How much alcohol do you drink per day?

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by Blansky

There used to be a saying, something about if you really want to find out if you should marry someone, go on a vacation with them. Or other variations, live with them.

I have a feeling when the Covid thing ends, that there are going to be a lot of divorces. Not saying this has anything to do with the OP, but a lot of people are perhaps finding that this cabin fever thing is not who they thought they signed up with.

Perhaps we weren't intended to spend so much time together. My wife and I are best buds but a lot of our friends situations are totally different.

My wife and I have been married 21 years, worked together (in the same hospital) for 10 years, desks next to each other in our office, carpool to/from work. I can’t believe she’s not been driven to the bottle

[FTX I]

Originally Posted by 1William

Once I stopped drinking, many of my former drinking friends dropped me from events and hanging out. When I asked them about this several said I was no fun and they did not like being around people that did not drink.

As they say if one doesn't drink after a couple rounds he gets inconvenient.

[dauster]

Originally Posted by wb55

Your consumption is quite high and the trend combined with the timing re Covid should be a concern, and that's before your wife's comments which should be cause for further concern.

No one is accusing you of being dependant on alcohol but it reads to me, a complete stranger who doesn't know you, that you are at least part way down that slippery slope. Go without alcohol for a full week which should prove to you and your wife there isn't a problem. When the week is up don't consume the amount you're currently consuming, cut down a bit. Try an alcohol free beer. Don't forget alcohol is a depressant and also ruins your sleep so I wouldn't want to be drinking 5 days per week anyway.

The other concern should be the parts I've quoted. Christmas is a natural time to fight for a lot of families, try not to make it too easy to fight over something so small. Lockdown has been hard enough already.

good advice especially in regards to sleep. In prior weeks where I didnt drink I did sleep much better.

[dauster]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Holy moly. That’s a little scary. I remember during a physical probably 15 years ago for the first time they asked as a routine question alcohol consumption. I considered it for a moment and then answered none of your business. All that gets documented forever. It can be used against you in the future for life insurance or even medical insurance. No thanks. Doctors here and even ask you other personal questions about items we are not allowed to discuss here on this forum. That’s also none of their business.

I knew this discussion on alcohol consumption would go exactly as it is going. Peoples opinion on this are always based on their own personal consumption. If you don’t drink then you think people that do drink too much. If you drink moderately (well moderately in your opinion) you think anyone that drinks more than you has a problem. Or if you drink heavily then you think anyone else that drinks heavily does not have a problem. What designates a problem? I’m telling you this is a remarkably subjective opinion because there’s literally dozens of different inputs all depending on an individual‘s own personal consumption. That goes for the opinion of doctors as well. If you really look into it that’s all across the board and there is no actually agreed to amount in the medical community. I can tell you this no one can ever say that anything positive happened in their life from drinking. The best the person can claim is something neutral happened. The rest is all bad. I’m not gonna argue with anyone on this because I’ve seen too much. I can guarantee the world would be better off if there was no such thing as alcohol or other mind altering substances.

very interesting point

[dauster]

Originally Posted by Atone

if you are on this forum trying to normalize your drinking, i suspect that's information enough.

I don't think I am trying to do anything - I don't understand why absolutely anything people say on the internet will be taken the wrong way.
I was just curious about other's people consumption and compare it to mine since I was hoping for more open/ honest feedback since people don't know each other - nothing else.

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by dauster

I don't think I am trying to do anything - I don't understand why absolutely anything people say on the internet will be taken the wrong way.
I was just curious about other's people consumption and compare it to mine since I was hoping for more open/ honest feedback since people don't know each other - nothing else.

The internet is like that. BUT I think the red flag went up in some people's minds when you mentioned that your wife made a point of saying it to you.

Maybe it's kind of like the Karaoke singer that has a few drinks and gets up and sings. And thinks he's a good singer and doing great. An impartial listener thinks....not so much.

[Knappo 1307]

Originally Posted by 1William

I have not had a drink in 5478 days. Sixteen years, short two days. I did not really like it that much to start with and decided with the second child that I would set it aside. What is funny about drinkers is they do not see the impact of alcohol on them or their relationships. Once I stopped drinking, many of my former drinking friends dropped me from events and hanging out. When I asked them about this several said I was no fun and they did not like being around people that did not drink. Take that for what it is but until you step away for a bit, you will not know. Give up the drinking for 60-90 days and see if you can. If not, you have an issue and it is not just the alcohol. Good luck, you are going to need it.

