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CorradoBrit · 6 July 2018, 01:14 PM

If he can't give you the transaction number or a screen shot of the receipt then he's screwing you around. The 4th Holiday maybe delaying the process a little. You should have a confirmation one way or another within the next 18 hours.

Al1969 · 6 July 2018, 01:30 PM

Best of luck in getting your money back OP.
As others have said, entirely too many “excuses” being made by the seller.

I noticed the majority of his threads are FS threads, but he’s not a pledge member.
I thought you must become a pledge member PRIOR to selling.

CorradoBrit · 6 July 2018, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gaoxing84

4,000 usd

Wait. All this stress for only $4K. He doesn't have funds on hand to cover that?

PLNYC · 6 July 2018, 02:18 PM

Good luck, OP

gaoxing84 · 6 July 2018, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

Wait. All this stress for only $4K. He doesn't have funds on hand to cover that?

That's half of the funds.
Total is 8.5k.

gaoxing84 · 6 July 2018, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Al1969

Best of luck in getting your money back OP.
As others have said, entirely too many “excuses” being made by the seller.

I noticed the majority of his threads are FS threads, but he’s not a pledge member.
I thought you must become a pledge member PRIOR to selling.

He was a pledge member in 2017

gaoxing84 · 6 July 2018, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

If he can't give you the transaction number or a screen shot of the receipt then he's screwing you around. The 4th Holiday maybe delaying the process a little. You should have a confirmation one way or another within the next 18 hours.

He called earlier on and said he will send me a transaction number or screenshot but it's been 4 hours and I haven't get anything.

JayB · 6 July 2018, 06:51 PM

I do find this a little strange, if this was me owing someone money I would have contacted them the minute I sent the transfer also providing proof and not wait until it's requested.

Also don't like that he is sending half the funds. Go and get a loan and return everything owed. This should and could have been sorted out long before now

He really needs to have a good look at how he conducts himself as he comes across very amateur to me

Keep us updated and hope you get everything back soon

Humble michael · 6 July 2018, 09:03 PM

Hey Op you are being played as a fool! Start any legal proceedings now! This is way beyond reason and this man is a Con and a crook! You have given him plenty of time - why you would say you are happy it has worked out is beyond me - you have no money from this crook.The longer you wait to take action the les your chances of seeing anything from him.

Aquahallic · 7 July 2018, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JayB

I do find this a little strange, if this was me owing someone money I would have contacted them the minute I sent the transfer also providing proof and not wait until it's requested.

Also don't like that he is sending half the funds. Go and get a loan and return everything owed. This should and could have been sorted out long before now

He really needs to have a good look at how he conducts himself as he comes across very amateur to me

Keep us updated and hope you get everything back soon

He couldn't even get a loan to buy a sub date to flip to the op. This guy is a typical scammer and needed some cash and found the mark.

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DARK_KNIGHT · 7 July 2018, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by james272

Hey Op you are being played as a fool! Start any legal proceedings now! This is way beyond reason and this man is a Con and a crook! You have given him plenty of time - why you would say you are happy it has worked out is beyond me - you have no money from this crook.The longer you wait to take action the les your chances of seeing anything from him.

Why throw good money after bad? OP willingly made a non collateralized loan. Now he is trying to collect on said loan.

gaoxing84 · 7 July 2018, 02:40 AM

sigh, all i can say is i trusted a wrong person at this moment.
end of my friday here and i still don't see crap.

next week i will log a case against him.

this is getting ridiculous

MinMay · 7 July 2018, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by gaoxing84

that's what i just asked too!

I am getting alittle impatient.

even it's 1-3 days, I don't see any holding/pending funds by the bank.
which dates into the future of 2 days which the bank holds it before releasing it to me

You said you trusted him... Anyhow, good luck.

gaoxing84 · 7 July 2018, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MinMay

A very good point. I don't understand why people think a person is good in the past will never go rogue like you stated. I read several other thread about the same behavior.
We just don't know the whole story on the other end.

It's not right. Don't wait too long to take action OP. One too many excuses....

Reporting it to FBI is going to have his name on file.

https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

Good luck.

And...all wire transaction has paper trail. Ask him for a copy of the wire receipt to AD. If he can't show proof, then he never did.

how powerful reporting him?

i am sick and tired of his games.

told me wire was done on a tuesday and it's friday and i have yet to receive any funds.

not a single cent.

gaoxing84 · 7 July 2018, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MinMay

You said you trusted him... Anyhow, good luck.

all trust is gone now.

it's done. i am reporting him to the police.

MinMay · 7 July 2018, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by gaoxing84

how powerful reporting him?

i am sick and tired of his games.

told me wire was done on a tuesday and it's friday and i have yet to receive any funds.

not a single cent.

