Rolex and James Bond

[csaltphoto]

Originally Posted by bayerische

Can't grip the fascination with what "Bond" wears... What does Donald Duck wear?

Mickey Mouse watch?

[Latrodectus]

Originally Posted by STEELINOX

I'll just leave "this" here...

https://www.rolexmagazine.com/search?q=James+bond

Great link... Thanks Sink-O

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by bayerische

Couldn't give a dime about what "Bond" wears. He is a fictional character, unlike the others you mentioned.

Can't grip the fascination with what "Bond" wears... What does Donald Duck wear?

A Submariner because his ankle is under water a lot?

[Avs Fan]

Ian Fleming referred to Rolex as also being useful as a "knuckle-duster" in his novel Casio Royal

[RobearH]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

Marlboro made some of the best vocal recordings in the history of popular music?

Originally Posted by NoVaSubowner

Oh boy.......

1. Bond is not real. He lives somewhere in the same dimension as Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and Sauron....

2. Rolex never got or gets into cinematic product placement. Connery got his sub because one of the crew shooting Dr. No noticed the actor did not have a watch, the story is that Cubby Broccoli gave him his personal Sub thus linking the Sub with Bond myth for perpetuity.

3. I don't know how anyone can deny the tremendous personal and physical accomplishment demonstrated by Tiger Woods yesterday, the fact that the man has faced incredible personal issues makes this win all the more admirable.

I personally see more of value in Rolex using Tiger as a spokesperson then the endless obsession with a fictional alcoholic, sociopathic spy who let's face it, was so public and flamboyant in his comings and goings, he probably would have gotten clipped moments after checking in under his real name at a 5 diamond hotel.....

Great post

p.s. I was way more entertained by the real life sports drama the Masters provided yesterday then by any fictional James Bond movie could ever provide.

[Chester01]

Yes, well we all know rolex was in Fleming’s novels. The play for omega was simply
for advertising dollars.

[johnhargrovejr]

Originally Posted by bayerische View Post
Can't grip the fascination with what "Bond" wears... What does Donald Duck wear?

Originally Posted by csaltphoto

Mickey Mouse watch?

This is the best post in the entire thread!

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by bayerische

What does Donald Duck wear?

Well, he doesn't wear pants, so let's hope that doesn't catch on.

[johnhargrovejr]

Here's another good Bond watch movie timeline by WatchTime. They also provide a good look at the variety of other (non Rolex, Omega) watches used in the series. Great photos.

https://www.watchtime.com/featured/watches-james-bond/

[inadeje]

The whole fallacy surrounding the speedmaster is comical. The moonwatch came over a decade after the original speedmaster, which itself was a broad arrow and, not the later stick hand variant. I know its off topic a bit but, purists who want the real speedmaster should technically get the broad arrow and, preferably, a 1957 variant. Anyone agree? Or am I on my own?

[inadeje]

The Man with the Golden Gun - my 5513 with a nato that, contrary to popular belief, no james bond ever wore...

[jaroush]

Originally Posted by drjrhc

Omega, or “Omeega”, actually appeared in the Pierce Brosnan movies. “Goldeneye” was the first, if I recall.

I really don’t get what Rolex lovers get out of dissing or putting down Omega. They are making some great timepieces right now. As are Rolex.

Both great “houses” to purchase from, IMHO.

Anyone who really looks closely knows that many of the Omega models are superior to the equivalent Rolex models.

[Junior_]

Originally Posted by jaroush

Anyone who really looks closely knows that many of the Omega models are superior to the equivalent Rolex models.

Oh no he didn’t!

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Junior_

Oh no he didn’t!

I have mixed feelings on the matter. I admire Omega, and recognize the quality in their watches. I also think on a dollar-for-dollar basis, especially factoring in aftermarket pricing (which absolutely favors the buyer, not the seller), they offer more for the money than Rolex. I've owned a few over the years, including the Seamaster 300 Master Co-Axial, which remains their flagship diver by price. It was a very well-made watch in a lot of respects, and while the quality differences between it and the SubC were subtle, they added up to a point where the Sub had an overall bearing of being higher quality. I certainly would not say the Seamaster was superior to the Sub. Then again, I wouldn't say the Sub seemed like it was worth more than double what the Seamaster 300 goes for in the gray market. I don't mean that as a knock against Omega, or as a Rolex-can-do-no-wrong fanboy. It was just my honest observation.

