ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX
15 May 2020, 10:16 PM | #1 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Real Name: Rob
Location: Boston, MA
Watch: 1530
Posts: 3,799
|
Rolex Zephyr models
As a fan of Rolex's "Zephyr" models, I wanted to put together a coherent timeline/list of variants. Two things define a Zephyr: a crosshair dial, and one of these two bezels types:
There are some Rolexes with only a Zephyr bezel, or only a crosshair dial, and I'll leave it to you to decide if those are true "Zephyrs," as that's a collector term and not an official Rolex term. I'll try to include them all in this list. Men's Oyster models 1956-1960: Ref. 6582 1960-1967: 1008/1009 1967-1987: 1038 (first "Guill. Ind" bezel rather than "Guill. Fant") 1969-1973: 1512 (only Zephyr with a date) Ladies' models 1971-1983: 6724 1983-1996: 67243 Non-Oyster models 1962-1966: 9919/9522 Mid-1960's: 3694 pendant watch Misc. crosshair dials 1950's: 656x models with crosshair dials 1950's: Tudor 79xx models with crosshair dials Some Tru-Beats have crosshair dials too: |
15 May 2020, 10:19 PM | #2 |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Real Name: D'OH!
Location: Kentucky
Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3
Posts: 36,152
|
Wow, that's a Zephyr Master Class right there, Rob! Always loved the minimalism of these dials. Thanks for sharing!
dP
__________________
TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club |
15 May 2020, 10:44 PM | #3 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Real Name: Rob
Location: Boston, MA
Watch: 1530
Posts: 3,799
|
|
15 May 2020, 11:27 PM | #4 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Real Name: Rob
Location: Boston, MA
Watch: 1530
Posts: 3,799
|
And these aren't really Zephyrs but deserve an honorable mention in the "miscellaneous crosshair dial" category. Dustproof references 6422 and 4499:
|
20 May 2020, 06:22 AM | #5 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Real Name: Rob
Location: Boston, MA
Watch: 1530
Posts: 3,799
|
Ref. 4081 has a "Guill Ind" bezel so I suppose it deserves a mention here too:
|
7 September 2020, 02:48 AM | #6 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Real Name: Rob
Location: Boston, MA
Watch: 1530
Posts: 3,799
|
Welp, my assertion that Zephyr was just a collector nickname was totally wrong. Rolex has used it in advertising:
|
4 October 2020, 10:33 PM | #7 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Real Name: Rob
Location: Boston, MA
Watch: 1530
Posts: 3,799
|
Forgot about the Cellini 4320:
|
24 December 2020, 02:38 PM | #8 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Real Name: Rob
Location: Boston, MA
Watch: 1530
Posts: 3,799
|
This Cellini with a Zephyr dial was listed as a "ref. J691":
|
22 May 2021, 11:05 PM | #9 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Real Name: Rob
Location: Boston, MA
Watch: 1530
Posts: 3,799
|
Here's another "Zephlini" ref. 3637:
|
24 May 2021, 03:47 PM | #10 |
TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron
Join Date: Jul 2013
Real Name: Adam
Location: Far East
Watch: Golden Tuna
Posts: 28,779
|
Awesome thread Rob. Thanks for putting it together and keeping it going!
__________________
_______________________ |
13 June 2021, 11:59 AM | #11 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Beverly Hills, CA
Watch: Yachtmaster
Posts: 3,934
|
Excellent!
So, the 1038 didn’t have alpha hands…is there a reason why some has the regular baton hands and others had the paddle hands? Was it based on the dial color? |
14 June 2021, 10:48 AM | #12 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: United States
Watch: me buy Watches
Posts: 3,955
|
Thanks for posting those items, which many of us have never seen.
