GMTII vs. Sub the real difference!!

[Brenngun]

O.K. still learning and getting close to first purchase. Brain is a little dull today. Could be the a lack of pork. Either way I've been trying to understand what if any are the real big differences between these 2 watches. I know the GMT has the green 24hr hand and a different numbering system on the bezel. I know the GMT was designed for flying and the Sub for diving but is that all the difference. Is there anything else I'm missing or is it just a cosmetic choice??

[Zirotti]

It's really two different watches for two different purposes.

They will wear about the same on the wrist, but in reality, I just found the ability to jump forward and back timezones to me much more useful than being able dive to 1000 feet. The 100M water-resistance of the GMT IIc was more than enough for my practical use.

[sakuraba]

Sub - triplock crown, thicker case, unidirectional bezel, ability to go down to 1000ft
GMT - fourth hand for tracking up to 3 time zones (GMT II), bezel can turn either way, twinlock crown.

IMO very different looks for both watches. The only person I know who keeps asking me why my watches all look the same is my mom.

Hope this helps.

[cornerstore]

Originally Posted by Brenngun

O.K. still learning and getting close to first purchase. Brain is a little dull today. Could be the a lack of pork. Either way I've been trying to understand what if any are the real big differences between these 2 watches. I know the GMT has the green 24hr hand and a different numbering system on the bezel. I know the GMT was designed for flying and the Sub for diving but is that all the difference. Is there anything else I'm missing or is it just a cosmetic choice??

I've been wondering the same thing trying to find size and weight differances so far no luck .I tried old threads couldn't find info.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by Zirotti

It's really two different watches for two different purposes..

Exactly... Just because they look alike, doesn't mean that they are alike..

So....If all you care about is the look, then it doesn't really matter...

The Sub has a thicker caseback (for deeper water resistance) and the bezel is a timer for the minute hand.... It also has a specialized bracelet and clasp to expand and fit over a wet-suit.

The GMT has an extra hand (completely different movement) that turns at exactly half the speed of the main hour hand and the bezel is graduated in 24 hr segments specifically to be used by that hand. The hands can be set to visibly show any timezone in the world without ever stopping the watch..

[Brenngun]

Exactly Patrick09 I'm looking for the same info. Sakuraba is the physical thickness of these watches different. I'm not talking about the deep sea just the standard Sub.

[Brenngun]

Thanks Tools. So the extra thick case back would make it stand taller on my wrist?

[sakuraba]

The extra thickness is hardly perceptible IMO, but it does wear differently.

[Brenngun]

In what way? Also does the Sub bracelet expand out further than the GMT?

[robertneville]

[QUOTE=sakuraba;1733729]Sub - triplock crown, thicker case, unidirectional bezel, ability to go down to 1000ft
GMT - fourth hand for tracking up to 3 time zones (GMT II), bezel can turn either way, twinlock crown.

IMO very different looks for both watches. The only person I know who keeps asking me why my watches all look the same is my mom.

Now that is funny. My wife says the same thing!

[CKLinLA]

[QUOTE=robertneville;1733805]

Originally Posted by sakuraba

Sub - triplock crown, thicker case, unidirectional bezel, ability to go down to 1000ft
GMT - fourth hand for tracking up to 3 time zones (GMT II), bezel can turn either way, twinlock crown.

IMO very different looks for both watches. The only person I know who keeps asking me why my watches all look the same is my mom.

Now that is funny. My wife says the same thing!

There is only ONE solution to the "they all look the same" problem ... ... and its a simple/easy one. Just make sure your different Rolex have different color dials.

[HL65]

Originally Posted by sakuraba

Sub - triplock crown, thicker case, unidirectional bezel, ability to go down to 1000ft
GMT - fourth hand for tracking up to 3 time zones (GMT II), bezel can turn either way, twinlock crown.

IMO very different looks for both watches. The only person I know who keeps asking me why my watches all look the same is my mom.

Hope this helps.

Mom and wife!

[Poom]

For those who are not sport watch lover, they look at all black dial and see no differnece.