Sounds like they weren't true friends, and you are probably better off without them.

[-dustin]

Originally Posted by dauster

I was just curious about other's people consumption and compare it to mine since I was hoping for more open/ honest feedback since people don't know each other - nothing else.

these days, i drink 3 beers a week, maybe. in the middle of my wife's issues with alcohol, we'd likely each have 2-3 mexican martinis a night (that was before I realized what was going on).

[Goin2drt]

I do find this topic and the opinions fascinating. Someone above described it well with the replies. I also find it interesting and would love to talk in detail to those that haven't had alcohol for health or safety reasons in X thousands days. I get just not liking the taste. Taste is subjective.

However for those that think drinking one or 100 is so bad for you. I wonder if you all take that same caution across everything you do. For example do you also not speed, ever? You don't go sky diving? You don't try any extreme sport or ride motorcycles? I would assume that those that feel that powerful about the health issues with alcohol do not feel the same way about all the other things that could be far worse for your health wise. I am not being critical I seriously would love to know those facts as I think human decisions and ways of thought are fascinating.

End of the day I do not find anything bad in moderation and think people need to live their life. There are "risks" that I am willing to take and others that I am not. However if you are doing something in moderation I do not look down or fault anyone for LIVING THEIR LIFE.

Lastly my grandfather smoked unfiltered cigarettes starting at 14 and drank about 12-15 beers a day (Hamms if you call that beer), every day that I knew him. Also worked most of his life doing 2 jobs but mainly hard labor on the railroads. He died of old age at the ripe age of 95. He died happy and fulfilled. Not saying I would choose or tell anyone to choose this life but he lived a full one with no regrets.

[330ci]

Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

Sounds like they weren't true friends, and you are probably better off without them.

My thoughts as well, None of my friends had a problem, and some even took a break with me so I wasn’t doing it alone in the beginning. And if I want a sober buddy for the night, my best friends wife always is willing to forgo drinks with me.

[Pelicovert2]

Two beers a day. I just discovered this French beer called "Fischer" it's delicious and nutritious!

[pickettt]

“I’ve been doin’ coke for 20 years, and I still ain’t hooked” -Richard Pryor

[Wigwag]

I love a drink to be honest. I'll have 2 or 3 cans on an evening and maybe 10-12 pints on a Saturday. More in the summer. I'm in a good relationship, health is OK, successful career. Everyone's different, I guess.

[Sperry]

Originally Posted by pickettt

“I’ve been doin’ coke for 20 years, and I still ain’t hooked” -Richard Pryor

I'm not addicted to coke, i just love the way it smells!

[AK797]

I don't really drink, never liked the taste thankfully, and only use it medicinally when I wake in the middle of the night and can't get back to sleep, altho I do like the odd sipping rum and liqueurs but only with my cigars, and a nice Asahi with my steak.

[Atone]

Originally Posted by Sperry

I'm not addicted to coke, i just love the way it smells!

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by Goin2drt

I do find this topic and the opinions fascinating. Someone above described it well with the replies. I also find it interesting and would love to talk in detail to those that haven't had alcohol for health or safety reasons in X thousands days. I get just not liking the taste. Taste is subjective.

However for those that think drinking one or 100 is so bad for you. I wonder if you all take that same caution across everything you do. For example do you also not speed, ever? You don't go sky diving? You don't try any extreme sport or ride motorcycles? I would assume that those that feel that powerful about the health issues with alcohol do not feel the same way about all the other things that could be far worse for your health wise. I am not being critical I seriously would love to know those facts as I think human decisions and ways of thought are fascinating.

End of the day I do not find anything bad in moderation and think people need to live their life. There are "risks" that I am willing to take and others that I am not. However if you are doing something in moderation I do not look down or fault anyone for LIVING THEIR LIFE.

Lastly my grandfather smoked unfiltered cigarettes starting at 14 and drank about 12-15 beers a day (Hamms if you call that beer), every day that I knew him. Also worked most of his life doing 2 jobs but mainly hard labor on the railroads. He died of old age at the ripe age of 95. He died happy and fulfilled. Not saying I would choose or tell anyone to choose this life but he lived a full one with no regrets.

Um....(clears throat, coughs, clears throat). Define moderation with alcohol consumption please.