__________________
“The display of actual intelligence terrifies much of mankind” Rolex "some" Tudor "some" Damasko "some" Misc Pieces "some" Marathon "some" GS Spring Drive "some" Hamilton "some" Findeisen "some" |
19 November 2022, 05:18 AM | #13 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Nov 2022
Location: Germany
Posts: 5
|
Hello Powerfunk,
i have a question. Where did you find the information that the 6582 was only available with white and gold dial? (stated in one of the pictures). I just bought a 6582 with black dial (i hope its real lol, bought with ebay authenticity guarentee).. And ive seen a few pictures online of 6582s with black dial. thank you! |
19 November 2022, 11:54 AM | #14 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Real Name: Rob
Location: Boston, MA
Watch: 1530
Posts: 3,799
|
Quote:
I'm sure it's fine! Got any pics? |
|
19 November 2022, 12:18 PM | #15 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Nov 2022
Location: Germany
Posts: 5
|
thanks for the quick response!
And i meant silver and gold in the previous post, not white and gold. I also found an article that said the 6582 came out in silver, gold and black (i cant post the link because i dont have 10 posts yet, i made the account just for this question. But the sites name is dellaroccagioielli ) So i hope mine is fine 😅 its on the way to me right now. Thats how it looks like: |
21 November 2022, 09:20 PM | #16 |
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: North Florida
Posts: 16,705
|
.
Look forward to seeing better pictures of the black dial. Writing looks sloppy. Ebay Authenticity would not know the difference in dials. |
21 November 2022, 10:35 PM | #17 |
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: North Florida
Posts: 16,705
|
.
Just found the listing on the bay, that dial does not look good at all. You may want to contact Ebay to see if they will comment on it to give you the quickest opportunity to initiate the return, unless you are ok with it. I even doubt that dial was black to begin with. . |
21 November 2022, 10:48 PM | #18 | |
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Real Name: PaulG
Location: Georgia
Posts: 41,882
|
Quote:
Key is how the crosshairs don’t intersect the coronet correctly - offset to the 1 o’clock side. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
__________________
Does anyone really know what time it is? |
|
22 November 2022, 07:07 AM | #19 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Nov 2022
Location: Germany
Posts: 5
|
Hey guys, thanks for your help! I can return the watch, i bought it from a commercial seller, not a privat person, so i can just return it. Do you think its not an real zephyr or just not an original black dial? I think tomorrow there will be the result of the ebay authentication, but as you said, i am also not really sure how good they check
|
22 November 2022, 07:49 PM | #20 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Nov 2022
Location: Germany
Posts: 5
|
The authentication service said original watch with refinished dial. The seller will make me a new offer. (it was sold for 4k). What would be a good price?
|
22 November 2022, 07:57 PM | #21 |
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: North Florida
Posts: 16,705
|
.
I would recommend to pass on the watch altogether. |
22 November 2022, 09:41 PM | #22 |
TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron
Join Date: Jul 2013
Real Name: Adam
Location: Far East
Watch: Golden Tuna
Posts: 28,779
|
Just send it back. That dial is horrible and kills the watch.
__________________
_______________________ |
23 November 2022, 04:49 AM | #23 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Nov 2022
Location: Germany
Posts: 5
|
Thanks! Do you just don‘t like it visually or also think its not worth anything anymore since its refinshed?
|
23 November 2022, 09:04 AM | #24 |
TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron
Join Date: Jul 2013
Real Name: Adam
Location: Far East
Watch: Golden Tuna
Posts: 28,779
|
It's worth a fraction of what it would be worth with an original dial, assuming you were ever able to resell it.
__________________
_______________________ |
10 April 2023, 08:59 PM | #25 |
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: North Florida
Posts: 16,705
|
.
Let's update the available Zephyr models to include the 1510. Maybe the OP can find more information. . 1510 discussed here: . https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...0#post12715320 . |
11 April 2023, 09:04 PM | #26 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Real Name: Rob
Location: Boston, MA
Watch: 1530
Posts: 3,799
|
Quote:
|
|
4 August 2023, 01:50 AM | #27 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Nov 2022
Real Name: David
Location: Stroudsburg, PA
Watch: AP RO 14790.SA
Posts: 15
|
I rotate my daily wear, and right now it's a Zepher in mint shape I picked up a while back
|
10 December 2023, 01:15 AM | #28 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: UK
Posts: 5
|
Replacement Dial?
Hello,
I have what I believed to be a 1008 Zephyr. From the little research I have done and from the examples I have seen on this thread it looks most likely that the dial has been replaced. Regards, Oli |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 3 (0 members and 3 guests) | |
|
|
*Banners
Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.