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punta del este · 1 July 2019, 10:48 PM

Hi,

I am looking to purchase a new time only dress watch from Patek Philippe and was looking to get some advice on what models would depreciate the least or maybe even hold its value.

I have a mix of various brands, a few vintage watches and a some contemporary, but they are all Chronographs or Perpetual Calendars.

I want to buy something that is simple yet classic so is there anything from the brand that I should be looking at.

Fat_ninja · 1 July 2019, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by punta del este

Hi,

I am looking to purchase a new time only dress watch from Patek Philippe and was looking to get some advice on what models would depreciate the least or maybe even hold its value.

I have a mix of various brands, a few vintage watches and a some contemporary, but they are all Chronographs or Perpetual Calendars.

I want to buy something that is simple yet classic so is there anything from the brand that I should be looking at.

They will all depreciate. But I recommend getting a 5196R

Sam Philip · 1 July 2019, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by punta del este

Hi,

I am looking to purchase a new time only dress watch from Patek Philippe and was looking to get some advice on what models would depreciate the least or maybe even hold its value.

I have a mix of various brands, a few vintage watches and a some contemporary, but they are all Chronographs or Perpetual Calendars.

I want to buy something that is simple yet classic so is there anything from the brand that I should be looking at.

As mentioned above 5196 in any metal is an excellent choice and will depreciate less compared to other time only Calatravas. I would recommend 5196P

Humble michael · 1 July 2019, 11:41 PM

Buy a pre- owned one on EBay - use pay pal for payt.)

Ichiran · 1 July 2019, 11:52 PM

I'm not an expert but I think the 5212 will retain value well. However it's not time only.

jon_jon · 1 July 2019, 11:52 PM

If you get a SS Calatrava, you will have the best chance at value retention.

Russell996 · 2 July 2019, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ichiran

I'm not an expert but I think the 5212 will retain value well. However it's not time only.

I was going to also suggest the 5212.

lord91 · 2 July 2019, 02:14 AM

How about the 5227?

RHIII · 2 July 2019, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

They will all depreciate. But I recommend getting a 5196R

Agree with this 100%

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benlee · 2 July 2019, 02:31 AM

Calatrava fits the bill. 5227 will be my choice

KBM · 2 July 2019, 02:41 AM

Another vote vor the 5227, especially in rg. Gorgeous.

Aquaman · 2 July 2019, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ichiran

I'm not an expert but I think the 5212 will retain value well. However it's not time only.

It wil. Fly for the 1st couple of years, but who knows after that

Rushne · 2 July 2019, 04:25 AM

I’d be torn between the 5227 and the 5196P

Justindo · 2 July 2019, 12:15 PM

I would personally look at Lange, Vacheron, or even Breguet or JLC over a Patek Calatrava these days but if you're set on Patek, the 5196 in whatever metal you prefer is a safe bet, although it will certainly depreciate.

kneedeep · 2 July 2019, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rushne

I’d be torn between the 5227 and the 5196P

Either of these bought right.

EdwardC · 2 July 2019, 12:51 PM

5227 white gold white face

toucan · 2 July 2019, 01:13 PM

5196p

CoyoteCreekCir · 3 July 2019, 07:39 AM

I do not know if Tiffany London sells Pateks but if you can pick up a 5119G double sign then it will retain or possibly increase its value.

rebel_1 · 3 July 2019, 08:15 AM

Does the 5196P have a hinges case back like the 5227? There seems to be a clasp looking part on the case back.

ts3 · 3 July 2019, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rebel_1

Does the 5196P have a hinges case back like the 5227? There seems to be a clasp looking part on the case back.

No hinges, just press fit with a handle / lever to lift the case back.

Fat_ninja · 3 July 2019, 08:40 AM

U need pics

AK797 · 3 July 2019, 08:56 AM

I'd go for the 5212, but you will need connections.

Fat_ninja · 3 July 2019, 08:58 AM

Y’all recommending a 5212 Lol That’s like telling the guys on the rolex side to go get a Pepsi.

ts3 · 3 July 2019, 09:07 AM

The OP wants sth simple yet classic - ruling out the 5212 right there IMO. The 5196R or J is the way forward... if the OP is 100% sure he cannot live w buying preowned...

PatekSF · 4 July 2019, 06:25 AM

5036 with or without a bracelet is a GREAT value.

MILGAUSS88 · 8 July 2019, 02:16 PM

Another vote for the 5196p.
It has a unique dial, not available on other current models.

GB-man · 8 July 2019, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ts3

The OP wants sth simple yet classic - ruling out the 5212 right there IMO. The 5196R or J is the way forward... if the OP is 100% sure he cannot live w buying preowned...