[inadeje]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

I have mixed feelings on the matter. I admire Omega, and recognize the quality in their watches. I also think on a dollar-for-dollar basis, especially factoring in aftermarket pricing (which absolutely favors the buyer, not the seller), they offer more for the money than Rolex. I've owned a few over the years, including the Seamaster 300 Master Co-Axial, which remains their flagship diver by price. It was a very well-made watch in a lot of respects, and while the quality differences between it and the SubC were subtle, they added up to a point where the Sub had an overall bearing of being higher quality. I certainly would not say the Seamaster was superior to the Sub. Then again, I wouldn't say the Sub seemed like it was worth more than double what the Seamaster 300 goes for in the gray market. I don't mean that as a knock against Omega, or as a Rolex-can-do-no-wrong fanboy. It was just my honest observation.

I agree. Apples-to-Apples it isn’t though. Twice the retail price in most comparable cases. Omega (for the price) are good watches but, only if buying used. Re-Sale value is nightmarish

[UNCLE27]

Originally Posted by inadeje

The Man with the Golden Gun - my 5513 with a nato that, contrary to popular belief, no james bond ever wore...

Absolutely beautiful example! Looks great on that Bond NATO too.
But your comment on Bond not wearing it was not strictly accurate. While that Bond NATO became a mythical strap supposedly worn in Goldfinger and Thunderball, it was later shown that he actually wore a nylon strap in different colour scheme, single piece and with a cloth keeper.

However, Craig later wore a 6238 Submariner on a NATO like your one off-set and then in SPECTRE Bond wore his Seamaster on the Omega NATO in the same colour scheme.

[Roddypeepa]

No doubt at all the new seamaster
300m is a brilliant watch. However, the fact is it’ll be worth less than it cost by a wide margin in 10 years. And you could walk into almost any AD in the uk and pick one up today. If they took a leaf out of Rolex’s book and made it just a teeny bit harder to have then people
Would be coveting it more. Ditto the speedy. SM diver is a stunning watch and the attention to detail is superb though. Bang for buck is very good. But then so it is on a Pelagos.


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[Junior_]

Originally Posted by inadeje

I agree. Apples-to-Apples it isn’t though. Twice the retail price in most comparable cases. Omega (for the price) are good watches but, only if buying used. Re-Sale value is nightmarish

I’ll admit I’d love to add a Speedmaster to my collection. Other than that, though, not much in the Omega collection does much for me.

[wigdog63]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

Marlboro made some of the best vocal recordings in the history of popular music?

This is like a subplot to the main Bond movie

[Joeguy]

Originally Posted by Scholar

Your 'correction' doesn't add anything; I mentioned myself that he wears a Rolex towards the end of the series. I know Ian Fleming's life story and I've read the books many times. That quote is not in there.

The MilSub was issued to naval divers, which Bond was not. (And certainly book Bond, a World War II veteran, was not.)

He wore a Rolex in Casino Royale which I believe is the first book in the series. I’ll go double check.


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[gnuyork]

Originally Posted by Hub6152

The JB Wiki would seem to confirm WW2 service in the RNR.

“In 1941, James Bond lied about his age in order to enter the Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve during World War II, from which he emerged with the rank of Commander before joining MI6.”

Right, but I think I recall reading something about this in one of the novels too.

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

This is a summary of Bond's "service."

https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/arti..._dossier2.php3

Is this info derived from the cinematic Bond? I don't recall reading this detail in the novels, but have not finished the series yet.

[gnuyork]

Originally Posted by Avs Fan

Ian Fleming referred to Rolex as also being useful as a "knuckle-duster" in his novel Casio Royal

Yes, exactly...right in the first novel, Rolex makes an appearance.

Originally Posted by Joeguy

He wore a Rolex in Casino Royale which I believe is the first book in the series. I’ll go double check.


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Yup

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Roddypeepa

No doubt at all the new seamaster
300m is a brilliant watch. However, the fact is it’ll be worth less than it cost by a wide margin in 10 years.

