New Submariner Line coming Basel 2019...

[peterskinner]

To my eyes, the six digit maxi-case was a bad stylistic error. It makes the ceramic sub look ‘blocky’ and too square. So a new iteration could have slimmer lugs and look like a smaller 43mm.

[904VT]

Originally Posted by scurfa

I think the maxi case come about for a reason and it probably won’t change, I won’t polish up my 50 year old subs but my new maxi case sub could be polished every five years without such a problem.

I think this is one of the true purposes of the maxi case and one of the most overlooked. The Sub today is a perfect watch already IMO. Add a movement if you must, but leave it more or less alone like the Daytona treatment

[DramaTurtle]

I think they will keep the maxi fat supercase design for the submariner line. It will be a distinguishing feature between the sub and GMT lines. Mark my words.

[oldman2005]

I think it will be very much the same with new movement and red Submariner on the dial, WIS will go nut but most can't their hands on one.

[kunlun]

A return to vintage era case proportions would be perfect and it's very likely (look at the move from DD2 to DD40 and DJ2 to DJ41, this will be the same move).

[Robbyman]

100% new Sub this year.

I got the Tudor Pepsi and BB58 right last year!

[jps3b]

Originally Posted by SeaDweller50

Apparently not.



http://bhi.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/...-the-Month.pdf

I read the article and it is a very good read indeed. However, just because one watch maker doesn’t approve of the “upgrade” doesn’t mean it’s rubbish. I would tend to put my faith in a multi billion dollar company with millions going into research and development than a single watchmaker that thinks the new movement is inconvenient to work on. Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Thank you for posting the link good Sir

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by DramaTurtle

I think they will keep the maxi fat supercase design for the submariner line. It will be a distinguishing feature between the sub and GMT lines. Mark my words.

But the GMT has the supercase too.

[lindstd]

I would love a 42mm, ceramic sub. It also shocks me the Daytona is the only chronograph within Rolex's lineup. Beautiful watch off the wrist, but I feel it wears very small and for someone who has large wrists like myself I would like to see a 42mm Rolex chronograph.

[Montremoi]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

But the GMT has the supercase too.

Supercase is fine, fatty numbers on the crown aren't

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Montremoi

Supercase is fine, fatty numbers on the crown aren't

I have no idea what you just said, but I admire your conviction all the same.

[JR16]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

I have no idea what you just said, but I admire your conviction all the same.

Humor at the end of the workday is great, thanks for that


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[904VT]

Originally Posted by lindstd

I would love a 42mm, ceramic sub. It also shocks me the Daytona is the only chronograph within Rolex's lineup. Beautiful watch off the wrist, but I feel it wears very small and for someone who has large wrists like myself I would like to see a 42mm Rolex chronograph.

I would say get a SD43....it's pretty much the exact watch you wish the Sub to be

[Coop13]

Jeez you guys have a lot of time on your hands... no pun intended.

Also, the sub isn't going to increase beyond 40mm. Do some of you actually think that's going to happen?

[rlx123]

Originally Posted by Ticknaway

That’s the best watch!,,,the one you get for free.

Nothing is for free. She will expect a diamond ring in return! We men are so gullible....ever heard of baiting a big fish with a small fish?

[shaunylw]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

I have no idea what you just said, but I admire your conviction all the same.

Lol supercase. I like it. What would the deepsea be? Mega case?


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[Wizardly]

I think the 'maxi' case is perfect, that combined with the magnificent ceramic bezel makes the watch looks totally balanced and perfectly proportioned, IMHO. If they do update it (I doubt they would slim it down) I would still be madly in love with my Submariner. It is a thing of beauty and one of the finest things I've ever owned.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by shaunylw

Lol supercase. I like it. What would the deepsea be? Mega case?

Supercase I understand. I just didn't get what fatty numbers on the crown are.

[BNABOD]

Originally Posted by Montremoi

Supercase is fine, fatty numbers on the crown aren't

Showme, show me them fatty numbers on crown please

[No SUBctitute]

Originally Posted by DramaTurtle

I think they will keep the maxi fat supercase design for the submariner line. It will be a distinguishing feature between the sub and GMT lines. Mark my words.

I know the Sub case is thicker than the GMT. But do we know the exact differences in width/lugs/etc.?

Also, is the BLRO case different than the BLNR case? Are the spring bar holes different?

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by No SUBctitute

I know the Sub case is thicker than the GMT. But do we know the exact differences in width/lugs/etc.?

Also, is the BLRO case different than the BLNR case? Are the spring bar holes different?

