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jgk200 · 24 January 2009, 06:03 AM

Tried one yesterday.... beautiful!! AD would not discount a penny! (14,700) (not even for 4 time repeat customer) My question is: Would there be ( or should there be) any price difference between a "J" SERIES or "K" SERIES? I've seen both series listed as 14700 BNIB. Is "J" The first series of this model? If so, would it be better to pick up the "K"? Are there any differences between the series? Thanks for any knowledge you pass along....

gone2vegas · 24 January 2009, 06:33 AM

I think "I" might be the first series, but I could be wrong. Production numbers seem to be different for each series. Not sure what else is different.

I've got my eye on one as well, but haven't asked what kind of discount I could get as I'm not ready to buy. There are some great pre-owned deals out there though.

mfer · 24 January 2009, 06:39 AM

Peter is right. I is the first. No difference between I-K.

argee1977 · 24 January 2009, 07:01 AM

The price for these are coming down just now, over on paneristi you can get one for about $9000

argee1977 · 24 January 2009, 07:05 AM

Oh yeah, and the 233 is without doubt my favourite PAM, i think it must be Panerai's favourite as well just now looking at what the new models

brainbizz · 24 January 2009, 07:18 AM

BNIB 233 9,000 usd? sorry just do not believe it.

mfer · 24 January 2009, 07:21 AM

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BNIB 233 9,000 usd? sorry just do not believe it.

You can get a USED I for that. I've seen 'em.

argee1977 · 24 January 2009, 07:28 AM

Yeah, used, everything has slowly been coming down by about 10-15% lately, the 26Ks, 233s, 249s, etc.

gone2vegas · 24 January 2009, 09:31 AM

Production numbers:

I Series - 1500
J Series - 1000
K Series - 2000

sphereman · 24 January 2009, 10:55 AM

you can get a new K serial 233 for about $11000... do not pay MSRP on this one.

Spencer · 24 January 2009, 11:25 AM

In the same boats as you man. I tried the 233 on at the BH Boutique last week and instantly feel in love. I think with the slower economy and the release of the 312/320 we will definitly see AD's discounting the 233 this year, but probably no more than 10%, 15% max.

brainbizz · 24 January 2009, 12:15 PM

It will be interesting to see what happens to the 233 and 270. I would suspect that the numbers will be decreased in the L series. I am not overly excited about the new 3 day movement. The GMT feature is lacking compared to the 233 or 270 since their is no indicator or scale to determine am or pm.

mike · 24 January 2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by brainbizz

It will be interesting to see what happens to the 233 and 270. I would suspect that the numbers will be decreased in the L series. I am not overly excited about the new 3 day movement. The GMT feature is lacking compared to the 233 or 270 since their is no indicator or scale to determine am or pm.

I thought the same thing. I'm ok with the 3 day movement, but the lack of an AM/PM.

jgk200 · 24 January 2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by brainbizz

It will be interesting to see what happens to the 233 and 270. I would suspect that the numbers will be decreased in the L series. I am not overly excited about the new 3 day movement. The GMT feature is lacking compared to the 233 or 270 since their is no indicator or scale to determine am or pm.

well said!!

mfer · 24 January 2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by brainbizz

It will be interesting to see what happens to the 233 and 270. I would suspect that the numbers will be decreased in the L series. I am not overly excited about the new 3 day movement. The GMT feature is lacking compared to the 233 or 270 since their is no indicator or scale to determine am or pm.

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Originally Posted by mike

I thought the same thing. I'm ok with the 3 day movement, but the lack of an AM/PM.

My ultimate would still be a combo of both.

An 8-10 day manual, sammy, no GMT, no date............
Oh yeah, with the super dome........ *sigh* I can dream can't I?
I can only dream.

The 233 and 270 are safe IMHO. Different than the others. Especially the 233.

Trurolexer · 24 January 2009, 07:03 PM

233 is my next Pannie. I really hope so.

argee1977 · 24 January 2009, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Trurolexer

233 is my next Pannie. I really hope so.

Me too

Trurolexer · 24 January 2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by argee1977

Me too

Or 190...

argee1977 · 24 January 2009, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Trurolexer

Or 190...

I don't like Rads, too dressy for me

Trurolexer · 24 January 2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by argee1977

I don't like Rads, too dressy for me

The only Pannie on my list is 190 & 233. That's it. I'm done with Pannie.

argee1977 · 24 January 2009, 09:53 PM

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The only Pannie on my list is 190 & 233. That's it. I'm done with Pannie.

What about the news ones like the 312 and 320?

jgk200 · 24 January 2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Trurolexer

The only Pannie on my list is 190 & 233. That's it. I'm done with Pannie.

sorry TR.... But, forsome reason i don't believe that one... LOL!

Spencer · 25 January 2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Trurolexer

233 is my next Pannie. I really hope so.

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Originally Posted by argee1977

Me too

Me 3

dman · 25 January 2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spencer

Me 3

Spencer, not for nothing and I love my 233, but I would trade it or any of and most of my watches for the Themes in your avatar bro. I love that watch and if I was a one watch guy, that would be my one watch.

Trurolexer · 25 January 2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dman

Spencer, not for nothing and I love my 233, but I would trade it or any of and most of my watches for the Themes in your avatar bro. I love that watch and if I was a one watch guy, that would be my one watch.

