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RolexPete · 28 February 2010, 11:00 PM

Picked up a 1988 16200 Datejust yesterday in near mint condition from an older gentleman that looks like was rarely worn (and it wasn't according to he and his wife). The boxes look brand new, includes all hang tags, booklets, warranty holder, and the photocopy of the warranty (Apparently Bailey Banks and Biddle in Burlington MA kept the originals - they are now out of business). Extra links, green sponge protector and receipt from a cleaning done by Bailey Banks and Biddle also included.

Running +1 sec a day, needs nothing to be done to it, bracelet has zero stretch...zero. Paid $1800. Thoughts?

gettocard · 28 February 2010, 11:05 PM

1600$ would have been a more appropriate price I guess,but given the watch conditions I would say not bad. Congratulations .

Gaijin · 28 February 2010, 11:09 PM

Good deal.... looks great!

RolexPete · 28 February 2010, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gettocard

1600$ would have been a more appropriate price I guess,but given the watch conditions I would say not bad. Congratulations .

I offered $1600 on the phone, he balked, so we tentatively agreed to $1800 over the phone. Once we met and I saw the condition of the box, papers and watch, I knew $1800 was fair, since the watch does not need service and looks almost new. I would say $1600 would be a good price if it needed a service and if it did need service, I would have insisted on $1600.

nyyankees · 28 February 2010, 11:23 PM

Hey Pete,

I think the price is O.K. you could have done a bit better but what's more important is that you like the watch. Enjoy!

RolexPete · 28 February 2010, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyyankees

Hey Pete,

I think the price is O.K. you could have done a bit better but what's more important is that you like the watch. Enjoy!

Is this a Yankees/Red Sox thing?

In the condition its in, with everything included, I did ok.

Rscmaine · 28 February 2010, 11:36 PM

$200 is not much to pay for the secure knowledge that the watch was exquisitely well taken care of for its entire life.

You have a time capsule there -

As my old mechanic once said to me "The worst thing that ever happened to that car was you bought it..."

Nice watch.

Will it still look that good in 2038?

nyyankees · 28 February 2010, 11:39 PM

I think you did well Peter! No sense second guessing yourself now!

RolexPete · 28 February 2010, 11:45 PM

Not second guessing, just seeing what ya'll think. I am happy with the purchase, and will be putting the dial and hands from my 16030 onto this watch, and putting this dial on my 16030. That way it will have superluminova dial and hands on the "newer" watch, making it more appropriate.

This is the dial that will be switched into the "new" 16220:

spuds · 28 February 2010, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rscmaine

....As my old mechanic once said to me "The worst thing that ever happened to that car was you bought it..."

I think you got a good deal & please excuse my ignorance if I'm missing something....
but why are you swopping the dial?

I mean.... I agree the other face is more modern but what will you put in the 'donor' watch?

valentine · 28 February 2010, 11:56 PM

NICE FIND PETER! i am IN LOVE with that concentric dial...please let me know where I can find one! I am working on a stainless datejust JUST SO I CAN HAVE THAT DIAL!

goduke1 · 1 March 2010, 12:01 AM

I think it was a good price.

RolexPete · 1 March 2010, 12:02 AM

The silver dial from the 16220 will go in the 16030 donor watch. The black arabic concentric dial was recently put in the 16030 after I purchased it on Ebay. It was from a 116200 DJ of recent date. The 16030 is acrylic crystal, and the 16220 sapphire, so it would be a better more modern look to put the black concentric arabic in the 16220.

RolexPete · 1 March 2010, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by valentine

NICE FIND PETER! i am IN LOVE with that concentric dial...please let me know where I can find one! I am working on a stainless datejust JUST SO I CAN HAVE THAT DIAL!

Ebay is where I got mine, and this is the dial I have wanted since I have been into Rolex watches. In my opinion, it is the most legible Datejust dial available, and also my favorite dial of any DJ dial I have ever seen. I paid $400 for the dial alone and it was worth every penny! It is the only DJ dial I have ever found myself staring at many times throughout the day.