Op did not ask for which patek has caveman handwriting on it

agree 5196 pick your metal and buy preowned. Minimal value in simple patek. Almost recommend skipping straight to a pc for 40k.

d11n · 8 July 2019, 02:27 PM

+1 5196, any metal that you prefer, I chose G

punta del este · 8 July 2019, 07:56 PM

Thanks everyone for the advice, going to start looking at a few of the options suggested in the AD

1 July 2019, 10:48 PM	#1
punta del este "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: UK Posts: 130	Question for the Patek Experts Hi, I am looking to purchase a new time only dress watch from Patek Philippe and was looking to get some advice on what models would depreciate the least or maybe even hold its value. I have a mix of various brands, a few vintage watches and a some contemporary, but they are all Chronographs or Perpetual Calendars. I want to buy something that is simple yet classic so is there anything from the brand that I should be looking at.

2 July 2019, 02:31 AM	#10
benlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Ben Location: SIN & JKT Watch: Rolex, AP, PP Posts: 9,874	Calatrava fits the bill. 5227 will be my choice __________________ Follow me on Instagram : benlee789

2 July 2019, 04:25 AM	#13
Rushne 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Watch: White 116500LN Posts: 878	I’d be torn between the 5227 and the 5196P __________________ Omega: Seamaster Professional 300M 2220.80.00 Rolex: Daytona White Dial 116500LN Rolex: Sky-Dweller Blue Dial Jubilee 336934 Rolex: DateJust 36 Roman White Dial Oyster 126234 Rolex: OP 36 Celebration Dial 126000 Panerai: PAM 422 Patek Philippe: Aquanaut 5167A A. Lange & Söhne: 1815 Annual Calendar @mechanicaltom Stolen: IWC Portuguese 500107 Case number 3853222

3 July 2019, 08:15 AM	#19
rebel_1 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 2,131	Does the 5196P have a hinges case back like the 5227? There seems to be a clasp looking part on the case back. __________________ Official Member: 'Perpetual 30' Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017

4 July 2019, 06:25 AM	#25
PatekSF "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Client n.9 Location: Upper Volta Watch: what I like to do Posts: 444	5036 with or without a bracelet is a GREAT value. __________________ I don't mind patina as long as it's my patina.

1 July 2019, 11:41 PM	#4
Humble michael "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: James Cline Location: san antonio Watch: 5711 white , 5990, Posts: 1,251	Buy a pre- owned one on EBay - use pay pal for payt.)

1 July 2019, 11:52 PM	#5
Ichiran 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Near beach Watch: PB1967 Posts: 8,315	I'm not an expert but I think the 5212 will retain value well. However it's not time only.

1 July 2019, 11:52 PM	#6
jon_jon "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 4,363	If you get a SS Calatrava, you will have the best chance at value retention.

2 July 2019, 02:14 AM	#8
lord91 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Bucuresti Watch: a Rolex duo Posts: 2,089	How about the 5227?

2 July 2019, 02:41 AM	#11
KBM 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: K. Location: 780 Posts: 10,481	Another vote vor the 5227, especially in rg. Gorgeous.

2 July 2019, 12:15 PM	#14
Justindo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: California Posts: 2,176	I would personally look at Lange, Vacheron, or even Breguet or JLC over a Patek Calatrava these days but if you're set on Patek, the 5196 in whatever metal you prefer is a safe bet, although it will certainly depreciate.

2 July 2019, 12:51 PM	#16
EdwardC 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Pacific Posts: 3,857	5227 white gold white face

2 July 2019, 01:13 PM	#17
toucan "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: NYC Watch: 5970 Posts: 1,980	5196p

3 July 2019, 07:39 AM	#18
CoyoteCreekCir "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 24	I do not know if Tiffany London sells Pateks but if you can pick up a 5119G double sign then it will retain or possibly increase its value.

3 July 2019, 08:40 AM	#21
Fat_ninja Banned Join Date: May 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: USA Watch: P-01 Posts: 11,772	U need pics

3 July 2019, 08:56 AM	#22
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	I'd go for the 5212, but you will need connections.

3 July 2019, 08:58 AM	#23
Fat_ninja Banned Join Date: May 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: USA Watch: P-01 Posts: 11,772	Y’all recommending a 5212 Lol That’s like telling the guys on the rolex side to go get a Pepsi.

3 July 2019, 09:07 AM	#24
ts3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Europe Posts: 3,575	The OP wants sth simple yet classic - ruling out the 5212 right there IMO. The 5196R or J is the way forward... if the OP is 100% sure he cannot live w buying preowned...

8 July 2019, 02:16 PM	#26
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 3,264	Another vote for the 5196p. It has a unique dial, not available on other current models.

8 July 2019, 02:27 PM	#28
d11n "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: UTC/GMT -8 hours Watch: yes Posts: 415	+1 5196, any metal that you prefer, I chose G

8 July 2019, 07:56 PM	#29
punta del este "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: UK Posts: 130	Thanks everyone for the advice, going to start looking at a few of the options suggested in the AD

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