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Old 23 January 2010, 08:17 AM   #1
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How waterproof/durable is the GMTIIc?

I know the dial says 100m, but I read this in an old Nick Hacko blog post:

"Most TAG watches are fine for swimming if rated "200m" as long as they have screw lock crown and case back. New Rolex Datejust and GMT Master are fine for accidental submerging, but I would not swim with one unless I'm running for my life. Rolex Submariner is the way to go - robust and truly waterproof watch. Or better still if you need a tool watch go for a Rolex Seadweller. Panerai, Jaeger Le-Coultre, IWC and other high grade watches are too precious to be worn under water under any circumstances. Most Omegas, Longines and Breitlings are too fragile even for normal, every-day use."

Granted, this is one man's opinion, but he knows his watches and sees the damage first hand! The ceramic has a triplock crown, surely that is worth something?

What do you think, is the GMT not a swimmer's watch (broken/old/worn gaskets not withstanding). Thanks for your opinions?
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Old 23 January 2010, 08:21 AM   #2
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That guy is an idiot!! All Rolex Oyster watches are very water resistant watches! Swimpruf like the tag on them says. All of them are actually tested way higher than their rating. People go scuba diving with even the 100m rated ones with no problem! They all have screw down backs and crowns which is great for water resistance.

My Omegas and Panerai are not whimp watches either! LOL! Panerai, Longines, and Breitlings fragile?? LOL!
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Old 23 January 2010, 08:26 AM   #3
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That guy is an idiot!!
LOL!! The whole point of a Rolex Oyster is that it was the first properly waterproof watch..
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Old 23 January 2010, 08:31 AM   #4
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Swim away with the GMT. I have and loved it. It's as durable and water resistant as you'll need a mechanical watch to be.
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Old 23 January 2010, 08:32 AM   #5
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I know the dial says 100m, but I read this in an old Nick Hacko blog post:

"Most TAG watches are fine for swimming if rated "200m" as long as they have screw lock crown and case back. New Rolex Datejust and GMT Master are fine for accidental submerging, but I would not swim with one unless I'm running for my life. Rolex Submariner is the way to go - robust and truly waterproof watch. Or better still if you need a tool watch go for a Rolex Seadweller. Panerai, Jaeger Le-Coultre, IWC and other high grade watches are too precious to be worn under water under any circumstances. Most Omegas, Longines and Breitlings are too fragile even for normal, every-day use."

Granted, this is one man's opinion, but he knows his watches and sees the damage first hand! The ceramic has a triplock crown, surely that is worth something?

What do you think, is the GMT not a swimmer's watch (broken/old/worn gaskets not withstanding). Thanks for your opinions?
Those are interesting comments. I do not share his opinion.

The only real difference, when it comes to waterproofness, comparing the 116710 and the comparable 116613 is the thickness of the caseback.

Read more here: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=87780

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Old 23 January 2010, 08:33 AM   #6
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Wouldn't pay much attention to Nick Hacko.
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Old 23 January 2010, 08:39 AM   #7
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Clearly the guy you are talking about is not reading much about Rolex history.

Google Rolex oyster. The whole point is that the watch is sealed tight. All Rolex oysters have this feature
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Old 23 January 2010, 08:43 AM   #8
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I would hazard to guess there are no truly waterproof watches out there. I think that's why watch companies use the term water resistant.
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Old 23 January 2010, 08:50 AM   #9
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Thanks all, I am sure that the watch by design and heritage is perfectly waterproof - I think the burden is on me to make sure it is pressure tested and has the gaskets checked/replaced regularly. I think I'll be ok, considering I don't even have the watch yet! The most water it will ever see is washing vegitables or getting dishes out of the sink - don't quite need the DSSD for that!
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Old 23 January 2010, 09:10 AM   #10
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I know the dial says 100m, but I read this in an old Nick Hacko blog post:

"Most TAG watches are fine for swimming if rated "200m" as long as they have screw lock crown and case back. New Rolex Datejust and GMT Master are fine for accidental submerging, but I would not swim with one unless I'm running for my life. Rolex Submariner is the way to go - robust and truly waterproof watch. Or better still if you need a tool watch go for a Rolex Seadweller. Panerai, Jaeger Le-Coultre, IWC and other high grade watches are too precious to be worn under water under any circumstances. Most Omegas, Longines and Breitlings are too fragile even for normal, every-day use."

Granted, this is one man's opinion, but he knows his watches and sees the damage first hand! The ceramic has a triplock crown, surely that is worth something?

What do you think, is the GMT not a swimmer's watch (broken/old/worn gaskets not withstanding). Thanks for your opinions?
A colleague of mine often wears his GMT IIc at work. At 145 metres below the sealevel. I have have done so once, but prefer one of my Subs...

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Old 23 January 2010, 09:57 AM   #11
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I know the dial says 100m, but I read this in an old Nick Hacko blog post:

"Most TAG watches are fine for swimming if rated "200m" as long as they have screw lock crown and case back. New Rolex Datejust and GMT Master are fine for accidental submerging, but I would not swim with one unless I'm running for my life. Rolex Submariner is the way to go - robust and truly waterproof watch. Or better still if you need a tool watch go for a Rolex Seadweller. Panerai, Jaeger Le-Coultre, IWC and other high grade watches are too precious to be worn under water under any circumstances. Most Omegas, Longines and Breitlings are too fragile even for normal, every-day use."

Granted, this is one man's opinion, but he knows his watches and sees the damage first hand! The ceramic has a triplock crown, surely that is worth something?

What do you think, is the GMT not a swimmer's watch (broken/old/worn gaskets not withstanding). Thanks for your opinions?
Ha! Now you tell me after 40 years of swimming with GMTs.

Guess I'll be more carefull in the future-----NOT!!
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Old 23 January 2010, 10:28 AM   #12
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Old 23 January 2010, 12:06 PM   #13
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The GMT and the Exp II use the exact same caseback gasket as the Sub.... They also use the same o-rings at the stem too...........The GMT IIc uses all the same gaskets and Triplock crown as the Sub..

They are waterproof...just not as robust to take the extra pressures encountered at diver depths......... Most of mine have logged lot's of ocean time...

I would advise anybody, though, to be comfortable............. taking your watch into the surf just isn't for everybody........
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Old 23 January 2010, 12:18 PM   #14
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Ignore the bloggist and listen to the guys here at TRF!!

I have a GMT IIc and although I would not even take a shower with it on, that is just my preference and nothing to do with it not being waterproof. If I had to, I would quite happily jump into water with it on.

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Old 23 January 2010, 12:35 PM   #15
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Old 23 January 2010, 12:52 PM   #16
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Old 23 January 2010, 01:05 PM   #17
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I've gone scuba diving (only 80 ft) with my early 70's GMT 1675. No problem.

The sapphire crystal and more modern case on the IIC increase water tightness and these features plus the ceramic bezel make it much more rugged - able to take abuse and still look stunning!

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Old 23 January 2010, 01:37 PM   #18
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Wouldn't pay much attention to Nick Hacko.
More like Nick "Wacko"!
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Old 23 January 2010, 02:37 PM   #19
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In a nutshell........no matter how deep you go, rest assured you'll let in water way before you Rolex does - end of story!!

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In a nutshell........no matter how deep you go, rest assured you'll let in water way before you Rolex does - end of story!!

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Old 23 January 2010, 08:40 PM   #21
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In a nutshell........no matter how deep you go, rest assured you'll let in water way before you Rolex does - end of story!!

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Yeah! What JJ said! LOL!
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