PS-99% of human beings that consume 12 to 15 beers a day and smoke unfiltered or any cigarettes from the age of 18 on won’t make it past their 50s. Your grandfather was remarkably lucky.

[superdog]

My pals all drink.

I drink too. A lot. But slowing down considerably.

I sleep better, I poop better, and I tend to feel better about myself.

Stopping is relatively easy. But I admit I like to drink. A few vodkas day. Weekends much more than that.

Started just not drinking Sunday’s. Then added Monday’s. I entertain a lot for work tho, so it’s not overly easy in that regard.

My wife would love to see me drink less. But I’m almost never drunk. Never have a problem doing what needs done. And have been relatively successful over the years.

Do I have a problem? Some people certainly say “yes”. Many others I know would say “no”.

But as I age, it’s not conducive to the person I want to be. I love early morning workouts. Drinking doesn’t help that. It doesn’t help with needless calories either. And I’m noticing most of my ailments are exacerbated with booze.

So it’s time to stop. Not completely. Again, I like drinking. But I’ve already slowed down quite a bit. Time to trim it even further.

My observation is that if you are asking the question, something is wrong. Does it mean there is a problem? Depends on each individual to determine that for themselves, imo.

[mountainjogger]

Originally Posted by pickettt

About 16oz. every 36 months or so. Ultimately, it doesn't matter what any of us thinks.....your wife is the one that matters.

Our spouses must be related.

[Dr.Brian]

You drink a lot.
Is it dangerous? Probably to your health, assuming you aren’t buzzed driving, etc.
Is it a problem? Only you can answer that.
The real questions are why are you drinking and why did your wife bring it to your attention.
I drink between 0 and 6 drinks a week btw. 2+ times that in college and medical school.
Probably average 2/wk.
What does the government say? 1-2 drinks a day are probably safe. The science isn’t cut and dry.

[junamuan]

Originally Posted by Dr.Brian

You drink a lot.
Is it dangerous? Probably to your health, assuming you aren’t buzzed driving, etc.
Is it a problem? Only you can answer that.
The real questions are why are you drinking and why did your wife bring it to your attention.
I drink between 0 and 6 drinks a wee btw. 2+ times that in college and medical school.
Probably average 2/wk.
What does the government say? 1-2 drinks a day are probably safe. The science isn’t cut and dry.

The doctor has spoken

[steeevvvooo]

Originally Posted by superdog

My pals all drink.

I drink too. A lot. But slowing down considerably.

I sleep better, I poop better, and I tend to feel better about myself.

Stopping is relatively easy. But I admit I like to drink. A few vodkas day. Weekends much more than that.

Started just not drinking Sunday’s. Then added Monday’s. I entertain a lot for work tho, so it’s not overly easy in that regard.

My wife would love to see me drink less. But I’m almost never drunk. Never have a problem doing what needs done. And have been relatively successful over the years.

Do I have a problem? Some people certainly say “yes”. Many others I know would say “no”.

But as I age, it’s not conducive to the person I want to be. I love early morning workouts. Drinking doesn’t help that. It doesn’t help with needless calories either. And I’m noticing most of my ailments are exacerbated with booze.

So it’s time to stop. Not completely. Again, I like drinking. But I’ve already slowed down quite a bit. Time to trim it even further.

My observation is that if you are asking the question, something is wrong. Does it mean there is a problem? Depends on each individual to determine that for themselves, imo.

Seth, this resonates a lot with me. As a brit, who has lived in the US, I get the nuance too. A pint in the UK might be 2.5-3, units of alcohol. A bottle of wine is around 9 units. If I told someone in the US I drank 4 "units" a day on average people will assume that is 4 large beers/glasses of wine.

Cutting down improved my sleep, health, wealth etc etc, but that's a different pstory.

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[seabreeze60]

Don’t drink and drive! My wife and I have enjoyed a cocktail hour for 45 years! No plans on changing at this point.

Cheers!!




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[Patton250]

Originally Posted by Dr.Brian

You drink a lot.
Is it dangerous? Probably to your health, assuming you aren’t buzzed driving, etc.
Is it a problem? Only you can answer that.
The real questions are why are you drinking and why did your wife bring it to your attention.
I drink between 0 and 6 drinks a week btw. 2+ times that in college and medical school.
Probably average 2/wk.
What does the government say? 1-2 drinks a day are probably safe. The science isn’t cut and dry.

