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johnww · 26 March 2010, 01:12 PM

Hi guys, I'm going to bite the bullet join all you elite people and get a Rolex. I was looking at the Submariner (black) 16610M series, with the inscription on the circular part of the inner dial.

The retail for a brand new one is: $6000-$6100

I found a used one in excellent condition for $4600, and he is willing to have it verified at a Rolex dealer for $30.

My question is what's a reasonable or the going rate for a new one? What do they go for, or the cheapest I can get a new one for? If it's like low $5000s, then I might as well pay for a new one.

Any help is appreicated!!

SLS · 26 March 2010, 01:17 PM

Welcome. There is a broad range of prices for the 16610, just take a look at the for sale section on this site. There are several Subs over there, some BNIB (Brand New In Box) from established sellers. IMO, $4600 is a fair price, just make sure it has all the goodies, if not a price adjustment is necessary.
Scott

MikeyTX · 26 March 2010, 01:21 PM

If you will check the for sale section of the forum, there are a number of 16610 subs for sale at the moment from a number of the regular resellers here. I would strongly suggest checking it out before you pay full list at an AD.

johnnybazookajoe · 26 March 2010, 01:22 PM

I would say either look within TRF for a trusted seller, or keep looking for a new one. I bought mine for 20% off, brand new, and had it shipped to my house to avoid tax.

chrislkb · 26 March 2010, 01:48 PM

Try some of the damn good sellers here on TRF!

johnww · 26 March 2010, 03:58 PM

thanks for all the fast replies guys!!

I was wondering if it anyone knows what's a good price for a new one. If it's not too far from $4600, then I would consider a new one.

Anyone have a ballpark FAIR price for a new one? I'm in the Los Angeles area, if that matters.

MikeyTX · 26 March 2010, 09:16 PM

If you're in Los Angles, you have a a rather large number of what we call gray market re sellers in your area. La Jolla Jewelery, Anaheim Jewelery, Ramarica Jewelery just to name a few. All are bricks and mortar stores you can walk into. I'd call them and ask what they are getting for the same model.

johnnybazookajoe · 27 March 2010, 10:27 AM

$4800 brand new from an AD. Some will pay more, some will pay less. Its what you're comfortable spending and where you are buying from (both AD and city/country).

gmaines · 27 March 2010, 11:53 AM

I have purchased from Anaheim Jewelery and got a GREAT deal.....

johnww · 27 March 2010, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnybazookajoe

$4800 brand new from an AD. Some will pay more, some will pay less. Its what you're comfortable spending and where you are buying from (both AD and city/country).

Really??? How did you get it for $4800 brand new and where? I was looking at DavidSW's V series brand new for $5500....

johnww · 27 March 2010, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmaines

I have purchased from Anaheim Jewelery and got a GREAT deal.....

Sorry for the dumb questions, but what's considered a good deal? Do they really go for $4800 brand new???

johnnybazookajoe · 27 March 2010, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnww

Really??? How did you get it for $4800 brand new and where? I was looking at DavidSW's V series brand new for $5500....

This was when the SS sub-date listed for $6000, got 20% off, and shipped it out of state to avoid tax.

ROGERB · 27 March 2010, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnww

Hi guys, I'm going to bite the bullet join all you elite people and get a Rolex. I was looking at the Submariner (black) 16610M series, with the inscription on the circular part of the inner dial.

The retail for a brand new one is: $6000-$6100

I found a used one in excellent condition for $4600, and he is willing to have it verified at a Rolex dealer for $30.

My question is what's a reasonable or the going rate for a new one? What do they go for, or the cheapest I can get a new one for? If it's like low $5000s, then I might as well pay for a new one.

Any help is appreicated!!

This picture is from a replica web page .....what is the point here!!

johnww · 27 March 2010, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROGERB

This picture is from a replica web page .....what is the point here!!

Really? I had no idea, I just googled the watch, and that was the best pic, I checked out the site and it listed for $5500, but looked shady..

I will call anaheim jewelry tomorrow and inquire.

johnww · 27 March 2010, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnybazookajoe

This was when the SS sub-date listed for $6000, got 20% off, and shipped it out of state to avoid tax.

Where did you buy it at Johnny?

johnww · 28 March 2010, 05:09 AM

Okay guys, I need some guidance and advice. I've narrowed it down to a trusted seller: DavidSW and a local guy herre. I need everyone's input on which deal I should go with, knowing granted there might be some bias with DavidSW as he's on TRF.

