Watch runs slow

[Jostack]

Originally Posted by myporsche

Be careful , there are members here who live for this stuff, who are WE to tell them how accurate their watches should be

I think Rolex are the ones who tell us how accurate our watches ‘should’ be, no?

[rod442]

After reading this whole thread and both seeing that the OP has asked about his watch running -1spd in this thread, and as much as 20s per month in another....

Multiple posters have mentioned that the watch is well within specs, and it is...
No one has actually stated what the spec is. I hate to assume that everyone knows....

So, Chicagowatchman…. are you aware that Rolex actual guarantee is either between -2/+2 seconds per day, OR on older models up to -4/+6 seconds per day.

Which means either case, your watch is indeed within the range of what Rolex deem "normal". I would also think that most on here would be extremely happy that their watch is under 20sec per month off. Mine have been better +- .2 spd. Both worn and on a winder, but I feel that is just luck. If it happened to be 2 spd, not POINT two... its just as accurate as rolex feels it should be.


This post isn't intended to be condescending at all, its just that I see lots of people stating that its fine; without actually giving the reason why its fine.

Enjoy your watch, its running as a fine swiss timepiece should.

[chicagowatchman]

It not a problem being only 30 seconds a month

[chicagowatchman]

Originally Posted by rod442

After reading this whole thread and both seeing that the OP has asked about his watch running -1spd in this thread, and as much as 20s per month in another....

Multiple posters have mentioned that the watch is well within specs, and it is...
No one has actually stated what the spec is. I hate to assume that everyone knows....

So, Chicagowatchman…. are you aware that Rolex actual guarantee is either between -2/+2 seconds per day, OR on older models up to -4/+6 seconds per day.

Which means either case, your watch is indeed within the range of what Rolex deem "normal". I would also think that most on here would be extremely happy that ththaneir watch is under 20sec per month off. Mine have been better +- .2 spd. Both worn and on a winder, but I feel that is just luck. If it happened to be 2 spd, not POINT two... its just as accurate as rolex feels it should be.


This post isn't intended to be condescending at all, its just that I see lots of people stating that its fine; without actually giving the reason why its fine.

Enjoy your watch, its running as a fine swiss timepiece should.

Thanks for the information and kind reply

[chicagowatchman]

I took the watch off the winder and placed it face up for 24 hours and it gained 3 spd

[itsjknight]

Originally Posted by pauln

for the love of god...

lmao!

[Jostack]

Originally Posted by chicagowatchman

I took the watch off the winder and placed it face up for 24 hours and it gained 3 spd

If it loses 1spd on the wrist, you should be able to rest it overnight dial up and gain that second back. You should be able to get pretty close to 0spd. That is a pretty ideal situation.

[chicagowatchman]

Originally Posted by Jostack

If it loses 1spd on the wrist, you should be able to rest it overnight dial up and gain that second back. You should be able to get pretty close to 0spd. That is a pretty ideal situation.

Thanks for the reply!

[padi56]

Originally Posted by SearChart

It is within Rolex spec, why would you be worried?

Have to agree Bas just cannot understand why some worry over 1 second either way out of 86400 in a day.Wish that was all I had to worry about, my priority is as long as I can still see the time on my watch it proves I am still alive.

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by padi56

Have to agree Bas just cannot understand why some worry over 1 second either way out of 86400 in a day.Wish that was all I had to worry about, my priority is as long as I can still see the time on my watch it proves I am still alive.

I know right.. I have the most expensive Witschi timegraphers to my disposal, radio controlled clocks and watchmaking skill. I never set my watches to the second, never even had most of them on the timegrapher to check, couldn't care less about it

[cswjames]

Hi chicagowatchman, I too obsess a bit over accuracy. I'm hoping to become more like those on here who don't care about the odd second here or there and just love their watches. In any event you seem to be in great position because, as jostack said, you can use positional regulation to keep a perfect rate. I myself haven't found the magic position that compensates for my -1spd on the wrist. You should be well happy!��

[Jostack]

Originally Posted by cswjames

Hi chicagowatchman, I too obsess a bit over accuracy. I'm hoping to become more like those on here who don't care about the odd second here or there and just love their watches. In any event you seem to be in great position because, as jostack said, you can use positional regulation to keep a perfect rate. I myself haven't found the magic position that compensates for my -1spd on the wrist. You should be well happy!��

My DJ41 was running slow (-3.5). I couldn’t find a resting position to compensate. I had the AD watchmaker take a look and he regulated it to run a little fast (+3). They also provided the timing analysis/results and I’m able to use crown down to rest overnight to compensate. One thing to note though, resting crown down, leaning on the bracelet does not provide consistent results to dial back the speed overnight. The slight angle does change the speed enough that I have to rest it on a cushion, crown down to keep it perpendicular to retard the speed enough.

