Does anyone have the Japan made Seiko six 007 or 009?

[scarlet knight]

I understand that it has sapphire crystal instead of hardlex. Is it a noticeably better watch than the non-Japanese made version?

[Drkitch109]

I don’t have the Japanese version of the SKX007 but I do have one with an aftermarket sapphire from Yobokies and it is pretty fantastic. The upgrade to sapphire makes a difference in my opinion.




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[toxicavenger]

Originally Posted by scarlet knight

I understand that it has sapphire crystal instead of hardlex. Is it a noticeably better watch than the non-Japanese made version?

Not true they both use hardlex. Which is one of my favorite. There are very small differences between those to watches.

If you get a domed sapphire it will create more glare on the watch, even with ar. If you do flat sapphire then it won't.

[Kohola]

+1 from what toxicavenger said.

[Frogman]

No both use hardlex, both are exactly the same watch barring '21 jewels' and japan on the dial of the J model.

Day wheels might be different depending on where you buy it.

Theres no difference in QC.

[Dan Pierce]

Originally Posted by Frogman

No both use hardlex, both are exactly the same watch barring '21 jewels' and japan on the dial of the J model.

Day wheels might be different depending on where you buy it.

Theres no difference in QC.

Frogman is spot on. Both are made in the same factory, by the same robots, with the exact same QC. The only difference is small writing on the dial.

The idea the Js are made in Japan was debunked long ago.
dP

[nbsheeran]

The story I heard was along the lines of some Japanese dude with a clipboard in the Malaysian factory looked at the J-models. That's about the min required for the "Made in Japan." They were certainly not assembled, manufactured, whatever in Japan.

[yessir69]

My 007 is made in Japan. It's got a really good scratch on the crystal, but it's much less noticeable than a similar scratch from a Swiss cousin.

As per usual, I have absolutely no scientific evidence on causation. Just my perception.

[yessir69]

Originally Posted by nbsheeran

The story I heard was along the lines of some Japanese dude with a clipboard in the Malaysian factory looked at the J-models. That's about the min required for the "Made in Japan." They were certainly not assembled, manufactured, whatever in Japan.

Wait, so Seiko is printing "Made in Japan" on a watch that is not made in Japan?

[Drkitch109]

So nobody likes my Seiko mod?


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[toxicavenger]

Originally Posted by Drkitch109

So nobody likes my Seiko mod?


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As long as you like then that is all that matters. That is why I like modding so much since you can customize it to fit your taste.

But I am not a Monster dial fan and that looks like one.

But enjoy it buddy.

[Drkitch109]

Originally Posted by toxicavenger

As long as you like then that is all that matters. That is why I like modding so much since you can customize it to fit your taste.



But I am not a Monster dial fan and that looks like one.



But enjoy it buddy.

I love the potential with the SKX007. Just amazing how many different way you can get creative with a $200 watch.

It is a monster dial that I dropped in it...the lume plots do it for me with this one. 🤙


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[genkifd]

I have a skx007j. To me it just rarer than the non j version

[ajas]

I have Japanese version of 00, 009 and 011. All use standard Hardlex.

007 was my first mechanical watch and after 8 years of tough use I never managed to scratch crystal.

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[J!m]

I went through this when I Bought mine (skx007j) and once I had it, of course, I took it apart...

Here’s my take, based on what I saw.

The j suffix is Japanese domestic market. Basically the Japan version of “made in USA”. Now, we use a more accurate “made in USA of globally sourced parts” or whatever, and japan does not have to go there. Yet.

So back to the watch. The dial says made in Japan. The movement says japan and the Case back also says japan. So, those at least need to be “assembled” in japan to wear that as I understand it. Otherwise, why not stamp everything the same and enjoy further economy of scale? Simple: there is a difference necessary to wear the marking.

Deeper into this, I’m certain the mid Case and movement components come off manufacturing lines in Korea or elsewhere, but the final assembly and qc (such as it is) must be in japan to wear the markings.

Now for me, I wanted my “Japanese” watch to say: made in Japan. Just as I prefer my Swiss watches to say: Swiss made.

Bottom line: all parts between the j and K versions interchange. I like the 2-line Japanese dial over the 1-line ROW dial. But there is no better movement finishing, enhanced accuracy (mines not great in fact), or other “tangible” justification for the up-charge. But that’s not what it’s about. Because there’s no tangible justification for the up-charge on a Rolex stainless diver either, but we pay it anyway...