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Lemonvr6 · 14 July 2018, 08:11 AM

I recently made a thread about flipping a few ceramic models for a PM piece. Do I consider a SS Daytona C? I don’t know if the value is there at resale prices. I mean I can almost get a 116508 for $21k

envuks · 14 July 2018, 08:24 AM

Call me crazy, but I would rather have just about any current PM Rolex over a ceramic Daytona.

101031-28 · 14 July 2018, 08:26 AM

Virtually impossible for me to go back to SS after PM

Jsanders1985 · 14 July 2018, 08:35 AM

PM>SS Daytona

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JayHantz · 14 July 2018, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by envuks

Call me crazy, but I would rather have just about any current PM Rolex over a ceramic Daytona.

Completely agree.

jltait · 14 July 2018, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jayhantz

completely agree.

+2

peterpl · 14 July 2018, 08:53 AM

If your going to pay close to or over $20k for a SS watch - you'd be silly not to just buy a PM piece.

Also as others have mentioned once you go PM you wont even think of SS again.

watchwatcher · 14 July 2018, 08:59 AM

PM all the way for me. But I'm a fit/feel kinda guy...nothing beats the feeling of a solid gold bracelet draped around the wrist. IMO.

Malibuboy · 14 July 2018, 09:06 AM

yeah, I'll have to agree with the PM crowd.

once you do it, you won't go back.

Jmbarrack · 14 July 2018, 09:25 AM

I agree with the PM crowd. At the end of the day the watch will always be worth it’s weight in, whatever PM it is you buy.

The steel boom is really based on scarcity of the specific model watch (Daytona, Nautilus, etc.). PMs are costly due to material, not market demand.

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Lemonvr6 · 14 July 2018, 09:34 AM

I tried a 116508 and DD40 YG on at the Wynn last week and I can't shake the difference in feel vs SS

jagwap · 14 July 2018, 09:42 AM

I like Rolex and I have Rolex.

But for me they are a slight step above Omega (which by the way they were considered below in the sixties). So I don't think I could ever drop 5 figures on one. They are simply not that good

They appear to be trying to hype themselves to Patek levels, without actually being Patek. Good luck to them, but I will only consider non-hyped SS models. I get the appeal of a WG that only I know is a bit special, but not at the gold mark-up they have now.

Lemonvr6 · 14 July 2018, 09:44 AM

If patek had something in the ~35k range that interested me at all I'd consider one.

jps3b · 14 July 2018, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 101031-28

Virtually impossible for me to go back to SS after PM

I thought it was just me.. Since I bought my 116619 (Smurf) I haven’t worn any of my SS watches at all

HL65 · 14 July 2018, 09:46 AM

Prefer SS so for me 116500 own and love both white and black.

TickTockChuck · 14 July 2018, 09:56 AM

The DaytonaC is certainly nice, but the grey market mark-up is hefty, so I'd be inclined to go for a gently pre-owned WG Smurf or BLRO. I think I'd be happy to rotate through both SS and PM if I had both in my collection. Cheers!

Nikrnic · 14 July 2018, 09:57 AM

It's crazy time for SS, just thinking someone could flip a new Daytona or SS GMT and get the same in PM for a few K more. I know l would.

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kauffee · 14 July 2018, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jmbarrack

I agree with the PM crowd. At the end of the day the watch will always be worth it’s weight in, whatever PM it is you buy.

The steel boom is really based on scarcity of the specific model watch (Daytona, Nautilus, etc.). PMs are costly due to material, not market demand.

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With respect, this is very much not true. The cost of the raw gold or platinum does not come close to the price premium over stainless. In fact, right now gold is significantly more expensive than platinum and yet platinum watches are priced higher than gold. Either way, the “melt value” of a PM watch isn’t going to get you close to the retail price.

PJitz · 14 July 2018, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jmbarrack

I agree with the PM crowd. At the end of the day the watch will always be worth it’s weight in, whatever PM it is you buy.

The steel boom is really based on scarcity of the specific model watch (Daytona, Nautilus, etc.). PMs are costly due to material, not market demand.

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More like markup. PM watches are awesome but please don’t justify them based on the value of the material

zjd168 · 14 July 2018, 10:06 AM

Daytona SS C is a great watch choice at retail price, not so at PM price.

richard371 · 14 July 2018, 10:15 AM

I got the 500 at retail. If I had to pay 22 I’d consider the 116519 for a few k more. I’m a one watch guy so the duribilty and daily wear of gold may not work for me.

RHIII · 14 July 2018, 10:54 AM

Don’t pay PM prices for Stainless watches.

Just my .02

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ap1 · 14 July 2018, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by lemonvr6

if patek had something in the ~35k range that interested me at all i'd consider one.

5164

peterpl · 14 July 2018, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RHIII

Don’t pay PM prices for Stainless watches.
Just my .02
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This pretty much sums it up nicely. Dont be a sucker.

