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Join Date: Mar 2018
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Submariner 168000 - Authentic?
I'm new to the forum and new to Rolex. I'm seeking your expertise on the authenticity of this Submariner 168000 transition. It is owned by father. After his stroke 3 years ago, he is unable to tell me whether it is authentic.
After reading the reference guides and various posts, I'm about 90% certain that it is authentic. Here are the pros and cons: Pros: - Reference 168000 and serial 972XXXX (1987) line up with period when 168000 were made. - "ORIG ROLEX DESIGN" is correct for 1987. - Reference, serial, "STAINLESS STEEL," and "ORIG ROLEX DESIGN" etchings look nice and deep. Etchings are evenly aligned. - 3035 movement is correct. - Inside case back is properly engraved with 16800. - Triplock crown is proper. - Watch is very quiet when running. - Drilled lug holes. Cons: - Date wheel shows closed 6, 9, and so on. Date wheel may have been changed. - Watch looks "new" for a 31 year old watch. - Oyster bracelet is fake. Bracelet has jubilee bracelet model number. - No box or papers. Let me know your thoughts! Thanks in advance. |
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: south
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go to RSC and ask about the wheel date
put in the trash the fake oyster bracelet |
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Location: Texas
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The watch appears genuine. The clasp, as mentioned, is not genuine.
If the $5 service date wheel bothers you, have it replaced.
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Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: United states
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As mentioned datewheel should be an open 6 and 9 and slighty off white, 16800 was the last to have a silver brushed finish... Clasp is fake, check the bracelet should have a 93150 with a with a round top 3 in the number and the end links should be 593 and not a flat 3 but a round top 3...
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