I chose a Tudor over Rolex

[eightball76]

I think its good to try different brands, I myself am a big fan of the Omega Speedmaster at the moment, but simply put, Rolex is Rolex, it'll serve you right and not lose money.
I have a Tudor BB ETA and like it, but its never going to replace my 16610.
During these difficult times I just find myself wearing the Speedy and getting away from all the BS ranging from waiting lists to muggings.

[Santiago32]

Originally Posted by eightball76

I think its good to try different brands, I myself am a big fan of the Omega Speedmaster at the moment, but simply put, Rolex is Rolex, it'll serve you right and not lose money.
I have a Tudor BB ETA and like it, but its never going to replace my 16610.
During these difficult times I just find myself wearing the Speedy and getting away from all the BS ranging from waiting lists to muggings.

Sweet! I’m seriously thinking of making this my next piece. I think it’s dressy enough for my style and also fits well in a casual setting.

Have you looked into deployant buckles for this model? I’m wondering how much would it cost to add one from Patek.

[Gary Busey]

Originally Posted by KonradvonMarburg

Why or how is it more masculine?

curved thin lines of the explorer, vs BB.
Unless we disagree on what "masculinity" is, which i would also not find surprising in this day and age.
Dont find the explorer extremely masculine. Certainly not compared to Black Bay or BB41.
my perception

[KonradvonMarburg]

Originally Posted by Gary Busey

curved thin lines of the explorer, vs BB.
Unless we disagree on what "masculinity" is, which i would also not find surprising in this day and age.
Dont find the explorer extremely masculine. Certainly not compared to Black Bay or BB41.
my perception

If you think a bigger watch is more masculine there are watches even bigger than the BB. A lot of really big masculine cars out there too.

[Gary Busey]

Originally Posted by KonradvonMarburg

If you think a bigger watch is more masculine there are watches even bigger than the BB. A lot of really big masculine cars out there too.

if you were on twitter id block you

i said Curved and thinner.
and you interpret that as me saying that a bigger watch is more masculine.

As for your straw man argument, it is not wholly without merit. Many will say that bigger is more masculine. But to be clear its never what i said

[Rebel]

I just like watches. OP, glad you are happy with your Tudor. I love my Tudor Submariner as well.

Oh, I can afford a heck of lot more watch than a Rolex. Just saying.

[KonradvonMarburg]

Originally Posted by Gary Busey

if you were on twitter id block you

i said Curved and thinner.
and you interpret that as me saying that a bigger watch is more masculine.

As for your straw man argument, it is not wholly without merit. Many will say that bigger is more masculine. But to be clear its never what i said

OP was clear. He went with Tudor cause he thought it was better value.

Case closed.

[Cambo]

Originally Posted by KonradvonMarburg

OP was clear. He went with Tudor cause he thought it was better value.

Case closed.

Time to close the thread IMHO...before people have start showing their bank statements

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[Max 66]

Originally Posted by Gary Busey

curved thin lines of the explorer, vs BB.
Unless we disagree on what "masculinity" is, which i would also not find surprising in this day and age.
Dont find the explorer extremely masculine. Certainly not compared to Black Bay or BB41.
my perception

Putting aside the individual preferences, I would say that the Exp I is undoubtedly a very masculine watch, although has less wrist presence than a Panerai Luminor

[Master_Grogu]

I really, truly don’t get Tudor watches. To me they are like omega. Too thick, and have weird designs forced everywhere. I much enjoy the purity of Rolex design languages with no gimmick.

[Cambo]

What if on a Lexus forum.....”I chose a Toyota over a Lexus”

I suspect we’d be seeing the same debates.

[KonradvonMarburg]

Originally Posted by Master_Grogu

I really, truly don’t get Tudor watches. To me they are like omega. Too thick, and have weird designs forced everywhere. I much enjoy the purity of Rolex design languages with no gimmick.

How dare you, Sir! I am aghast that you hold such an opinion and will hold it against you for time immemorial.

[KonradvonMarburg]

Originally Posted by Max 66

Putting aside the individual preferences, I would say that the Exp I is undoubtedly a very masculine watch, although has less wrist presence than a Panerai Luminor

LOL. Well to be fair, many watches have less of a wrist presence than a Panerai Luminor.

[KonradvonMarburg]

Originally Posted by Cambo

Time to close the thread IMHO...before people have start showing their bank statements

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I have already emailed my accountant!