1. Brand new Submariner 16610V through DavidSW $5500

2. Used, but in mint condition, Submariner 16610M through local face to face transaction. $4600 (purchased 9 months ago)

Jaztime is the name of the guy locally here, he has watches on ebay under jaztimejewels.

http://myworld.ebay.com/jaztimejewels/

Willing to authenticate through Jostmar Jewellers at South Coast Plaza or Torneau @ South Coast Plaza.

He said that Jostmar would authenticate for $30, but I'm not sure if they're quialified to open the watch and make an assessment....

Torneau would give me a trade in value so, that's how they would assess the watch.

What do you guys think? it's a $900 difference for used or new.

Which option should I go with?

AuMDLST · 28 March 2010, 06:05 AM

Take the DavidSW Watch - I've got a couple already

BUY THE SELLER - I'm Sure you can get plenty of backup for DavidSW
How bout the other guy???

ersnyder · 28 March 2010, 06:05 AM

DavidSW is a good guy to work with! I can tell you that you'll get what he tells you when he tells you you'll get it.

Hooper · 28 March 2010, 06:08 AM

There are better deals, however your $6000-6100 is in the ball park ! Good Luck !!

Phil G. · 28 March 2010, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLS

Welcome. There is a broad range of prices for the 16610, just take a look at the for sale section on this site. There are several Subs over there, some BNIB (Brand New In Box) from established sellers. IMO, $4600 is a fair price, just make sure it has all the goodies, if not a price adjustment is necessary.
Scott

If you can afford to, buy a new one for a few hundred more and enjoy it. Deals are out there - as one poster noted, new ones at 20% off retail are available.

Perdu · 28 March 2010, 06:15 AM

If your sure of it's authenticity and you save with no sales tax then I say save the $900+.

Rscmaine · 28 March 2010, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perdu

If your sure of it's authenticity and you save with no sales tax then I say save the $900+.

+1

I couldn't agree more. If the watch in LA appears clean - no marks, dings signs or wear - and checks out authentic, then there is no difference between it and a new one except the $900.

Take the extra $900 and put it aside for a service in 5 years.

You end up with the same watch - and 10 years of cost free wear!

johnww · 28 March 2010, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rscmaine

+1

I couldn't agree more. If the watch in LA appears clean - no marks, dings signs or wear - and checks out authentic, then there is no difference between it and a new one except the $900.

Take the extra $900 and put it aside for a service in 5 years.

You end up with the same watch - and 10 years of cost free wear!

What about the issue with warranty? The new one with DavidSW will have my name on it for warranty, as opposed to the LA one which is 9 months old. Warranty shouldn't be a problem with a pre-owned watch right?

Has anyone delt with those 2 retailers before? Idk of they're good enough to verify auhenicity and to open the watch up.

ParisDakarBmw · 28 March 2010, 10:42 AM

Just be careful! There are good guys here on TRF, but some clowns lurk elsewhere. The guys here on TRF are good guys, and will treat you good. I'd stick to TRF myself!

johnnybazookajoe · 28 March 2010, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnww

Where did you buy it at Johnny?

Bought it here, just outside of Kansas City, MO. Its a store in a mall, people were real nice, but they only had 1 in stock when I was there 9 months ago, and have no idea what they have now or if they are discounting now that a new SS sub has been released.

http://hannoushjewelers.overlandpark...dealers.com/en

johnww · 28 March 2010, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmaines

I have purchased from Anaheim Jewelery and got a GREAT deal.....

gmaines, do you mind telling me what that great deal might be? I called them today and they quoted me $5700, and they couldn't even do $5500.

johnww · 29 March 2010, 10:53 AM

I just want to thank everyone for their input, replies and help with this 1st purchase. I bought the 16610 M and it was almost as if it was brand new, so I decided to save the $900 and went with www.jaztimejewelers.com.

Jaz was really cool and took me to Jostmar to authenticate at South Coast Plaza in Orange County, and then I suggested to bring it to Baron and Leeds Rolex for a trade in 2nd opinion. They offered me $3000!!!

...can you believe that.

All in all, it was a smooth transaction.

Here are some iphone pics:

johnnybazookajoe · 30 March 2010, 06:47 AM

Excellent buy, it will last you for years to come. Glad things worked out well for you.

Gerardus · 30 March 2010, 06:58 AM

Welcome at TRF.

Tunacan26 · 30 March 2010, 07:04 AM

Congrats. Sounds like a sweet ad for jaztimejewelers.com too. Just saying....

