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Old 1 April 2014, 01:37 PM   #31
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Post the shop name and location, his name or alleged name and a picture of your watch and serial number to try and locate it. I know its a long shot but can't hurt.
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Old 28 April 2014, 11:38 PM   #32
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Wall street Jewelers was the name of the Shop located in NYC...
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Old 29 April 2014, 12:09 AM   #33
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Seems like Marvin has a facebook page...
Shaming him among friends & family is a good start.

Looks like you have already done that or you are not the only one?
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Old 29 April 2014, 12:19 AM   #34
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Seems like Marvin has a facebook page...
Shaming him among friends & family would be a good start.

Seems you have already done that or you are not the only one?

Can also take out an ad in some news papers stating he is a crook and scamster


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Old 29 April 2014, 03:38 AM   #35
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Man, that's grand larceny.
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Old 29 April 2014, 05:27 AM   #36
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saw this about marvin wall street jewellers....is this marvin?...it was public photo on wall street jewellers Facebook page.which doesn't look active for the past year..........i have no opinion on this (lawyers) but id be pretty pissed if true.....

saw this on the yelp page....

'Beware He is a thief. He took a lot of my money and never delivered the goods. Pls kindly contact me if you're looking to file a claim vs him. gsx323@gmail.com'
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Old 29 April 2014, 06:19 AM   #37
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Not really sure what is going on...
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Old 29 April 2014, 07:47 AM   #38
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Probably a good idea for everyone to have photos and serial numbers of all their watches.

If something happens, at least your police report will be complete.

I wish you better luck in the future.
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Old 29 April 2014, 08:25 AM   #39
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Unless he gets some dental work, Marvin's chipmunk grin is going to be hard to conceal, even with a hat or hairpiece.

Having been in a fairly high profile location for so long, it seems that he likely hoodwinked someone whose pride is equal to his resources.

He must have crossed many paths in 35 years on Wall St.
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Old 29 April 2014, 08:53 AM   #40
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fk.

i hate these stories.

good luck with sorting this out.
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Old 30 April 2014, 12:43 AM   #41
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This sounds odd... How would a guy from a prominent location disappear with a watch after doing 35 years of business? He sure made some money through all these years and I doubt that a price of two watches is worth ruining reputation and people's lives. Are you sure that there is nothing else to this story? Is the guy even alive?
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Old 30 April 2014, 01:11 AM   #42
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I know, I know I'm still the master of the obvious, but you did file a formal complaint with the states AG's office right?
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Old 30 April 2014, 01:12 AM   #43
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Not really sure what is going on...
IMHO it is time to file "theft by conversion" charges in his jurisdiction. You were likely one of many people whose property was entrusted to him. You will need your claim check and file the report before any statute of limitations kick in.

Then file civil suit (maybe small claims in NY?).

Lastly, file insurance claim to cement your rights (if any) covered by homeowners policy.

It happens all the time in small businesses - laundry cleaners, pawnshops, appliance repair shops, etc. They suddenly go under and lots of people get hurt until authorities step in. But they can't help until they know who to help, and what the various victims are claiming...

Good luck in this
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Old 30 April 2014, 01:24 AM   #44
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BTW - his phone # is on that Facebook page (914) 486-6789 and (from reverse look-ups) it appears active on the Sprint network with the owner in Mount Kisco, NY...
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Old 17 May 2014, 01:16 PM   #45
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Just joined this forum after finding this post in a search. Sorry to hear this happened to you, this guy is a complete criminal and I had a similar experience.

I too had a trusted friend recommend Marvin very highly. So much so that I was willing to go with his unconventional business practice of having a guy come to my office to pick up a check for an ordered piece of jewelry. Gave him $3,000 for a simple solitaire diamond necklace.

This, he delivered, but upon inspection it was clear that I did not get the great deal my friend said he always delivers. The diamond was very poor quality, with black inclusions visible to the naked eye! I called him right away and said he needed to take it back. After a short discussion, he agreed to take it back and issue me a store credit that would be applied toward a Cartier watch.

I ordered the watch the next week and he assured me it would get to me in a month. That came and went, and another month, and many more. We exchanged several calls and emails where he gave me the "backordered" story I'm now learning was his usual scam. Finally I went down to his office and before I even started to ask for anything, he goes nuts and starts yelling "I'm not going to spend one minute talking to you", then offers me 70% off of anything in his "showcase" (which is filled with garbage), and finally proceeds to ignore me. The woman who worked with him knew to go into the back as soon as Marvin went into crazy mode - this obviously happened a lot.