And before those of you who don’t care about accuracy chime in, please save it. Use your ‘not caring’ to ‘not care’ enough to respond. It’s my watch and I happen to expect it to at the very least meet the specification that I was sold. That is hardly unreasonable.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by chicagowatchman

Just got my day date back from service and it is running one second slow per day should I be concerned over this could it actually speed up a bit over time

It's very well within spec.
And it's highly unlikely that it will change in the short term based on past experience. In the much longer term, yes it will change as it gets closer to needing a service again.
Enjoy your mechanical watch and don't sweat the smallest stuff

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Jostack

My DJ41 was running slow (-3.5). I couldn’t find a resting position to compensate. I had the AD watchmaker take a look and he regulated it to run a little fast (+3). They also provided the timing analysis/results and I’m able to use crown down to rest overnight to compensate. One thing to note though, resting crown down, leaning on the bracelet does not provide consistent results to dial back the speed overnight. The slight angle does change the speed enough that I have to rest it on a cushion, crown down to keep it perpendicular to retard the speed enough.

And before those of you who don’t care about accuracy chime in, please save it. Use your ‘not caring’ to ‘not care’ enough to respond. It’s my watch and I happen to expect it to at the very least meet the specification that I was sold. That is hardly unreasonable.

You seem to be going about it in the right way.
Your choices are as follows.
Either have it opened up again in pursuit of better accuracy and potentially wear the consequences, and then hope it doesn't change in any way in the run down to the inevitable service and hope you don't have to go through it all again.

Or get rid of the watch due to the irreconcilable gap in your expectations and a degree of reality.

Keep in mind that precision is more important. Accuracy is a relatively inconsistent measure and is subject to a great many factors. In ways, accuracy is the equivalent of low hanging fruit for the prolitariat.
You can work around or with the accuracy thing if precision is evident. By your account, you watch displays outstanding precision

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by padi56

Have to agree Bas just cannot understand why some worry over 1 second either way out of 86400 in a day.Wish that was all I had to worry about, my priority is as long as I can still see the time on my watch it proves I am still alive.

Agreed.
Whilst I admire a watch that is as close as possible to being absolutely accurate in real terms.
We need to obsess less about it and live in the moment.

People who get hung up on accuracy probably ought to go and get a great high tech thermo compensated quartz watch for their daily wearer and keep the mechanical watch for going out or special occasions.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Jostack

If it loses 1spd on the wrist, you should be able to rest it overnight dial up and gain that second back. You should be able to get pretty close to 0spd. That is a pretty ideal situation.

Yes, but they can also set it 30 seconds ahead of the reference time or even a minute ahead.
Then in practical terms they wouldn't theoretically be late to a meeting until they re-set the watch for a date change.
That is assuming the watch has a date and their time management skills are developed enough.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by chicagowatchman

I took the watch off the winder and placed it face up for 24 hours and it gained 3 spd

Sensational.
Now you don't have to worry about it for a few days and you know how to make it up at your digression.
That's exactly what this whole mechanical watch thing is all about. Have a bit of fun and enjoy

[polaris72]

Originally Posted by chicagowatchman

It’s on a orbita winder

I have Orbita winders too and my Exp I runs -2 s/d when on winder. The Exp is more accurate if I wear it all day and overnight in my watch drawer.

[chicagowatchman]

Thanks again for all the information

[Tools]

It's summertime coming up.

Temperature will affect timing of a mechanical watch, so let's see what mid-summer looks like.

[chicagowatchman]

Will

Originally Posted by Tools

It's summertime coming up.

Temperature will affect timing of a mechanical watch, so let's see what mid-summer looks like.

Does temperature have to do with how a watch runs? Will hotter weather make a watch run fast or slow

[Brny11]

1800 posts and your asking about a second a day? It’s fine.


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[Rolexoman]

When I first got my DJII which was purchased thru a grey dealer the watch had never been worn and still had all tags and labels so after wearing it a month it was running 8-10 secs fast everyday so by weeks end was approx 1 min fast and after asking and asking and worrying and worrying I tried to live with it but just could not let it go so I set it to the RSC in Dallas and about 4 weeks later it came back and no matter the resting position it is usually +1 sec but when wearing its +3 and on some days 4 but I have finally figured out and accepted that even at 4 secs fast it’s not the end of the world so what I do is once every few weeks I just set it and forget it.

As pointed out to me by Padi56 and others Rolex tests this movements and sets them to run +/-2 on the average of 5 positions but wearing one the way we swing our wrist and hands around adds to the mix, maybe in a few years if it’s gets worst I will send it back in as I still have several several years of warranty left

[chicagowatchman]

Update after 2 months my watch lost 17 seconds
I think that is pretty awesome 👏

[123Blueface]

Originally Posted by chicagowatchman

Update after 2 months my watch lost 17 seconds
I think that is pretty awesome 👏

Congrats!
You are truly blessed.

[fsprow]

Please get a Microstella tool and open the case back. Then fiddle with the weights until you are happy. Then wish you had left it as it was.

Only kidding.

[Mr.Rolex1]

Originally Posted by 123Blueface

Congrats!
You are truly blessed.

[billfredericks]

Sell it.

[Muxi]

Originally Posted by chicagowatchman

Update after 2 months my watch lost 17 seconds
I think that is pretty awesome 👏

Great! Try to keep manually regulating it. It’s good that you found a position where it gains a few seconds. I am a bit OC myself and don’t like my watch losing seconds. I prefer + seconds.