A wire happens once per day usually in the afternoon. Now, it depends on the other side bank when to process it...usually 24 hours. Like I said, tell him to send you a picture of the wire receipt. If he can't prove it, then take legal action. His life will be ruined....that's his choice. Just do it....let people dig into his life..maybe they'll find more illegal and secret from him.

05carbondrz · 7 July 2018, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by gaoxing84

all trust is gone now.

it's done. i am reporting him to the police.

Smart Man,If He was going to make good it would already be done.

gaoxing84 · 7 July 2018, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MinMay

A wire happens once per day usually in the afternoon. Now, it depends on the other side bank when to process it...usually 24 hours. Like I said, tell him to send you a picture of the wire receipt. If he can't prove it, then take legal action. His life will be ruined....that's his choice. Just do it....let people dig into his life..maybe they'll find more illegal and secret from him.

my bank have yet to receive anything. i called and check. there's no incoming funds at all.

he called me today and told me he will provide a screenshot or proof that he has done the wire.

but after the call, he went MIA.

I am not a US citizen, will logging the report at the federal bureau help?

gaoxing84 · 7 July 2018, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 05carbondrz

Smart Man,If He was going to make good it would already be done.

that's what i thought.

i have given too many chances for him to prove to me he's trustworthy

going to report to my local police and the fbi

https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

hope this site helps

MinMay · 7 July 2018, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by gaoxing84

my bank have yet to receive anything. i called and check. there's no incoming funds at all.

he called me today and told me he will provide a screenshot or proof that he has done the wire.

but after the call, he went MIA.

I am not a US citizen, will logging the report at the federal bureau help?

Report him. Having an agent digging up his life is never a good thing in US.

TheRolexKingofLV · 7 July 2018, 03:24 AM

I'd get the authorities involved quicker than later.

This guy has more excuses than a hooker in front of a judge!

Aquahallic · 7 July 2018, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by gaoxing84

my bank have yet to receive anything. i called and check. there's no incoming funds at all.

he called me today and told me he will provide a screenshot or proof that he has done the wire.

but after the call, he went MIA.

I am not a US citizen, will logging the report at the federal bureau help?

No wonder why he did since youre not in the US.

Definitely report him to the FBI, wire fraud is a felony and unless he can prove he tried to order your watch his intentions were to commit fraud.

Also file a report with his local police. They will do more up front than the FBI will.

Good luck.

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gaoxing84 · 7 July 2018, 03:39 AM

thank you all. will gather all the information and upload in the website given.
hope for the best.

i have given my trust to him and he squander it away.

having say to have wire but i see nothing.

i think he's pretty hard up, having told me he have funds in cryptocurrency.

CorradoBrit · 7 July 2018, 03:54 AM

OP have you talked directly to dealer he was supposedly buying the watch from? That will tell you a lot? If he's unwilling to provide that info you know you've been scammed. But at this point with all the unbelievable excuses I think you know what needs to happen next. Good luck.

gaoxing84 · 7 July 2018, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

OP have you talked directly to dealer he was supposedly buying the watch from? That will tell you a lot? If he's unwilling to provide that info you know you've been scammed. But at this point with all the unbelievable excuses I think you know what needs to happen next. Good luck.

No. I have no communication to his dealer or AD at all.

I did the wire becsuse we have prior deals and it all went well.

Now, this single deal, it all went to crap.

I really hope he will return my money and close the case but I doubt it's going to happen given the amount of excuses he's been giving me.
It's weird he still calls me and update me about his situation but yet no actual action from him at all.

If he's really scamming me. He would have stop calling me and disappear.

It's so weird. It's either he really needs a loan or he's out of cash.

No idea what's going on his mind.

Going to call him one again. One final time. If nothing is done.
His name is going to records.
I let the authority handle his case

wickets · 7 July 2018, 04:26 AM

You seem very fair and very patient. I'm hoping that you get your money back. Ex the transfer receipt of funds delay, he should have no problem giving you a confirmation number.

gaoxing84 · 7 July 2018, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by wickets

You seem very fair and very patient. I'm hoping that you get your money back. Ex the transfer receipt of funds delay, he should have no problem giving you a confirmation number.

I have yet to throw a bitch fit.
He told me his story. I hear him and I am willing to wait.
Giving him more time to get it sorted out.

But time and time again, nothing was done and I haven't see anything except his calls to me to assure me about him being trustworthy.

he told me he's returning me part of the money by paying me from his own pocket which he should have (he sounded like he's doing me a favor go assure me).

Very disappointed

Monday, i will release everything. screenshots, bank accounts, chat log and his photo from his whatsapp picture.

Mike - if you're reading this, please, do me and yourself a favour, return my money and i will call it a day. there's no point playing games.
I don't like games and i don't like exposing any of your personal info online but if it's the last straw, yes i will. please don't make me do that.

CorradoBrit · 7 July 2018, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaoxing84

No. I have no communication to his dealer or AD at all.

