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Art 1 · 19 June 2013, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by kcmo

Hard to believe, isn't it!?

It really is. Lisa, you need to move to Florida. We have no basements here.

FeelingTheBlues · 19 June 2013, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Art 1

It really is. Lisa, you need to move to Florida. We have no basements here.

No basements!?

...Where's your man cave then?

Art 1 · 19 June 2013, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FeelingTheBlues

No basements!?

...Where's your man cave then?

I have 3 unused bedrooms. I claimed one for me.

And, I'm usually the only one home.

Lion · 19 June 2013, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kcmo

Hard to believe, isn't it!?

Yes, I believe the man has his priorities screwed up or he is self medicating at work.....as he has a home full of beautiful woman(which includes his daughters)and he is playing the basement with his toys. I'm surely stumped and confused!!!

Signed.....in disbelief!!!

Lion · 19 June 2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Art 1

Sand, along with 95F and 80%RH.

Hey...I'm right at home being in greenhouses.....just give me some water and plants. and I'm a Happy camper!!!

FeelingTheBlues · 19 June 2013, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Art 1

I have 3 unused bedrooms. I claimed one for me.

And, I'm usually the only one home.

Whew, thank goodness! You scared me for a moment...

Lion · 19 June 2013, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LockandKey

I've drawn a few landscapes in charcoal including flowers, buildings, etc. Capturing all of the details are key to a good drawing, especially in nature!

Em, since I am not using pencils for the same purpose you use them(such as 2B and 4B)for...in drafting and my kind of design work I prefer 3H and sometimes I use 2H. I use a very light touch(as to not indent the paper)to set my lines. As for finishing the design I will go back over my work using pigment markers to go over all my lines and will use from 0.1 thru 0.5 depending on the portion of the design I need to express. Hard surfaces such as concrete, fences and buildings I will use 0.3 and 0.5 but for plants I will use 0.1(for annuals and perennials) and 0.3(for trees, evergreens and ornamental flowering shrubs). Now as for my Plant and Material Lists this is really where your drafting skills come in and it will take me between 8-10 hours to do this depending on how detailed the lists are(I'm sure glad my father taught me Drafting). When I'm done I have had clients frame the designs and hang them on their walls.....

Take it easy and I would love to see your art.....Leo

kcmo · 19 June 2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Art 1

It really is. Lisa, you need to move to Florida. We have no basements here.

chicfarmer1 · 19 June 2013, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lion

As for Jeff Beck, he is considered the best Rock guitarist to ever pick up a guitar...

I just don't see how anyone can be better than Jimi Hendrix. Really truly. I've seen Jeff live, and yes he has a lot to say on the guitar, but he never, ever struck me as even close to Jimi's intuitive, bonded-to-the-instrument genius.

Rock PSA concluded.
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Hi all. Gardening, gardening. Cooking fresh spinach, tender early beet greens, garlic scapes, and edible pod peas almost daily.

Lisa, love your chickens pix. I am sorry I'm not listening to the music clips here...stupid internet.

Lisa · 19 June 2013, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LocksandKeys

That is very well done, Lisa. The contrasting values that you were able to achieve is outstanding.

I majored in Graphic Design so Drawing 1 and Drawing 2 were required in the curriculum. Drawing has become my true passion. I, like you, do not do well with paint! In one of my college art classes, I dropped the paint, it splashed in my eye, and I nearly blinded myself

I may be exaggerating a little there

Back on topic, the medium I enjoy most is graphite pencil. Specifically 2B and 4B graphite pencils. My specialty is Pencil Portraits, but I also draw the human body with charcoal. And yes, I had to draw countless nude models in my college art classes. Lets just say that was an experience I will never forget, no matter how much I may want to

Oh, I had Drawing I and II as well. I remember those days with the nude models. I was a nervous wreck. Talk about not knowing where to look - but you had to!

I like pencils, too. Charcoal is too messy. I've always admired the artists who could draw an image in pencil that looked as real as a black and white photograph. Just amazing stuff.

You've really piqued my interest - hope you can find some of your work to share with us! I'd love to see it. Your specialty - pencil portraits - does that mean you do portraits of people, or do you do other things as well. Tell us more about this.

East Bay Rider · 19 June 2013, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lion

Lisa, incredible work...you are definitely a woman with many talents. So let me get this straight...Dave spends his time in the basement

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Originally Posted by Lion

Yes, I believe the man has his priorities screwed up or he is self medicating at work.....as he has a home full of beautiful woman(which includes his daughters)and he is playing the basement with his toys. I'm surely stumped and confused!!!