Just to be clear, that wasn't the watch to which I was referring, although it may not change your point any. I was talking about the Seamaster 300 Master Co-Axial Chronometer, not the Seamaster Diver 300m Co-Axial Master Chronometer. (I'll never forgive Omega for adopting such cumbersome and easily confused names.)

Seamaster 300 Master Co-Axial Chronometer


Seamaster Diver 300m Co-Axial Master Chronometer

[Marlboro.]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

Just to be clear, that wasn't the watch to which I was referring, although it may not change your point any. I was talking about the Seamaster 300 Master Co-Axial Chronometer, not the Seamaster Diver 300m Co-Axial Master Chronometer. (I'll never forgive Omega for adopting such cumbersome and easily confused names.)

Seamaster 300 Master Co-Axial Chronometer


Seamaster Diver 300m Co-Axial Master Chronometer

The Seamaster 300 is an incredibly beautiful watch, if I were to ever buy an Omega diver that would definitely be it.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Marlboro.

The Seamaster 300 is an incredibly beautiful watch, if I were to ever buy an Omega diver that would definitely be it.

It is very nice overall, although I do wish they would do away with the faux-vintage lume. It was a novel (if questionable) idea in 2014, but it hasn't aged well, no pun intended. The model deserves better, imo.

[Scholar]

Originally Posted by mbrown55

Omega paid 10 million for their watch to appear in Spectre.

James Bond originator Ian Fleming said: "A gentleman's choice of timepiece says as much about him as does his Saville Row suit."

Ian Fleming not only wrote that his James Bond Character wore a Rolex, but Fleming himself, in fact, wore a stainless steel Rolex Explorer.

This quote is not from any of the books. That is my main gripe. Not to mention 'Savile' is misspelled here, and the writing style is not Fleming's. Seriously, look it up. You won't find it, or the first half of "It had to be a Rolex," anywhere but watch blogs and the like.

Originally Posted by Avs Fan

Ian Fleming referred to Rolex as also being useful as a "knuckle-duster" in his novel Casio Royal

No, that was in On Her Majesty's Secret Service, during the escape scene. He breaks it in the process and considers buying a replacement in the next after-Christmas sale.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Scholar

This quote is not from any of the books. That is my main gripe. Not to mention 'Savile' is misspelled here, and the writing style is not Fleming's. Seriously, look it up. You won't find it, or the first half of "It had to be a Rolex," anywhere but watch blogs and the like.



No, that was in On Her Majesty's Secret Service, during the escape scene. He breaks it in the process and considers buying a replacement in the next after-Christmas sale.

You live up to your screen name.

[jason10mm]

Originally Posted by UNCLE27

Absolutely beautiful example! Looks great on that Bond NATO too.
But your comment on Bond not wearing it was not strictly accurate. While that Bond NATO became a mythical strap supposedly worn in Goldfinger and Thunderball, it was later shown that he actually wore a nylon strap in different colour scheme, single piece and with a cloth keeper.

You mean this color NATO?:)

[Yobber76]

Originally Posted by Joeguy

He wore a Rolex in Casino Royale which I believe is the first book in the series. I’ll go double check.


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Yes he wore a Rolex in the Book Casino Royale. The model wasn't confirmed.
Casino Royale was the first book in the Bond series.

[doramas]

Originally Posted by mbrown55

Been thinking about Rolex and James Bond. The first super agent put the submariner in the public eye. Great product placement by Rolex. They got Hillary on the Everest summit and in the years that followed they got Cousteau, Jackie Stewart and Paul Newman, James Cameron.

Omega spent a fortune catching up and the NASA moon series was a coup for them while Bond moved on to some sad times even sporting a digital Casio.

Then comes the new Daniel Craig series. I don’t know for sure, but I’m guessing there was a hefty bidding war between Rolex and Omega to be on the wrist of the new 007. In Casino Royale, great attention is drawn to the watch in the scene on the train between Vesper and Bond in an overly gratuitous product placement. But even then, it must have killed the execs at Omega when Vesper’s first guess on his watch is “Rolex?”. When he replies “Omeeega” and she’s says it’s beautiful, we all know they both wanted it to have a coronet.

Hillary wasn't wearing a Rolex. He climbed Everest with a Smiths.



These false legends are nerve-wracking.