Just silly sea-dweller prices!

[gone-rolex-mad]

Have you guys noticed that some second hand dealers are asking silly money (£4100+) for BNIB sea-dwellers! Is this happening where you live, does anyone know of people buying SDs at above the last list price? Thanks in advance guys and gals.

[charliec]

If they are available on the V which I think they are, you can understand the last of the dinosaurs being reasonably rare.

[padi56]

Would hardly call the SD a dinosaur and would not call it rare,the date letter means practically nothing in the modern day Rolex world.The SD depth rating was good enough for any human needs now or in the future.

[Atlanta]

Originally Posted by charliec

If they are available on the V which I think they are, you can understand the last of the dinosaurs being reasonably rare.

x2, there will be 10 posts here saying they are the same watch, yada yada yada, can't be worth more...

It is the last of the line - no more. Personally, I can't see paying a premium, but I understand the buyer's mentality and logic on this issue.

[baldyspoon]

I think it could be down to the fact no one wants the new sea dweller and so they know they can get the price because people want the last of the stock before all you can get is the white elephant deep sea

[Welshwatchman]

Just to point out that P series 16520 carry a chunky premium over the A series and that's purely down to the smaller numbers. The rest of the watch is identical.

[SLS]

Look at what happened with the 16710 GMT...the same is happening with the SD, you wait a bit and the prices will settle to where they should be.
~Scott

[marke]

i have access to 2 16600 sea dwellers BNIB with all plastics in Place 100% complete never worn.. price is £ 3500 each which i think is very good.

[karmatp]

You can still find them for less than MSRP at local AD's in the states. Those sellers are just exploiting less informed buyers, it's really a shame. By no means will a V serial be worth anymore than a M or Z 20 years down the road, I just don't understand why people even care about the serial number.

[asadtiger]

just adding to SD question, is this SD going to be discontinued now that DSSD has been introduced?...just a query cuz I wish I could buy a SD but will only be able to afford one in next four years :)

[ASH]

$ 12,500.00 for 18K GMT IIc (black dial)used but like new with box and paperwork, from AD, however out the back door. Is this a good deal for an all 18K Rolex?

[charliec]

Originally Posted by karmatp

You can still find them for less than MSRP at local AD's in the states. Those sellers are just exploiting less informed buyers, it's really a shame. By no means will a V serial be worth anymore than a M or Z 20 years down the road, I just don't understand why people even care about the serial number.

I don't think you can claim people are less informed than others because you have better availability or AD's offering discounts? What is a shame is implying people are naive because they have paid more or want a latter serial than an earlier one. Personally if i wanted to buy one of the last ones produced I too would want the last serial manufactured and not a Z for example. Does that make my choice shameful or less imformed ?

[Rob_b]

Originally Posted by ASH

$ 12,500.00 for 18K GMT IIc (black dial)used but like new with box and paperwork, from AD, however out the back door. Is this a good deal for an all 18K Rolex?

Wow, my AD has them for AU$35K. If I got 20% off, you would still be miles ahead.

Buy it and sell it to me............

Rob

[buz-lh]

Originally Posted by charliec

I don't think you can claim people are less informed than others because you have better availability or AD's offering discounts? What is a shame is implying people are naive because they have paid more or want a latter serial than an earlier one. Personally if i wanted to buy one of the last ones produced I too would want the last serial manufactured and not a Z for example. Does that make my choice shameful or less imformed ?

Are you the guy they're looking for? How much over srp would you be willing to spend to have an m SD?

[wristworks]

Originally Posted by baldyspoon

I think it could be down to the fact no one wants the new sea dweller and so they know they can get the price because people want the last of the stock before all you can get is the white elephant deep sea

But you posted this about the DeepSea yesterday:

"Wish I lived in USA as dealers here not got any in stock and closed their waiting lists also selling above MSRP due to shortage in UK "

A "white elephant" is not going to have full waiting lists so make up your mind.

[charliec]

Originally Posted by buz-lh

Are you the guy they're looking for? How much over srp would you be willing to spend to have an m SD?

I wouldn't. I never said I would pay over msrp.
What i actually responded to was a statement that implied discounts were readily available and therefore why pay the full MSRP never mind higher. The second part of my response indicated that we should all be allowed to choose the serial we are after without being told "why, they are all the same". I very much doubt you will allow an AD to give you any serial going so please don't condone or expect other people to bend over and take it either.

Thanks though for allowing me to reiterate my feelings yet again Buz.

[baldyspoon]

Originally Posted by wristworks

But you posted this about the DeepSea yesterday:

"Wish I lived in USA as dealers here not got any in stock and closed their waiting lists also selling above MSRP due to shortage in UK "

A "white elephant" is not going to have full waiting lists so make up your mind.

Lots of people on here are saying the deep sea is a white elephant not me just quoteing what others have said and using it as a reference as to why the price of the sea dweller is high, and only looks like deep sea is hard to get in uk as rest of the world have no problem sorry for any confusion my quote may have caused

[charliec]

The only reason the SD may be priced high is solely due to the ceasement of the line as it was known. People trying to get the last few watches always creates an over demand thus creating higher prices in the main.

[Gimbal]

I'm waiting for my 'V' Sea Dweller now. I've always loved the watch and the fact it was being dis-continued meant I decided to go for it.

I don't think I payed over the odds for mine, certainly below the USD and GBP figures on here. Does anyone know the official list price in AUD?

I noticed it seemed a lot higher on line when I went to check prices at grey dealers. As has been said I think prices will level out in time. Maybe the 'V's will command a small premium being the last of there kind. Maybe not.

[buz-lh]

Originally Posted by charliec

I wouldn't. I never said I would pay over msrp.
What i actually responded to was a statement that implied discounts were readily available and therefore why pay the full MSRP never mind higher. The second part of my response indicated that we should all be allowed to choose the serial we are after without being told "why, they are all the same". I very much doubt you will allow an AD to give you any serial going so please don't condone or expect other people to bend over and take it either.

Thanks though for allowing me to reiterate my feelings yet again Buz.

Charliec, I think what Trevor was saying is that it's shameful for dealers and marketeers to try to take advantage of unknowing buyers with ridiculous prices, hoping they find a sucker. I certainly don't think he meant it as an afront to someone who wants a particular serial number. He never said MSRP was a bad deal, he was writing about the watches on the market at MSRP plus. At least that's the way I read it. And please, if you're going to take a condescending attitude towards myself or anyone else who responds on this forum you can reiterate until the cows come home but I, for one, won't be reading.back at ya.

[kudosguy]

Haven't seen any as yet. Have seen ten year old ones going close to RRP.