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Old 18 April 2021, 05:51 PM   #61
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Sounds like AD has had their email a/c hacked.
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Old 18 April 2021, 06:01 PM   #62
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Thanks Dave and I believe my gut reaction is correct.

I could call the AD and he has provided a phone number. But even if it did all seem OK, I'm confused as to why he would want 50% up front and paid into the SA personal bank account. I'm just not prepared to make such a transfer.

I will wait to I am able to vist the AD in person and then make an assessment.

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Don’t ever call them on a number they’ve provided. Phone them on a number you can obtain from the internet.
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Old 18 April 2021, 06:08 PM   #63
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Out of interest OP, did Harrods upgrade your legroom for that flight?
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Old 18 April 2021, 06:08 PM   #64
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why would they take your deposit when they could sell the daytona for cash instantly to anyone they want?
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Old 18 April 2021, 06:12 PM   #65
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Why would you wrire a letter to them in the first place? Best way is to literally call them and ask if the email is legit...
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Old 18 April 2021, 06:13 PM   #66
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Had the same situation with an AD in Europe. Got an email from tem that my Pepsi was available. Had to pay full deposit to a strange bank account. Verified the situation by calling the ad. Result: they got hacked and hacker sent the email from their account and deleted the sent emails.
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Old 18 April 2021, 06:17 PM   #67
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why would they take your deposit when they could sell the daytona for cash instantly to anyone they want?
Exactly - a scam
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Old 18 April 2021, 06:18 PM   #68
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Jack,

It is genuine account of what happened.

I have wanted a Daytona for a while. I was going abroad and thought I would write a hard copy letter (as I thought this would differ from the many emails they get).

The letter arrived and was signed for but it was only a while after that I got a response via email, the long and short of it being that they recieved only a few Daytona's a year and were in high demand.

The AD provided full bank details (but this was clearly a personal bank account) so I have basically taken the decision not to engage with him via email

Post a copy of the email you got back from the AD
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Old 18 April 2021, 06:24 PM   #69
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An AD willing to sell a Daytona to a customer from another country who has just contacted them via a cold call / email should raise red flags anyway. Strike 1.

Then the AD asking for 50% deposit should raise the second red flag. Strike 2

To a personal bank account is strike 3 but tbh you should have been done worst case by 2.
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Old 18 April 2021, 11:00 PM   #70
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I can't believe you people are responding to this. This is like D- trolling and you are giving legit responses.
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Old 18 April 2021, 11:10 PM   #71
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For all who have assisted with this thread many thanks.



I am not lying.



To clarify (and this is the last time I'm going to cotribute to this thread) there was a hard copy letter and I fail to see why some disbelieve this.



I chose to write a hard copy letter as I believed it would differentiate itself from the many calls and emails which AD's must get every day. I fail to understand why some people cannot believe a letter is still a means of comunication.



The letter yielded an email response which was a request was made by the AD to deposit funds into their own personal bank account by way of a desposit to secure the watch.



No lies that is exactly what happened



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Old 18 April 2021, 11:42 PM   #72
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I can't believe you people are responding to this. This is like D- trolling and you are giving legit responses.
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Old 18 April 2021, 11:51 PM   #73
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They're just watches. Scam or no scam. folks who have them to sell act as if they are the ones doing us a favor. They are not. Yet, so many make them feel as though they are - doing them a favor by 'allowing' them to take their money. BS. Legit or not, a 50% deposit required? Never.
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Old 19 April 2021, 02:07 AM   #74
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Run away. Let me guess... Is he the assistant of a Nigerian prince who knows the brother of Hans Wilsdorf‘s 4th cousin?
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Old 19 April 2021, 02:18 AM   #75
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Old 19 April 2021, 02:48 AM   #76
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Hi All,

I am travelling abroad in due course so I contacted an AD at the destination country with a view to obtaining a Daytona.

I've recieved an email earlier today confirming they will be able to supply one which seemed great but it now has gone South as the AD have confirmed they want a 50% deposit (despite me not yet arriving in the country).

Certainly seemed odd that the AD wanted the deposit wire transfered into his personal bank account............................
Sir,
Since you want to believe that this AD is for real, then definitely wire the money and go on your holiday to pick up the watch. If this buy from the “AD” fails to happen, DO NOT BLAME ANYONE ON TRF BECAUSE YOU WERE SEVERELY WARNED THAT THIS WAS A BIG SCAM.........
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Old 19 April 2021, 02:58 AM   #77
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A Daytona ready to pick-up in a destination country AD store seem very legit!
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Old 19 April 2021, 03:20 AM   #78
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Old 19 April 2021, 05:24 AM   #79
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Towards, or away from? Your response is ambiguous.

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Maybe give them a call. They have a rogue SA not following policy. Either way, that should answer your scam question.


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Jack,

It is genuine account of what happened.

I have wanted a Daytona for a while. I was going abroad and thought I would write a hard copy letter (as I thought this would differ from the many emails they get).

The letter arrived and was signed for but it was only a while after that I got a response via email, the long and short of it being that they recieved only a few Daytona's a year and were in high demand.

The AD provided full bank details (but this was clearly a personal bank account) so I have basically taken the decision not to engage with him via email
Was the email address a company or personal one?

If, after investigating, by some snowball's chance in hell, you determine this to be worth pursuing (with anybody other than the police), then:

a) You could always compromise on using a reputable escrow service.

b) I have a sure-thing investment opportunity I'd like to present to you...
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Old 19 April 2021, 06:57 AM   #80
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Wtf….
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Old 19 April 2021, 08:12 AM   #81
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When it looks too good to be true, then look twice.
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Old 19 April 2021, 11:06 AM   #82
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It has scam written all over it from the email to the 50% deposit to the personal bank account.
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Old 19 April 2021, 01:14 PM   #83
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Don’t do it!
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Old 19 April 2021, 10:25 PM   #84
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He’s assuming there’s a sucker born everyday.....and you were the one on that particular day.


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Old 20 April 2021, 04:23 AM   #85
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The watch is so hot they don't need to take a deposit. I'm perplexed as why they will sell you the Daytona with no buying exp when they can hold it and sell to someone local who buys another piece etc. Just sounds sketchy.
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Old 20 April 2021, 06:41 AM   #86
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seems like an email received last summer from a local AD that was going out of business. Come to find out, i believe the manager try to pull a fast one on me and others before the doors closed permanently. Luckily for me, if its too good to be true, it is.
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