My favorite part is that the arabic numerals are luminescent, and they really light up a room at night!

spuds · 1 March 2010, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolexPete

The silver dial from the 16220 will go in the 16030 donor watch. The black arabic concentric dial was recently put in the 16030 after I purchased it on Ebay. It was from a 116200 DJ of recent date. The 16030 is acrylic crystal, and the 16220 sapphire, so it would be a better more modern look to put the black concentric arabic in the 16220.

D'OH! I get it now.....

Rikki · 1 March 2010, 12:11 AM

Looks great maybe a good detailing gaskets and watertesting in the future Rikki

RolexPete · 1 March 2010, 12:30 AM

When my local watchmaker swaps the dials he always changes the caseback gasket and pressure tests. I may also have him put it on the Vibrograf and give me a printout. But I know they are both running +1 sec a day.

jameshe · 1 March 2010, 12:38 AM

1800 US (just over 1k GBP) is a bloody good deal isnt it!?

If i thought I could pick up a datejust like this for a grand in england I would have them up each arm!

bluemartinifan · 1 March 2010, 12:47 AM

I think $1800 is good for both seller and buyer - I have a 16234 2000 model DJ for sale now for approx $400-500 more.

Dan Pierce · 1 March 2010, 12:54 AM

Seems like a fair deal to me.

dP

PeteNYC13 · 1 March 2010, 01:40 AM

If you are looking to "flip" it, then $200 makes a difference in your profit margin, if you are looking to enjoy it, it's only $200. I am with you, worth the extra money to see the condition and care given to the watch.

Enjoy it! And I still hate agreeing with you and that GIANT Red Sox avatar of yours!
But, you do have great taste in Rolexes so you can't be a bad guy!

Be good,
-Pete

RolexPete · 1 March 2010, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

Seems like a fair deal to me.

dP

Hey Dan, you miss Aruba as much as I do? Great place!!

RolexPete · 1 March 2010, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteNYC13

If you are looking to "flip" it, then $200 makes a difference in your profit margin, if you are looking to enjoy it, it's only $200. I am with you, worth the extra money to see the condition and care given to the watch.

Enjoy it! And I still hate agreeing with you and that GIANT Red Sox avatar of yours!
But, you do have great taste in Rolexes so you can't be a bad guy!

Be good,
-Pete

Keeping this one, probably flip the 16030. Go SOX!!

Speed · 1 March 2010, 02:29 AM

Fair indeed...but IMHO, "Don't touch that Dial"

SDDS · 1 March 2010, 02:31 AM

sounds like a good deal

TempoKing · 1 March 2010, 02:31 AM

You got a Good deal and even a greater dial..

RolexPete · 1 March 2010, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed

Fair indeed...but IMHO, "Don't touch that Dial"

I am only moving it, not really touching it. The 16030 will be 100% authentic (because that is the same silver dial available on it originally), and the concentric arabic will be closer to authentic.

RolexPete · 12 March 2010, 10:58 AM

Well, here it is after the swap. So now that beautiful Black Arabic Concentric dial is on the more age appropriate sapphire crystal 3135 movement of the 16220.

Prince Tudor · 12 March 2010, 12:34 PM

That looks great.
excellent purchase, btw.

DLagent · 12 March 2010, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolexPete

Well, here it is after the swap. So now that beautiful Black Arabic Concentric dial is on the more age appropriate sapphire crystal 3135 movement of the 16220.

Gotta say, that looks pretty durn sweet.

