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Old 3 February 2019, 12:04 PM   #1
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5513 with Rolex service but without service marks?

Hello everybody,

I was wondering if anyone knows or could have an idea why this watch does not have any service-engravings on its caseback although the papers state that it was serviced by Rolex USA?
Serial number and date stamp are matching so I don't think that the caseback was swapped.

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https://www.hqmilton.com/timepieces/...e-papers-A1652
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Old 3 February 2019, 12:48 PM   #2
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Doing a little adjusting with the photo, it does seem there’s something there. Faint, to be sure, but it could be some service scribbling. I’ve seen some even more incoherent.




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Old 3 February 2019, 02:55 PM   #3
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Or could’ve been written in magic marker and later removed?


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Old 5 February 2019, 07:15 AM   #4
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Doing a little adjusting with the photo, it does seem there’s something there. Faint, to be sure, but it could be some service scribbling. I’ve seen some even more incoherent.




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Thank you for zooming in! But would Rolex really engrave that faintly and in that way?
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Possible but I doubt that Rolex would have done that. If so then it would really surprise me.
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Old 5 February 2019, 07:25 AM   #6
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Possible but I doubt that Rolex would have done that. If so then it would really surprise me.


I wonder if you can call a service center and, with the serial number, get a copy?


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Old 5 February 2019, 11:31 AM   #7
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If you have Rolex paperwork, you don't need a case scratch... All Rolex service is recorded on the watches database, no point in cryptic markings.
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Possible but I doubt that Rolex would have done that. If so then it would really surprise me.
Rolex NY definitely did it. Not sure about other service centers but I think it was commonly done.


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Old 5 February 2019, 12:01 PM   #9
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Rolex NY definitely did it. Not sure about other service centers but I think it was commonly done.

I have seen it numerous Times as well.
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Old 5 February 2019, 08:43 PM   #10
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Surprising that apparently there were three different ways by Rolex to mark a service back then (engravings on the caseback, magic marker or no service marks at all on the caseback and an entry in Rolex' records/database instead) – and no uniform marking system, which would have been easier. Good to know! Thanks guys!
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Old 5 February 2019, 08:48 PM   #11
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I wonder if you can call a service center and, with the serial number, get a copy?

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When I picked up my a watch, I called the Dallas service center to see if it was ever serviced. It wasn’t according to their records. Granted, My watch was a Y serial so it's not vintage.
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Old 6 February 2019, 01:23 AM   #12
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It was serviced at RUSA NY in 2005.
No way of knowing what was done since that or before that.

The case was polished by them in 2005. Perhaps the marks you see are an artifact of previous markings by a non-Rolex watchmaker. By 2005 no RSC was scratching the inside of the caseback. A Sharpie was used by some watchmakers to help them with ID’g their work. But databases at RSC has become the norm.

As the watch is sold, I doubt the seller will comment here.


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