[dc_in_sf]

You can use the Bezel on a Sub to time things (Dives, parking meters, runs, Laundry). You can use the Bezel on the GMTIIc to indicate different timezones.

The Sub's water resistance is far superior to that of the GMT IIc, so if you actually planned to go diving the Sub would be the natural choice, but the GMT IIc should be able to handle swimming.

The GMT IIc has polished centre links on the bracelet (PCLs) the Sub doesn't. Polished links are more susceptible to showing scratches, so the GMT IIc may not be as appropriate for wearing while performing manual labour or other activities where your watch might hit something harder than your shirt cuff. PCLs do look fancier which may or may not be a good thing according to your taste and intended purpose.

[Brenngun]

dc in sf - good points thanks. Also love the practicle applications you suggested for the Sub bezel. No more parking tickets......

[nauticajoe]

Different movements due to the 24hr hand.

If you travel or require different time zones - the GMT. If not, the Sub SS has always been an icon for Rolex.

Happy hunting!

[ddnyc77]

Originally Posted by sakuraba

Sub - triplock crown, thicker case, unidirectional bezel, ability to go down to 1000ft
GMT - fourth hand for tracking up to 3 time zones (GMT II), bezel can turn either way, twinlock crown.

IMO very different looks for both watches. The only person I know who keeps asking me why my watches all look the same is my mom.

Hope this helps.

"The only person I know who keeps asking me why my watches all look the same is my mom."

that is funny, my girlfriend says all my watches look the same and are ugly. hahha

[robbonds]

does the sub bezel actually move on its own to time things? if not - how do you use it to time things? just keep checking the minute hand until it gets to wherever you set the bezel?

[FlyingMoose]

Originally Posted by robbonds

does the sub bezel actually move on its own to time things? if not - how do you use it to time things? just keep checking the minute hand until it gets to wherever you set the bezel?

Right, you set the arrow to point to the minute hand, and then read off the scale on the bezel. The bezel is just attached to the outside of the case and doesn't interact with anything on the inside (this is true of the GMT also). It's basically a way to mark where the minute hand is.

I find it extremely useful for timing things, and use it almost every day (mostly for cooking), so I'd want a Sub over a GMT. I don't travel often though.

[Deyn Man]

Originally Posted by dc_in_sf

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The GMT IIc has polished centre links on the bracelet (PCLs) the Sub doesn't. Polished links are more susceptible to showing scratches, so the GMT IIc may not be as appropriate for wearing while performing manual labour or other activities where your watch might hit something harder than your shirt cuff. PCLs do look fancier which may or may not be a good thing according to your taste and intended purpose.

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you'll probably scratch the GMT "more" than the sub..

[Kapture1]

I recommend going to an AD and trying both watches on. I think after you do that, you will have a clear choice. Good luck

[vjb.knife]

Originally Posted by sakuraba

Sub - triplock crown, thicker case, unidirectional bezel, ability to go down to 1000ft

Actually the GMTIIC (newest version) has a thicker case than the newest version of the submariner. And I doubt if there is any real difference in the depth capability either.

[rolexcd]

Originally Posted by Tools

Exactly... Just because they look alike, doesn't mean that they are alike..

So....If all you care about is the look, then it doesn't really matter...

The Sub has a thicker caseback (for deeper water resistance) and the bezel is a timer for the minute hand.... It also has a specialized bracelet and clasp to expand and fit over a wet-suit.

The GMT has an extra hand (completely different movement) that turns at exactly half the speed of the main hour hand and the bezel is graduated in 24 hr segments specifically to be used by that hand. The hands can be set to visibly show any timezone in the world without ever stopping the watch..

Larry, Do you think the prices of the two would be similar?

[Mr Soy sauce]

hi guys i was just wondering, what movements are in the sub andthe GMT.?????

[4 Ranges]

Why is my gmt coke's bezel unidirectional?

[jdbob]

sub is 3135 and GMT is 3186, i think. I'm sure I will be corrected if wrong