28 February 2010, 11:00 PM	#1
RolexPete "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Peter Location: Massachusetts Watch: 214270 Mk2 Posts: 1,963	"Price check, aisle 3" Picked up a 1988 16200 Datejust yesterday in near mint condition from an older gentleman that looks like was rarely worn (and it wasn't according to he and his wife). The boxes look brand new, includes all hang tags, booklets, warranty holder, and the photocopy of the warranty (Apparently Bailey Banks and Biddle in Burlington MA kept the originals - they are now out of business). Extra links, green sponge protector and receipt from a cleaning done by Bailey Banks and Biddle also included. Running +1 sec a day, needs nothing to be done to it, bracelet has zero stretch...zero. Paid $1800. Thoughts? __________________ 2016 Explorer 214270 Mk2 - 1996 Submariner 14060* - 1972 Datejust 1601 1972 Oyster Perpetual 1002 - 1978 Oysterquartz 17000 Omega Seamaster 2265.80 - Omega Seamaster 300 166.0324 *RIP PAL 1942-2015

28 February 2010, 11:36 PM	#7
Rscmaine "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Nat Parkinson Location: Maine, USA Watch: me pull a rabbit.. Posts: 1,196	$200 is not much to pay for the secure knowledge that the watch was exquisitely well taken care of for its entire life. You have a time capsule there - As my old mechanic once said to me "The worst thing that ever happened to that car was you bought it..." Nice watch. Will it still look that good in 2038? __________________ When the alien spaceships actually landed, to everyone's surprise, it turned out that the world's governments had not been hiding anything. They were just as clueless as the rest of us!

28 February 2010, 11:39 PM	#8
nyyankees "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southeastern PA Watch: 1216610 Posts: 2,131	No baseball controversies! I think you did well Peter! No sense second guessing yourself now!

28 February 2010, 11:45 PM	#9
RolexPete "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Peter Location: Massachusetts Watch: 214270 Mk2 Posts: 1,963	Not second guessing, just seeing what ya'll think. I am happy with the purchase, and will be putting the dial and hands from my 16030 onto this watch, and putting this dial on my 16030. That way it will have superluminova dial and hands on the "newer" watch, making it more appropriate. This is the dial that will be switched into the "new" 16220: __________________ 2016 Explorer 214270 Mk2 - 1996 Submariner 14060* - 1972 Datejust 1601 1972 Oyster Perpetual 1002 - 1978 Oysterquartz 17000 Omega Seamaster 2265.80 - Omega Seamaster 300 166.0324 *RIP PAL 1942-2015

1 March 2010, 12:01 AM	#12
goduke1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: North Carolina Watch: 72' Rolex Air King Posts: 421	I think it was a good price. __________________ Rolex Air-King 5500 Omega Seamaster Pro 300

28 February 2010, 11:05 PM	#2
gettocard Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Andy Location: EU Watch: them come and go.. Posts: 2,052	1600$ would have been a more appropriate price I guess,but given the watch conditions I would say not bad. Congratulations .

28 February 2010, 11:09 PM	#3
Gaijin 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Japan Watch: ing your back. Posts: 16,179	Good deal.... looks great!

28 February 2010, 11:23 PM	#5
nyyankees "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southeastern PA Watch: 1216610 Posts: 2,131	Hey Pete, I think the price is O.K. you could have done a bit better but what's more important is that you like the watch. Enjoy!

28 February 2010, 11:56 PM	#11
valentine Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Justin Location: Baltimore, MD Watch: TT Diamond DJ Posts: 2,809	NICE FIND PETER! i am IN LOVE with that concentric dial...please let me know where I can find one! I am working on a stainless datejust JUST SO I CAN HAVE THAT DIAL!