Signed.....in disbelief!!!

Well I've heard enough. I find it in very poor taste that you continue to criticize another member's spouse. I'd noticed it before again and again. In a very quick search of this thread I've found all these criticisms of Lisa's husband, by you and now you even accuse him of unprofessional conduct that could harm his career. What's wrong with you? You attacked me by name last week and I didn't demand an apology as I should have and now you attack Lisa's husband without provocation. You've gone too far.

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Spoken like a long time married spouse.....paying more attention to a watch while in bed then their spouse. Then again it sounds like the watch works better than hubby!!! LOL!!!

Take it easy.....Leo

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I know...I just felt like teasing you cause you are a very special lady!!!

Personally I think he's nuts to spend his time in the basement with his toys when he has a beautiful lady and three growing children to spend his time with upstairs.....he definitely has his priorities screwed up!!!

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Originally Posted by Lion

Art, I agree with you and it's to bad because he doesn't know what he is missing and you can never get that time or missed experiences back. Believe me I know...as my Dad was to busy for us when we were growing up and later in his life(after he retired in his mid seventies) he realized his mistakes. That is why I made it a point to be involved with Ben and his activities as he was growing up and be there for him. I will say though that the last few years my Dad was alive we developed a friendship and a relationship where we became close...and when he died he was my Hero and my Dad!!!

I will call Ben or text him at least twice a week just to say Hello and tell him I love him.....it means a lot to me and I know he appreciates it as well...living so far away!!!

Take it easy.....Leo

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One with a club that comes out and clobbers your hubby in the head when he's in the basement snoozing away.....oblivious to you and the girls and life as a father and partner to you!!!
Take it easy.....Leo

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Lisa, that was one lucky duck that you and the girls found her and hatched her and gave her life for a week before turning him/she/it over to the authorities. you have a special kindness in your heart and your girls are learning to be special as well.....does Dave still escape to the basement or does he show some interest.....finally???

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Lisa, fantastic pictures of your yard...thank you for sharing. I love springtime in the Midwest but would love to visit all over the country to see what spring looks like elsewhere....the climbing roses looks great and I do love Irises. Now I do enjoy Dianthus and are those creeping phlox around the one climbing rose? What are your plans for that newly cleared fencerow? And Miss V wanted turnips??? LOL!!!

I know you said you have some building plans set for this year...so what's on the agenda? Give the girls a hug from me and say Hello to Dave if you can get a grunt out of him when he's in his basement nirvana!!!

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Lisa, actually...I've had some time to think things through.....and with all that you do for your family...it would take way more on hubby's part to ever come close to making up for his shortfalls!!!
Take it easy.....Leo

What is the purpose of the put downs? What do you hope to gain? Do you want to nurture unfavorable feelings between a husband and wife? Is she not safe to come here and express personal frustrations without you piling on unsolicited? To what end? By behaving this way I don't see how you can claim to be her friend. Again, just an evil little manipulator. I think you've gone too far.

Lisa · 19 June 2013, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FeelingTheBlues

Have I shown this to you guys before? I have a feeling Lisa would love to live such an experience...

A part of me thinks that this joke is way too hardcore to be tried on anybody (what if a person has a heart problem?) but at the same time I can't help but finding this very funny...

Haha! I was just telling Phoebe today I don't care much for humor at others' expense. But these were just too good! Those poor people! Hope they were well compensated for getting pranked like that.

That little girl did a great job! What a creepy kid.

Lisa · 19 June 2013, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lion

Yes, I believe the man has his priorities screwed up or he is self medicating at work.....as he has a home full of beautiful woman(which includes his daughters)and he is playing the basement with his toys. I'm surely stumped and confused!!!

Signed.....in disbelief!!!

Meh. We're both happier that way, I promise.

Lisa · 19 June 2013, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chicfarmer1

I just don't see how anyone can be better than Jimi Hendrix. Really truly. I've seen Jeff live, and yes he has a lot to say on the guitar, but he never, ever struck me as even close to Jimi's intuitive, bonded-to-the-instrument genius.

Rock PSA concluded.
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Hi all. Gardening, gardening. Cooking fresh spinach, tender early beet greens, garlic scapes, and edible pod peas almost daily.