What?!?!

Don't you turn you head to AP, Daren!!!

dman · 25 January 2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Trurolexer

What?!?!

Don't you turn you head to AP, Daren!!!

LOL, I've always loved AP bro, jus didn't think that I would dump that type of money into one watch, then came along the 217 and the 233 and the.....LOL!

Trurolexer · 25 January 2009, 06:10 PM

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LOL, I've always loved AP bro, jus didn't think that I would dump that type of money into one watch, then came along the 217 and the 233 and the.....LOL!

My Brother sold his Pannie to bought a AP ROO Safari.

Spencer · 26 January 2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dman

Spencer, not for nothing and I love my 233, but I would trade it or any of and most of my watches for the Themes in your avatar bro. I love that watch and if I was a one watch guy, that would be my one watch.

It's a great watch and was with out a doubt one of my grail pieces and I am happy to have it. I will not be buying a 233 soon

but I do intend on getting one by years end. I too would rather have the AP ROO over the 233, but now that I have the AP, I have set my eyes elsewhere

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Originally Posted by Trurolexer

What?!?!

Don't you turn you head to AP, Daren!!!

TR,

We are coming for you next!!!!!

Seriously though, it seems that many Paneristis make the jump over to AP at some point. They have many similarities, and if you can afford to own both, you should. I want to make sure you will soon

Trurolexer · 26 January 2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Spencer

TR,

We are coming for you next!!!!!

Seriously though, it seems that many Paneristis make the jump over to AP at some point. They have many similarities, and if you can afford to own both, you should. I want to make sure you will soon

I think you're right, Spencer!!!

AP ROO is in my future list, special the rubber one with black dial.

Spencer · 27 January 2009, 12:49 PM

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24 January 2009, 06:03 AM	#1
jgk200 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Jeff Location: columbus, oh Watch: PAM 321 Posts: 76	233 Tried one yesterday.... beautiful!! AD would not discount a penny! (14,700) (not even for 4 time repeat customer) My question is: Would there be ( or should there be) any price difference between a "J" SERIES or "K" SERIES? I've seen both series listed as 14700 BNIB. Is "J" The first series of this model? If so, would it be better to pick up the "K"? Are there any differences between the series? Thanks for any knowledge you pass along....

24 January 2009, 06:33 AM	#2
gone2vegas "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Peter Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 303	I think "I" might be the first series, but I could be wrong. Production numbers seem to be different for each series. Not sure what else is different. I've got my eye on one as well, but haven't asked what kind of discount I could get as I'm not ready to buy. There are some great pre-owned deals out there though. __________________ It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. PAM 312

24 January 2009, 06:39 AM	#3
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	Peter is right. I is the first. No difference between I-K. __________________ member#3242

24 January 2009, 07:01 AM	#4
argee1977 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Ryan Location: England Watch: AP ROC Posts: 1,462	The price for these are coming down just now, over on paneristi you can get one for about $9000 __________________ PANERAI, MORE THAN A WATCH, LESS THAN A KITKAT

24 January 2009, 07:05 AM	#5
argee1977 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Ryan Location: England Watch: AP ROC Posts: 1,462	Oh yeah, and the 233 is without doubt my favourite PAM, i think it must be Panerai's favourite as well just now looking at what the new models __________________ PANERAI, MORE THAN A WATCH, LESS THAN A KITKAT

24 January 2009, 07:18 AM	#6
brainbizz Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 608	BNIB 233 9,000 usd? sorry just do not believe it.

24 January 2009, 07:28 AM	#8
argee1977 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Ryan Location: England Watch: AP ROC Posts: 1,462	Yeah, used, everything has slowly been coming down by about 10-15% lately, the 26Ks, 233s, 249s, etc. __________________ PANERAI, MORE THAN A WATCH, LESS THAN A KITKAT

24 January 2009, 09:31 AM	#9
gone2vegas "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Peter Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 303	Production numbers: I Series - 1500 J Series - 1000 K Series - 2000 __________________ It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. PAM 312

24 January 2009, 10:55 AM	#10
sphereman "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SoCal Posts: 981	you can get a new K serial 233 for about $11000... do not pay MSRP on this one. __________________ 2023 Watch Collection Panerai: 249 California, 232, 390 Rolex: Starbucks Tudor: Blue Pelagos

24 January 2009, 11:25 AM	#11
Spencer "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: US Posts: 1,338	In the same boats as you man. I tried the 233 on at the BH Boutique last week and instantly feel in love. I think with the slower economy and the release of the 312/320 we will definitly see AD's discounting the 233 this year, but probably no more than 10%, 15% max. __________________ I'm a perpetual kind of guy Resident Audemars Piguet Fanatic

24 January 2009, 12:15 PM	#12
brainbizz Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 608	It will be interesting to see what happens to the 233 and 270. I would suspect that the numbers will be decreased in the L series. I am not overly excited about the new 3 day movement. The GMT feature is lacking compared to the 233 or 270 since their is no indicator or scale to determine am or pm.

24 January 2009, 07:03 PM	#16
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	233 is my next Pannie. I really hope so.

27 January 2009, 12:49 PM	#30
Spencer "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: US Posts: 1,338	Like this? __________________ I'm a perpetual kind of guy Resident Audemars Piguet Fanatic

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