The GMT midcase is actually marginally thicker than the Sub's, but the Sub has a more protruding caseback, so the Sub's total back-to-crystal measurement is about half a millimeter thicker overall. I don't know about differences in lug thickness between GMT and Sub; I'd love it if someone could post measurements. It's not an uncommon belief that they share the same case, even though they don't, so that's an indication of how visually similar they are.

Members who have taken measurements and side-by-side pictures of the SS BLRO and the BLNR show that the dimensions are nearly identical. However, lug hole placement on the BLRO has been modified, as has case finishing.

[No SUBctitute]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

The GMT midcase is actually marginally thicker than the Sub's, but the Sub has a more protruding caseback, so the Sub's total back-to-crystal measurement is about half a millimeter thicker overall. I don't know about differences in lug thickness between GMT and Sub; I'd love it if someone could post measurements. It's not an uncommon belief that they share the same case, even though they don't, so that's an indication of how visually similar they are.

Members who have taken measurements and side-by-side pictures of the SS BLRO and the BLNR show that the dimensions are nearly identical. However, lug hole placement on the BLRO has been modified, as has case finishing.

Thanks for the answers, bud! I appreciate it!

What's your best guess for Basel?!?

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by No SUBctitute

What's your best guess for Basel?!?

Allow me to quote myself.

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

- Better than 50% chance a new Submariner drops. Will be the 12661x, with 3235 movement. Following the pattern of the GMT last year, case refinements will be minimal, and virtually indiscernible from the 11661x series. Because of this, Rolex will put out new metal/color combos, and will not update existing models this year. If this holds true, then updates of existing models will begin in 2020. A red line on black dial will not happen until at least 2028.

- Hulk will be missing from the catalog price list, resuming a frenzy of speculation it has been discontinued, which will endure up until Basel '20, when it actually does get phased out.

- The existing 11671x GMTs will begin to be updated with the 3285. 33% chance BLNR is discontinued outright. 33% chance it will receive new movement and be reissued as the 126710 BLNR. 33% chance it isn't due for any change until a later Basel. 1% chance something else happens I didn't think of.

- Coke fanboys will continue to predict it will happen, only to be as bitterly disappointed as Star Wars fans in the '90s who had faith the Lucas prequels wouldn't suck.

- More DJ combos.

- Rolex will do something else to piss off PM owners.

- Yachtmaster, yadda yadda. (Rolex has no clear idea what that line should look like, so why should I?)

- No new Explorer II until 2021, which will be its 50th anniversary. All Photoshop mockups of a ceramic version between now and then will only serve as big clock-teases for the people dying to see it happen. (See Lucas-prequel simile above.)

- None of the above will be available at ADs before Basel '20, except for the DJs, which will be available at an AD near you beginning March 27, 2019.

[inadeje]

No comment

[No SUBctitute]

Agree on new Sub.
GMT, who knows. Good guess.
LOL on pissing off PM owners.
LOL on coke fans. I am one.
Hadn't thought of that for Explorer II.

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

Allow me to quote myself.

- Better than 50% chance a new Submariner drops. Will be the 12661x, with 3235 movement. Following the pattern of the GMT last year, case refinements will be minimal, and virtually indiscernible from the 11661x series. Because of this, Rolex will put out new metal/color combos, and will not update existing models this year. If this holds true, then updates of existing models will begin in 2020. A red line on black dial will not happen until at least 2028.

- Hulk will be missing from the catalog price list, resuming a frenzy of speculation it has been discontinued, which will endure up until Basel '20, when it actually does get phased out.

- The existing 11671x GMTs will begin to be updated with the 3285. 33% chance BLNR is discontinued outright. 33% chance it will receive new movement and be reissued as the 126710 BLNR. 33% chance it isn't due for any change until a later Basel. 1% chance something else happens I didn't think of.

- Coke fanboys will continue to predict it will happen, only to be as bitterly disappointed as Star Wars fans in the '90s who had faith the Lucas prequels wouldn't suck.

- More DJ combos.

- Rolex will do something else to piss off PM owners.

- Yachtmaster, yadda yadda. (Rolex has no clear idea what that line should look like, so why should I?)

- No new Explorer II until 2021, which will be its 50th anniversary. All Photoshop mockups of a ceramic version between now and then will only serve as big clock-teases for the people dying to see it happen. (See Lucas-prequel simile above.)

- None of the above will be available at ADs before Basel '20, except for the DJs, which will be available at an AD near you beginning March 27, 2019.

[SimonUK82]

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