[Reinhard in SA]

Originally Posted by Cambo

Time to close the thread IMHO...before people have start showing their bank statements

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I had a good laugh at this. I just see a future thread on the forum:

"Your watch and your bank statement"

[TimeAZ]

Originally Posted by Master_Grogu

I really, truly don’t get Tudor watches. To me they are like omega. Too thick, and have weird designs forced everywhere. I much enjoy the purity of Rolex design languages with no gimmick.

Sounds like you haven't ever seen or worn a BB58. It's under 12 mm thick and has similar proportions and aesthetic as a 5-digit sub, but with better bracelet, modern movement, and greater legibility.

For the OP: I own both the Exp 214270 and the BB58 Navy. Both are awesome daily wear and could easily make a case for a 1-watch collection. I like the BB58 more in many aspects, but the bracelet on the Exp 1 is far superior. I also think the Exp is more versatile. Despite this, my BB58 gets more wrist time, so I get where you're coming from, and you're not crazy!

Tudor NAILED it with the BB58. Especially the navy blue, it's a slam dunk.

[Lew Archer]

I find that Tudor Black Bay Blue very appealing...and I have an Explorer, along with a Submariner...and have toyed with the idea of buying one. Unfortunately (or, luckily, rather) I've owned an Omega Seamaster Professional, so I can't justify the Tudor by saying, "Well, I haven't got a diver with a blue dial". So, I'll have to come up with some other rationalization. I'm pretty good at that.

I've never owned a Tudor (and they have a following here for sure). This particular watch really tempts me.

Anyway, thanks for starting the thread and congratulations on finding the watch that called to you. The Explorer is a fantastic watch and you may one day acquire one. However, since you had to choose between the two now, it's best that you were true to your tastes and not distracted by other concerns, such as perceived brand prestige. You landed a handsome, high quality watch and, in the process, spent less money!

Most of all...

Enjoy!

[airchitect]

I’d pick the bb58 because I don’t love the exp1 at all. And fact is, Tudor is far better value for money than Rolex and more wearable for many on the daily. So enjoy the Tudor! And to the guy that went on a rant about Tudor quality, you’re generally way off, gmt movement not withstanding. What’s next, Rolex quality is better than GS? Give me a break!!


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[Aberdein]

Its your money so buy what you want and enjoy. If you prefer a certain Tudor over a Rolex so be it as long as you are happy with your decision that's all that matters.
Nothing wrong in having different preferences to others. If we all liked the same thing the world would be a boring place..

[AzHadEnuf]

Not crazy at all. I was ready to get an Explorer then put on a Ranger never looked back. I was ready to get a new Sub then put on a BB ETA never looked back. Two of my favorites.

[Geckobros]

Originally Posted by Mwilsey103

Am I crazy ? I turned down an Explorer for the Tudor BB58 blue. Was on a wait list for the Explorer, got the call but respectfully declined. Already have a DJ41 black dial with smooth bezel on an Oyster bracelet that I love and the Explorer just seemed to be too similar, almost redundant. Saw the BB58 blue in person and am now head over heels enamored with the watch. Best blue in a watch I’ve ever seen and I’m going to purchase one as soon as it arrives at my AD.
Been a lot of posts recently discussing Tudor as a “poor mans” Rolex but that can’t be further than the truth. I believe Tudor offers the best value/quality combination available. Rolex is great, don’t get me wrong, but it’s impossible for me to ignore what Tudor brings to the market and I’m all in.

You bought what you like more. You are definitely crazy.

[Tommyk]

After reading this thread and seeing the varied perspectives on TUDOR & Rolex, it showcases the obvious disconnect between the brand/corporate strategy and the consumers.

I have a feeling that much of this confusion is because of several factors which make up a very unconventional business alignment.

First: Rolex being a foundation and not a Corp/LLC means the operations and procedures it practices are unique to only them.
Second: This ties into #1. Because of the veil of secrecy Rolex implores because of its market dominance by being a foundation, the traditional playbook for watch companies and brands does not apply.
Third: I (and assuming we) do not know what the original insider goal of Tudor was over the years, why they went on hiatus and then relaunched they way they did.