Lisa, love your chickens pix. I am sorry I'm not listening to the music clips here...stupid internet.

Ah, tell me about garlic scapes! I have some onion ones and am not sure what to do with them. Should I just let them sink to the ground - will they sprout new onions? Or should I cut them off and use like green onions?

Your harvest sounds great. I've picked three banana peppers but the potatoes are looking promising. Patience shall prevail. Also have 4 baby tomatoes. Beet greens - yum. How do you season them?

Lisa · 19 June 2013, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by East Bay Rider

Well I've heard enough. I find it in very poor taste that you continue to criticize another member's spouse. I'd noticed it before again and again. In a very quick search of this thread I've found all these criticisms of Lisa's husband, by you and now you even accuse him of unprofessional conduct that could harm his career. What's wrong with you? You attacked me by name last week and I didn't demand an apology as I should have and now you attack Lisa's husband without provocation. You've gone too far.

What is the purpose of the put downs? What do you hope to gain? Do you want to nurture unfavorable feelings between a husband and wife? Is she not safe to come here and express personal frustrations without you piling on unsolicited? To what end? By behaving this way I don't see how you can claim to be her friend. Again, just an evil little manipulator. I think you've gone too far.

Whoa, Bill. Whoa just one minute there. I've been pretty open about the ups and downs of my married life. Most of it I joke about and I don't take myself very seriously. I don't believe Leo does, either, for pete's sake. I've never, not once, been bothered or offended by anyone's comments relating to my husband.

Please don't attack Leo. I hate to see this kind of thing. You both are a great asset to this place and nothing here is important enough to warrant getting upset over. We're here to have a good time. Please don't take things so seriously. We've all got our personal struggles, our ups and downs... I come here to be among friends and I think we make a pretty great group. Each and every one of us.

Lion · 19 June 2013, 02:11 PM

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Whoa, Bill. Whoa just one minute there. I've been pretty open about the ups and downs of my married life. Most of it I joke about and I don't take myself very seriously. I don't believe Leo does, either, for pete's sake. I've never, not once, been bothered or offended by anyone's comments relating to my husband.

Please don't attack Leo. I hate to see this kind of thing. You both are a great asset to this place and nothing here is important enough to warrant getting upset over. We're here to have a good time. Please don't take things so seriously. We've all got our personal struggles, our ups and downs... I come here to be among friends and I think we make a pretty great group. Each and every one of us.

Thank you Lisa, I did not think I had crossed a line or stepped over it by attacking you and your family. Thought we were here to talk, vent, maybe tease a little, and commiserate with each other. If I have offended you I am very sorry for my conduct and actions and would like to think you understand.....

Please take care...Leo

Lisa · 19 June 2013, 02:26 PM

Of course I understand, Leo. You've done nothing wrong.

Lion · 19 June 2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisa

Of course I understand, Leo. You've done nothing wrong.

Thank you again Lisa for your kind thoughts and words.....

Take care.....Leo

gmh1013 · 19 June 2013, 02:56 PM

Thanks to the DEA im going on 77 hours with no sleep. They have raised the price of Oxycontin to over 500 bucks for 60 pills......no way im going pay that.
Im going to try A week without dope but I feel like im dying....a women told me she rather give birth 3 times a day than withdraw from a high dose of Oxy (300mg).....the pain is horrible.....
Im going to give up and take 4 Norco's and clonidine to get some sleep.
Im sure Leo knows a little about RA pain....

Art 1 · 19 June 2013, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by chicfarmer1

I just don't see how anyone can be better than Jimi Hendrix. Really truly. I've seen Jeff live, and yes he has a lot to say on the guitar, but he never, ever struck me as even close to Jimi's intuitive, bonded-to-the-instrument genius.

Rock PSA concluded.
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Hi all. Gardening, gardening. Cooking fresh spinach, tender early beet greens, garlic scapes, and edible pod peas almost daily.

Lisa, love your chickens pix. I am sorry I'm not listening to the music clips here...stupid internet.

I agree with you about Jimi Hendrix.

Lisa · 19 June 2013, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gmh1013

Thanks to the DEA im going on 77 hours with no sleep. They have raised the price of Oxycontin to over 500 bucks for 60 pills......no way im going pay that.
Im going to try A week without dope but I feel like im dying....a women told me she rather give birth 3 times a day than withdraw from a high dose of Oxy (300mg).....the pain is horrible.....
Im going to give up and take 4 Norco's and clonidine to get some sleep.
Im sure Leo knows a little about RA pain....