I did the wire becsuse we have prior deals and it all went well.

Now, this single deal, it all went to crap.

I really hope he will return my money and close the case but I doubt it's going to happen given the amount of excuses he's been giving me.
It's weird he still calls me and update me about his situation but yet no actual action from him at all.

If he's really scamming me. He would have stop calling me and disappear.

It's so weird. It's either he really needs a loan or he's out of cash.

No idea what's going on his mind.

Going to call him one again. One final time. If nothing is done.
His name is going to records.
I let the authority handle his case

If you can contact him, test him. If his story is legit he'll appreciate any efforts you can make to pressurize the AD. Ultimately his business is with the AD using your cash. You need to know who his contact is at the AD, proof that funds were paid, a copy of the contract/receipt for the payment stating what the monies were being used for ie specific make and model watch in X condition with or w/ou box and papers.

DARK_KNIGHT · 7 July 2018, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaoxing84

my bank have yet to receive anything. i called and check. there's no incoming funds at all.

he called me today and told me he will provide a screenshot or proof that he has done the wire.

but after the call, he went MIA.

I am not a US citizen, will logging the report at the federal bureau help?

Does not matter that you are not a citizen. You can report this to any law enforcement agency that will listen.

DARK_KNIGHT · 7 July 2018, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by gaoxing84

I have yet to throw a bitch fit.

Not at all. You appear to be a trusting person. Throwing a fit will elevate your BP and elevate your cortisol.

6 July 2018, 01:30 PM	#32
Al1969 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 6,688	Best of luck in getting your money back OP. As others have said, entirely too many “excuses” being made by the seller. I noticed the majority of his threads are FS threads, but he’s not a pledge member. I thought you must become a pledge member PRIOR to selling. __________________ WG SUB-116619 GMT MASTER II 126719

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6 July 2018, 06:51 PM	#38
JayB "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: UK Watch: EXP, DJ, NF Posts: 710	I do find this a little strange, if this was me owing someone money I would have contacted them the minute I sent the transfer also providing proof and not wait until it's requested. Also don't like that he is sending half the funds. Go and get a loan and return everything owed. This should and could have been sorted out long before now He really needs to have a good look at how he conducts himself as he comes across very amateur to me Keep us updated and hope you get everything back soon __________________ In 1953 they used Rolex Oysters and oxygen on Everest. In 1978 they managed without the oxygen. Rolex Explorer -- Rolex Datejust -- Tudor North Flag -- Omega De Ville Trésor -- Tudor Black Bay GMT -- Omega Speedmaster Professional -- Tudor Black Bay Fifty Eight

7 July 2018, 03:24 AM	#51
TheRolexKingofLV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Trace Location: Vegas/Bay Area Posts: 9,234	I'd get the authorities involved quicker than later. This guy has more excuses than a hooker in front of a judge! __________________ Official Host "The Penthouse Party" Las Vegas 2018 Instagram @tracenunes

6 July 2018, 01:14 PM	#31
CorradoBrit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Europe bound Posts: 1,408	If he can't give you the transaction number or a screen shot of the receipt then he's screwing you around. The 4th Holiday maybe delaying the process a little. You should have a confirmation one way or another within the next 18 hours.

6 July 2018, 09:03 PM	#39
Humble michael 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Port Aransas Watch: 5711 white , 5990 Posts: 1,295	Hey Op you are being played as a fool! Start any legal proceedings now! This is way beyond reason and this man is a Con and a crook! You have given him plenty of time - why you would say you are happy it has worked out is beyond me - you have no money from this crook.The longer you wait to take action the les your chances of seeing anything from him.

7 July 2018, 02:40 AM	#42
gaoxing84 Banned Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Singapore Watch: Audemars Piguet RO Posts: 1,323	sigh, all i can say is i trusted a wrong person at this moment. end of my friday here and i still don't see crap. next week i will log a case against him. this is getting ridiculous

7 July 2018, 03:39 AM	#53
gaoxing84 Banned Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Singapore Watch: Audemars Piguet RO Posts: 1,323	thank you all. will gather all the information and upload in the website given. hope for the best. i have given my trust to him and he squander it away. having say to have wire but i see nothing. i think he's pretty hard up, having told me he have funds in cryptocurrency.

7 July 2018, 03:54 AM	#54
CorradoBrit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Europe bound Posts: 1,408	OP have you talked directly to dealer he was supposedly buying the watch from? That will tell you a lot? If he's unwilling to provide that info you know you've been scammed. But at this point with all the unbelievable excuses I think you know what needs to happen next. Good luck.

7 July 2018, 04:26 AM	#56
wickets "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: nj Watch: Tudor 76200 Posts: 47	You seem very fair and very patient. I'm hoping that you get your money back. Ex the transfer receipt of funds delay, he should have no problem giving you a confirmation number.

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