Rolex/Tudor clearly dont have to do anything urgently because financially they don't have to. However, we can be assured, Rolex is not going to fumble Tudor and loose money on a "side project".
In many ways, I think the more I think about what is actually at play, the further away I get from the fundamental truth. That watches are artifacts which we use as a tool and a way of identifying what we want to represent as a person. I am almost certain Rolex, as good as they are, never planned for this. All those advertisements, product placements and endorsements would manifest one day to be so deeply ingrained in our society. In reality it was just a marketing attempt to drive sales and we have right? But humans, have attached so many memories, feelings, and messages behind the product that Rolex represents something unique to all of us.

Tudor on the other hand has not be given this same opportunity, but because of the handwork, dedication and patient persistence Rolex has engaged Tudor now has the opportunity of 'time' for that to happen.
Let time reveal its self, and let the people decide where Tudor fits in. Tudor/Rolex have done their part by making a great product, and beside them telling us where they fit into the market, its up to us to use our own judgment to determine what watch is best for us.

[Gary Busey]

Originally Posted by Mwilsey103

Am I crazy ? I turned down an Explorer for the Tudor BB58 blue. Was on a wait list for the Explorer, got the call but respectfully declined. Already have a DJ41 black dial with smooth bezel on an Oyster bracelet that I love and the Explorer just seemed to be too similar, almost redundant. Saw the BB58 blue in person and am now head over heels enamored with the watch. Best blue in a watch I’ve ever seen and I’m going to purchase one as soon as it arrives at my AD.
Been a lot of posts recently discussing Tudor as a “poor mans” Rolex but that can’t be further than the truth. I believe Tudor offers the best value/quality combination available. Rolex is great, don’t get me wrong, but it’s impossible for me to ignore what Tudor brings to the market and I’m all in.

ill say this 800 times more. Dont ask any of the Rolex fanboys here for an opinion. 90% of them will say stupid things like that (poor mans Rolex etc); they are married to the fanboi club, wear only Rolex, and are not true watch fans.
I have an Explorer and an also an original Black Bay ETA. The emotion i felt when i first saw the BB is 1000X more intense than the explorer. Don't get me wrong, love the Explorer, super elegant and classy. its a creeper, and grows on you.
do what your heart says. The value Tudor offers for the price point is MATERIALLY better than Rolex. From the finish (chamfers, polish etc), to the clasp (ceramic ball bearing, Pelagos), the in house movement (which they are admitedly fine tuning). Its not even a question of opinion.

[duncand111]

Great choice my friend, to each his own.

[Mwilsey103]

Originally Posted by Gary Busey

ill say this 800 times more. Dont ask any of the Rolex fanboys here for an opinion. 90% of them will say stupid things like that (poor mans Rolex etc); they are married to the fanboi club, wear only Rolex, and are not true watch fans.
I have an Explorer and an also an original Black Bay ETA. The emotion i felt when i first saw the BB is 1000X more intense than the explorer. Don't get me wrong, love the Explorer, super elegant and classy. its a creeper, and grows on you.
do what your heart says. The value Tudor offers for the price point is MATERIALLY better than Rolex. From the finish (chamfers, polish etc), to the clasp (ceramic ball bearing, Pelagos), the in house movement (which they are admitedly fine tuning). Its not even a question of opinion.

Thanks. Learned quite a bit with my first thread. All I can say is this is a tough crowd ...

[Gary Busey]

Originally Posted by Mwilsey103

Thanks. Learned quite a bit with my first thread. All I can say is this is a tough crowd ...

indeed it is.

[Etschell]

bb58 is the best tudor ever made. and i own a pelagos as well

[Chewbacca]

Every manufacturer has some winners and losers. But the BB line really punches above it’s weight. And let’s not forget, there’s a 5yr warranty for a reason.

That’s the manufacturers way of saying, ‘Ya, we have a feeling we might have effed up and if we do we’ll get it sorted for you’ , so no harm no foul.

The real matter is why many seem compelled to justify their choice.

If I showed a pic of my current collection you’d all think I ate Kellogg’s ADD’s for breakfast.

[Krash]

I’d rather have a blue BB58 over an Explorer too, but I most certainly prefer Rolex over Tudor in general. It’s not even close.

There are a lot of low cost models from other brands I’d prefer over some Rolex models.

I’m not going to mention the Rolex models I don’t like, but I think everyone can say the same thing.

However, at the end of the day, Rolex is still my favorite.


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