Oh, no, Greg. That sounds like a nightmare. Please tell us you're not doing this without your doctor in on things. It doesn't sound safe at all.

Art 1 · 19 June 2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gmh1013

Thanks to the DEA im going on 77 hours with no sleep. They have raised the price of Oxycontin to over 500 bucks for 60 pills......no way im going pay that.
Im going to try A week without dope but I feel like im dying....a women told me she rather give birth 3 times a day than withdraw from a high dose of Oxy (300mg).....the pain is horrible.....
Im going to give up and take 4 Norco's and clonidine to get some sleep.
Im sure Leo knows a little about RA pain....

Over the weekend I threw most of a bottle of that stuff away. Whenever I took one it make be feel bad for a day or two.

Lisa · 19 June 2013, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Art 1

Over the weekend I threw most of a bottle of that stuff away. Whenever I took one it make be feel bad for a day or two.

I hate that stuff, too... but I've never had to live with chronic severe pain. It must be unimaginable.

Art 1 · 19 June 2013, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisa

I hate that stuff, too... but I've never had to live with chronic severe pain. It must be unimaginable.

Very true. It would be no fun living with chronic pain and I feel very sorry for those that have to live with it.

gmh1013 · 19 June 2013, 03:19 PM

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Oh, no, Greg. That sounds like a nightmare. Please tell us you're not doing this without your doctor in on things. It doesn't sound safe at all.

I have 140+ 10 mg Norco's but its like 3.2 beer compared to 80 proof Vodka....the Oxy's are 80mg
Dr. wants me to go to Methadone but Im scared to death of the stuff.
Keith Richards says Meth was 3X harder to get off than Heroin.
The DEA has pulled all Oxy I cant find it or Opana.
I wonder what Cancer Patients are doing?.....I have to suffer because some kid OD's on Oxy .....

Lisa · 19 June 2013, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Art 1

Very true. It would be no fun living with chronic pain and I feel very sorry for those that have to live with it.

Dave has to take some pretty heavy meds for his cluster headaches... he says he knows the meds are killing his liver and who knows what else but he can't function without them. Heck of a dilemma.

Lisa · 19 June 2013, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gmh1013

I have 140+ 10 mg Norco's but its like 3.2 beer compared to 80 proof Vodka....the Oxy's are 80mg
Dr. wants me to go to Methadone but Im scared to death of the stuff.
Keith Richards says Meth was 3X harder to get off than Heroin.
The DEA has pulled all Oxy I cant find it or Opana.
I wonder what Cancer Patients are doing?.....I have to suffer because some kid OD's on Oxy .....

What was it Dave suggested for you a while back? Wasn't it methadone? Maybe it can't be any worse for you than what you're going through now.

gmh1013 · 19 June 2013, 03:29 PM

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What was it Dave suggested for you a while back? Wasn't it methadone? Maybe it can't be any worse for you than what you're going through now.

I may give up and go to Meth.....next week......next doc apt. is Tues
She said its not much diff than Oxy 80's.....
Opana is king of of pain killers and Oxy is a close second.
Ive tried them all except Meth.
Ive took so much dope in 8 years I know which brands of pills work the best.
Im sure my liver is shot also

Art 1 · 19 June 2013, 03:42 PM

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Dave has to take some pretty heavy meds for his cluster headaches... he says he knows the meds are killing his liver and who knows what else but he can't function without them. Heck of a dilemma.

I've heard the cluster headaches are tough.

Art 1 · 19 June 2013, 03:44 PM

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I've heard the cluster headaches are tough.

His Dave tried Imitrex? I'm sure he must have tried everything.

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Lisa "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: oklahoma city Posts: 15,741	Of course I understand, Leo. You've done nothing wrong.

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gmh1013 Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: greg Location: Tempe AZ Watch: GMT Posts: 5,702	Thanks to the DEA im going on 77 hours with no sleep. They have raised the price of Oxycontin to over 500 bucks for 60 pills......no way im going pay that. Im going to try A week without dope but I feel like im dying....a women told me she rather give birth 3 times a day than withdraw from a high dose of Oxy (300mg).....the pain is horrible..... Im going to give up and take 4 Norco's and clonidine to get some sleep. Im sure Leo knows a little about RA pain....

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