1 March 2010, 12:02 AM	#13
RolexPete "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Peter Location: Massachusetts Watch: 214270 Mk2 Posts: 1,963	The silver dial from the 16220 will go in the 16030 donor watch. The black arabic concentric dial was recently put in the 16030 after I purchased it on Ebay. It was from a 116200 DJ of recent date. The 16030 is acrylic crystal, and the 16220 sapphire, so it would be a better more modern look to put the black concentric arabic in the 16220. __________________ 2016 Explorer 214270 Mk2 - 1996 Submariner 14060* - 1972 Datejust 1601 1972 Oyster Perpetual 1002 - 1978 Oysterquartz 17000 Omega Seamaster 2265.80 - Omega Seamaster 300 166.0324 *RIP PAL 1942-2015

1 March 2010, 12:11 AM	#16
Rikki TechXpert Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Rik Dietel Location: Seminole Fla Watch: 5512 s/s Sub Posts: 1,818	Looks great maybe a good detailing gaskets and watertesting in the future Rikki

1 March 2010, 12:30 AM	#17
RolexPete "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Peter Location: Massachusetts Watch: 214270 Mk2 Posts: 1,963	When my local watchmaker swaps the dials he always changes the caseback gasket and pressure tests. I may also have him put it on the Vibrograf and give me a printout. But I know they are both running +1 sec a day. __________________ 2016 Explorer 214270 Mk2 - 1996 Submariner 14060* - 1972 Datejust 1601 1972 Oyster Perpetual 1002 - 1978 Oysterquartz 17000 Omega Seamaster 2265.80 - Omega Seamaster 300 166.0324 *RIP PAL 1942-2015

1 March 2010, 12:38 AM	#18
jameshe "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: James Location: UK Watch: AP ROC, SkyDweller Posts: 812	1800 US (just over 1k GBP) is a bloody good deal isnt it!? If i thought I could pick up a datejust like this for a grand in england I would have them up each arm!

1 March 2010, 12:47 AM	#19
bluemartinifan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Russ Location: Dallas Texas Watch: 5513 Posts: 2,124	I think $1800 is good for both seller and buyer - I have a 16234 2000 model DJ for sale now for approx $400-500 more.

1 March 2010, 12:54 AM	#20
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,171	Seems like a fair deal to me. dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

1 March 2010, 01:40 AM	#21
PeteNYC13 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Pete Location: USA Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,607	If you are looking to "flip" it, then $200 makes a difference in your profit margin, if you are looking to enjoy it, it's only $200. I am with you, worth the extra money to see the condition and care given to the watch. Enjoy it! And I still hate agreeing with you and that GIANT Red Sox avatar of yours! But, you do have great taste in Rolexes so you can't be a bad guy! Be good, -Pete __________________ SS Submariner K16610 SS Submariner F16610LV SS/P Yachtmaster M16622 SS Black Dial Daytona M116520 SS Explorer II D16570

1 March 2010, 02:29 AM	#24
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Fair indeed...but IMHO, "Don't touch that Dial"

1 March 2010, 02:31 AM	#25
SDDS "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Yazan Location: Canada Posts: 4,782	sounds like a good deal __________________ Patek Philippe 5167 Patek Philippe 5905P black dial Rolex Deepsea 116660 M series Rolex Oysterquartz 17000 N series Rolex OP 41MM 124300 Green Dial

1 March 2010, 02:31 AM	#26
TempoKing Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Anastasios Location: Athens Greece Watch: Rolex GMT 1675 Posts: 8,497	You got a Good deal and even a greater dial..

12 March 2010, 10:58 AM	#28
RolexPete "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Peter Location: Massachusetts Watch: 214270 Mk2 Posts: 1,963	Well, here it is after the swap. So now that beautiful Black Arabic Concentric dial is on the more age appropriate sapphire crystal 3135 movement of the 16220. __________________ 2016 Explorer 214270 Mk2 - 1996 Submariner 14060* - 1972 Datejust 1601 1972 Oyster Perpetual 1002 - 1978 Oysterquartz 17000 Omega Seamaster 2265.80 - Omega Seamaster 300 166.0324 *RIP PAL 1942-2015

12 March 2010, 12:34 PM	#29
Prince Tudor "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Lucas Location: Canada Watch: Rolex and Tudor Posts: 726	That looks great. excellent purchase, btw. __________________

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