Then I filed a complaint with the BBB - his responses were the handwritten screeds of a crook who's fooled himself into thinking he's not a crook - very amusing. Unfortunately the BBB has no power to do anything and after a month of back and forth, they gave up and closed the matter as unresolved. Somehow their website then displayed an "A+" for Marvin, because of a policy they have of rewarding businesses just for responding at all (no matter how crazily). I had to call BBB several times to correct this and get the misleading A+ removed.

Long story short, I put together a file of all our correspondence and a voicemail that clearly shows he had agreed to deliver a ladies Cartier watch, and was ready to file a complaint when I learned that his store is closed. So he has my $3000 and I have nothing. I feel for the OP who lost his watches to this criminal. Thinking about this experience has ruined many a good mood since, and sadly prevented me from buying another watch for some time.

Based on the Yelp postings with the same story and what I'm seeing here, I'd bet there are tons completely unreported and he's made off with hundreds of thousands - if not millions - of dollars worth of his customers money and merchandise. It seems like with all these recommendations from friends and early positive reviews, he must have been legit for a long time. Then something must have snapped or he ran into financial problems, and Marvin decided to bank his credibility to steal for a few years before retiring.
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Old 17 May 2014, 10:11 PM   #46
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Good luck on getting restitution or justice.....
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Old 18 May 2014, 01:52 AM   #47
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I am really sorry to hear this stevenyc, but thanks for giving more background on the operations of this criminal. I hope there is some remediation possible through police authorities for you and the OP.
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Old 29 June 2014, 07:45 AM   #48
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Know the feeling, took my watch of on a building site and now its gone :( motherf#cker


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Old 29 June 2014, 07:55 AM   #49
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Fire island shirt. My son has a house there, and I visit him at his bar, I'll play private eye and let you know if I spot him!!
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Old 29 June 2014, 09:07 AM   #50
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Sad news. And pretty stupid as he is an obvious mark as he seems to have been well known.

Personally, I am among the 1% of the population that would NOT let him get off with this
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Old 29 June 2014, 11:04 PM   #51
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These are some reviews on Marvin Rafeld...He is obviously a scam artist.
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Old 29 June 2014, 11:12 PM   #52
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OMG he fooled apparently a lot of people . . .

Really sad

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Old 29 June 2014, 11:18 PM   #53
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Guys ,police is not taking care scumbags like Marvin?my intention was the law enforcement is pretty tough in the US ,at least comparing to the EU.
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Old 29 June 2014, 11:36 PM   #54
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You may want to try contacting him through his wife
http://www.sothebysrealty.com/eng/as...7/cindy-rafeld

Here's her Facebook with Marvin and their son as a profile pic
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Old 29 June 2014, 11:41 PM   #55
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Hire an investigator. Nowadays they can use all sorts of databases to track people down. The police are swamped with cases; a PI will be working for YOU. Just an idea.
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Old 29 June 2014, 11:50 PM   #56
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This is why you should never pay the whole amount. Only the deposit required. As for giving him watches to then sell, that is a bit risky as you have found out. Better to sell to a dealer who then sells, if a dealer can't afford to buy stock then I would be wary of how they did business.
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Old 29 June 2014, 11:57 PM   #57
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I like this ...depending on how it pans out I might take matters into my own hands
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Old 6 December 2014, 02:09 AM   #58
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So a little bit up an update... the DA is still investigating, but sai this case should have some sort of answer by year end...

I dont think anyone is gonna get there money or watches back, if he had the funds to do so he would have never been in this situation.

I think about this all the time... and urks me that i got caught in his ponzi scheme

He had a great scam basically just rolling credit and money until finally he was all tapped out!

like i stated I had plenty of friends that did business with Marvin over the last few years, and had no complaints which is why I trusted him.

I am really really upset in words that i cant describe, I cringe on a weekly basis, that I got taken! but with an investigation this big its best in the hands of the law.


he took me for:

for Cash
a vintage Rolex 5513 Sub ( which makes me mad the most)
a breitling montbrillant datora
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Old 6 December 2014, 07:32 AM   #59
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Not much to say, still wishing the best for you. Good Luck.
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Old 6 December 2014, 07:50 AM   #60
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fingers crossed ,, hope something works out.
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