Read post 79

Out of all these comments yours is the funniest. It’s like your entire post all by itself proved my point. You even brought Government into it. LOL. I’ve lost count over the last 50 years on the official word from government on both alcohol and coffee and whether they are good or bad for you. My favorite part of your post was that you said the OP drinks a lot.

[FTX I]

To cheer you up a little OP.

When you’re drinking
The show looks good to you
When you’re drinking, you get stinking
It helps your point of view
But when you’re sober the skies all seem gray
When you’re sober life’s a pain
So keep drinking
That’s what I’m thinking
Cause its what I love to do

Dean Martin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIGzbaQjMf0

[Brenngun]

I drink but have never followed a schedule. I'm a mood drinker. It's completely dependent on where I am, who I'm with and what we're doing. Can go months without a drop but then polish off a bottle or two on a weekend. In between I may have a beer or 2 after a round of golf or a few shots during a poker game but that's about it. Have never considered any of this a problem.

I think you have to ask your wife why she's concerned?

[Dr.Brian]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Read post 79

Out of all these comments yours is the funniest. It’s like your entire post all by itself proved my point. You even brought Government into it. LOL. I’ve lost count over the last 50 years on the official word from government on both alcohol and coffee and whether they are good or bad for you. My favorite part of your post was that you said the OP drinks a lot.

He asked for an opinion and I gave it.
I’m glad that you found it amusing.
20 drinks a week is a lot, in my opinion. More so because he is drinking 6+ drinks a night sometimes. Is it a problem? As I said, who knows? Why is he drinking? Does it ever lead to problem behaviors, affect his work? Is it an issue with his wife? Only he can answer these questions. One of my old friends had a rough tour in the sandbox. Worst place worst time. He drank to self medicate. He knew he had a problem. He got help, but it didn’t solve the problem. It didn’t end well for him. I knew him when he was on the slippery slope.
Medical people ask these screening questions to try to assess your risk or alcoholism, suicide, physical abuse, etc. and try to get those as risk or in trouble help if they want it. It’s not a gotcha for insurance companies. There are many many problem drinkers out there, some know it and some don’t. We tell people to quit smoking and lose weight too, but nobody does that either. Then it’s “surprise” you had a heart attack, diabetes, etc.

[morg.k24]

That's cool, but you have to shift ground because the person that should matter the most said that that is ain't cool.

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by Dr.Brian

He asked for an opinion and I gave it.
I’m glad that you found it amusing.
20 drinks a week is a lot, in my opinion. More so because he is drinking 6+ drinks a night sometimes. Is it a problem? As I said, who knows? Why is he drinking? Does it ever lead to problem behaviors, affect his work? Is it an issue with his wife? Only he can answer these questions. One of my old friends had a rough tour in the sandbox. Worst place worst time. He drank to self medicate. He knew he had a problem. He got help, but it didn’t solve the problem. It didn’t end well for him. I knew him when he was on the slippery slope.
Medical people ask these screening questions to try to assess your risk or alcoholism, suicide, physical abuse, etc. and try to get those as risk or in trouble help if they want it. It’s not a gotcha for insurance companies. There are many many problem drinkers out there, some know it and some don’t. We tell people to quit smoking and lose weight too, but nobody does that either. Then it’s “surprise” you had a heart attack, diabetes, etc.

I understand and I appreciate your comment. What I was saying is that your first post proved my point that the subject of whether someone has a problem with alcohol is remarkably subjective with literally tens of millions of opinions. Ask 10 people and you’ll get 10 completely different opinions as to what the definition of an alcoholic is and you can pretty much guarantee that person‘s opinion is based on their own usage. At the end of the day alcohol isn’t really good for anyone anyway. A heart doctor once told me one drop of alcohol literally burns the muscle of the heart. It takes someone that’s gotten into trouble to generally say they have a problem. At least that’s my experience. I don’t have a medical degree but I’ve literally hung around hundreds a drinkers the majority of my life and witnessed all levels of daily human consumption. As to your comments about medical screening questions by doctors and insurance it was my doctor that told me insurance companies scan through applicants medical records looking for these things like documented alcohol abuse, tobacco usage or even suspected suicidal thoughts. A person should be very careful what they let their doctor put in their medical records because that my friend is permanent. Anyway great conversation.

[fmc000]

I drink a glass of beer every other day. A 33cl bottle lasts about 5-6 days.