TimeToWatch · 14 July 2018, 11:30 AM

If you want a Daytona but don’t want to pay a ridiculous premium, may I recommend the 116519LN? That’s what I did. Doesn’t hurt that it looks 100x better than a 116500 (bring on the haters lol)

envuks · 14 July 2018, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PJitz

PM watches are awesome but please don’t justify them based on the value of the material

True statement.

PJitz · 14 July 2018, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TimeToWatch

If you want a Daytona but don’t want to pay a ridiculous premium, may I recommend the 116519LN? That’s what I did. Doesn’t hurt that it looks 100x better than a 116500 (bring on the haters lol)

Hey man, none of that

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14 July 2018, 08:11 AM	#1
Lemonvr6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 463	Ugh... indecision I recently made a thread about flipping a few ceramic models for a PM piece. Do I consider a SS Daytona C? I don’t know if the value is there at resale prices. I mean I can almost get a 116508 for $21k __________________ 116710BLNR, 116610LV, 114060, 116710LN

14 July 2018, 08:24 AM	#2
envuks 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New England Posts: 3,755	Call me crazy, but I would rather have just about any current PM Rolex over a ceramic Daytona. __________________ Current watches: 116718ln, 116500 black dial, 40mm Breitling Chronomat MOP dial “A man with one watch always knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.”

14 July 2018, 08:26 AM	#3
101031-28 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Watch: 1665 Posts: 4,768	Virtually impossible for me to go back to SS after PM __________________ He could not just wear a watch. It had to be a Rolex. Ian Fleming

14 July 2018, 09:34 AM	#11
Lemonvr6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 463	I tried a 116508 and DD40 YG on at the Wynn last week and I can't shake the difference in feel vs SS __________________ 116710BLNR, 116610LV, 114060, 116710LN

14 July 2018, 08:35 AM	#4
Jsanders1985 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Florida Posts: 247	PM>SS Daytona Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

14 July 2018, 08:53 AM	#7
peterpl Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: . Posts: 6,692	If your going to pay close to or over $20k for a SS watch - you'd be silly not to just buy a PM piece. Also as others have mentioned once you go PM you wont even think of SS again.

14 July 2018, 08:59 AM	#8
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,196	PM all the way for me. But I'm a fit/feel kinda guy...nothing beats the feeling of a solid gold bracelet draped around the wrist. IMO.

14 July 2018, 09:06 AM	#9
Malibuboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Reno Watch: SMUUURF Posts: 383	yeah, I'll have to agree with the PM crowd. once you do it, you won't go back.

14 July 2018, 09:25 AM	#10
Jmbarrack 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: United States Watch: Ever changing! Posts: 1,155	I agree with the PM crowd. At the end of the day the watch will always be worth it’s weight in, whatever PM it is you buy. The steel boom is really based on scarcity of the specific model watch (Daytona, Nautilus, etc.). PMs are costly due to material, not market demand. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

14 July 2018, 09:42 AM	#12
jagwap "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: China Watch: IWC IW389001 Posts: 762	I like Rolex and I have Rolex. But for me they are a slight step above Omega (which by the way they were considered below in the sixties). So I don't think I could ever drop 5 figures on one. They are simply not that good They appear to be trying to hype themselves to Patek levels, without actually being Patek. Good luck to them, but I will only consider non-hyped SS models. I get the appeal of a WG that only I know is a bit special, but not at the gold mark-up they have now.

14 July 2018, 09:44 AM	#13
Lemonvr6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 463	If patek had something in the ~35k range that interested me at all I'd consider one. __________________ 116710BLNR, 116610LV, 114060, 116710LN

14 July 2018, 09:46 AM	#15
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2025 Titanium Yacht-Master Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,247	Prefer SS so for me 116500 own and love both white and black. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

14 July 2018, 09:56 AM	#16
TickTockChuck "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Real Name: Chuck Location: Canada Watch: Rolex 116610LV Posts: 2,311	The DaytonaC is certainly nice, but the grey market mark-up is hefty, so I'd be inclined to go for a gently pre-owned WG Smurf or BLRO. I think I'd be happy to rotate through both SS and PM if I had both in my collection. Cheers!

14 July 2018, 09:57 AM	#17
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,175	It's crazy time for SS, just thinking someone could flip a new Daytona or SS GMT and get the same in PM for a few K more. I know l would. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

14 July 2018, 10:06 AM	#20
zjd168 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: US Posts: 2,698	Daytona SS C is a great watch choice at retail price, not so at PM price.

14 July 2018, 10:15 AM	#21
richard371 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: sf Watch: 116500LN White Posts: 1,856	I got the 500 at retail. If I had to pay 22 I’d consider the 116519 for a few k more. I’m a one watch guy so the duribilty and daily wear of gold may not work for me.

14 July 2018, 10:54 AM	#22
RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	Don’t pay PM prices for Stainless watches. Just my .02 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

14 July 2018, 11:30 AM	#25
TimeToWatch Banned Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: TRF Watch: Rolex & AP Posts: 1,757	If you want a Daytona but don’t want to pay a ridiculous premium, may I recommend the 116519LN? That’s what I did. Doesn’t hurt that it looks 100x better than a 116500 (bring on the haters lol)

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