh ok I just looked at the Lange and it does have 3 rattrapante hands, just in 2 sub dials. Interesting but not the kind of watch I would get myself, I mean I don’t even have a chrono, so a triple split? No, but very interesting nonetheless

[Chiboy]

Originally Posted by lapince

Pardon my ignorance Russell, but if 5370 is single, with 2 second hands, double means 3 second hands and triple means 4 hands???
Of does it work differently?

I believe the double split means two second hands but also two 30-minute hands, and the triple is two seconds/30-minute/hour timers.

[jon_jon]

There are ADs that have the 5204/5370. From what I gather, some ADs order it for a client and the client backs out. And other ADs are able to order them on their own. Although these are technically application pieces, policies of the local Patek distributor seem to vary quite a bit from Asia to Europe to the US.

The 5180 used to be an "application piece" as well, although I am not sure if this is still true as I have seen them at AD window displays.

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by Chiboy

I believe the double split means two second hands but also two 30-minute hands, and the triple is two seconds/30-minute/hour timers.

Single split (split second chronograph) is the ability to time two different events but only in seconds - so this will have 2 seconds hands for timing which run together until split. Many manufacturers have split second chronos.

Double split is the ability to time two different events with seconds and minutes - so this will have 2 seconds hands for timing which run together until split and then 2 minutes hands that run together until split. Only Lange & Sohne make a Double Split.

Triple split is the ability to time two different events with seconds, minutes and hours - so this will have 2 seconds hands for timing which run together until split and then 2 minutes hands that run together until split and finally 2 hour hands that run together until split. Only Lange & Sohne make a Triple Split.

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by lapince

Pardon my ignorance Russell, but if 5370 is single, with 2 second hands, double means 3 second hands and triple means 4 hands???
Of does it work differently?
Oh ok I just looked at the Lange and it does have 3 rattrapante hands, just in 2 sub dials. Interesting but not the kind of watch I would get myself, I mean I don’t even have a chrono, so a triple split? No, but very interesting nonetheless

[goog53]

Originally Posted by jon_jon

There are ADs that have the 5204/5370. From what I gather, some ADs order it for a client and the client backs out. And other ADs are able to order them on their own. Although these are technically application pieces, policies of the local Patek distributor seem to vary quite a bit from Asia to Europe to the US.

The 5180 used to be an "application piece" as well, although I am not sure if this is still true as I have seen them at AD window displays.

I was under the impression 5180/1G was application piece and hard to get. It is a beautiful watch. I was surpised when I saw the 5180/1R at Tourneau in Vegas in December and was told by the manager that to the piece just came in with their monthly shipment.

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by goog53

I was under the impression 5180/1G was application piece and hard to get. It is a beautiful watch. I was surpised when I saw the 5180/1R at Tourneau in Vegas in December and was told by the manager that to the piece just came in with their monthly shipment.

It is an AD application piece not a customer application piece. AD's can register an interest and then might get an allocation. (at least in the UK it is)

[thomaspp]

You have to love the irony here: 5370P in the window and 5711 1/a nowhere in sight! Lol


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[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by thomaspp

You have to love the irony here: 5370P in the window and 5711 1/a nowhere in sight! Lol


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