26 March 2010, 01:12 PM	#1
johnww Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: la Posts: 17	Help w/ price please 1st time BUYER: Rolex Submariner 16610m 2008/2009 Hi guys, I'm going to bite the bullet join all you elite people and get a Rolex. I was looking at the Submariner (black) 16610M series, with the inscription on the circular part of the inner dial. The retail for a brand new one is: $6000-$6100 I found a used one in excellent condition for $4600, and he is willing to have it verified at a Rolex dealer for $30. My question is what's a reasonable or the going rate for a new one? What do they go for, or the cheapest I can get a new one for? If it's like low $5000s, then I might as well pay for a new one. Any help is appreicated!!

26 March 2010, 01:17 PM	#2
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,401	Welcome. There is a broad range of prices for the 16610, just take a look at the for sale section on this site. There are several Subs over there, some BNIB (Brand New In Box) from established sellers. IMO, $4600 is a fair price, just make sure it has all the goodies, if not a price adjustment is necessary. Scott __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

26 March 2010, 01:21 PM	#3
MikeyTX "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: Skunk Hollow, TX Watch: Rolex 116613LN Sub Posts: 2,198	If you will check the for sale section of the forum, there are a number of 16610 subs for sale at the moment from a number of the regular resellers here. I would strongly suggest checking it out before you pay full list at an AD. __________________ JJ ........... Still missing you bro. May you enjoy the eternal peace the almighty has blessed you with.

26 March 2010, 01:22 PM	#4
johnnybazookajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Belvidere, IL Watch: SS Sub Posts: 242	I would say either look within TRF for a trusted seller, or keep looking for a new one. I bought mine for 20% off, brand new, and had it shipped to my house to avoid tax. __________________ Sub-Date 16610 "M"

26 March 2010, 01:48 PM	#5
chrislkb "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Christopher Location: Singapore Watch: out kiddo! Posts: 1,033	Try some of the damn good sellers here on TRF! __________________ Viva La Rolex

26 March 2010, 03:58 PM	#6
johnww Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: la Posts: 17	thanks for all the fast replies guys!! I was wondering if it anyone knows what's a good price for a new one. If it's not too far from $4600, then I would consider a new one. Anyone have a ballpark FAIR price for a new one? I'm in the Los Angeles area, if that matters.

26 March 2010, 09:16 PM	#7
MikeyTX "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: Skunk Hollow, TX Watch: Rolex 116613LN Sub Posts: 2,198	If you're in Los Angles, you have a a rather large number of what we call gray market re sellers in your area. La Jolla Jewelery, Anaheim Jewelery, Ramarica Jewelery just to name a few. All are bricks and mortar stores you can walk into. I'd call them and ask what they are getting for the same model. __________________ JJ ........... Still missing you bro. May you enjoy the eternal peace the almighty has blessed you with.

27 March 2010, 10:27 AM	#8
johnnybazookajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Belvidere, IL Watch: SS Sub Posts: 242	$4800 brand new from an AD. Some will pay more, some will pay less. Its what you're comfortable spending and where you are buying from (both AD and city/country). __________________ Sub-Date 16610 "M"

27 March 2010, 11:53 AM	#9
gmaines Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Riverside, CA Watch: Submariner&SDDS Posts: 306	I have purchased from Anaheim Jewelery and got a GREAT deal.....

28 March 2010, 05:09 AM	#16
johnww Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: la Posts: 17	Okay guys, I need some guidance and advice. I've narrowed it down to a trusted seller: DavidSW and a local guy herre. I need everyone's input on which deal I should go with, knowing granted there might be some bias with DavidSW as he's on TRF. 1. Brand new Submariner 16610V through DavidSW $5500 2. Used, but in mint condition, Submariner 16610M through local face to face transaction. $4600 (purchased 9 months ago) Jaztime is the name of the guy locally here, he has watches on ebay under jaztimejewels. http://myworld.ebay.com/jaztimejewels/ Willing to authenticate through Jostmar Jewellers at South Coast Plaza or Torneau @ South Coast Plaza. He said that Jostmar would authenticate for $30, but I'm not sure if they're quialified to open the watch and make an assessment.... Torneau would give me a trade in value so, that's how they would assess the watch. What do you guys think? it's a $900 difference for used or new. Which option should I go with?

28 March 2010, 06:05 AM	#17
AuMDLST "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Texas Watch: All of them Posts: 162	DavidSW Watch Take the DavidSW Watch - I've got a couple already BUY THE SELLER - I'm Sure you can get plenty of backup for DavidSW How bout the other guy???

28 March 2010, 06:05 AM	#18
ersnyder 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Eric Location: Long Beach CA USA Watch: Rolex Explorer II Posts: 4,102	DavidSW is a good guy to work with! I can tell you that you'll get what he tells you when he tells you you'll get it.

28 March 2010, 06:08 AM	#19
Hooper "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Tony Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: 16610 Posts: 3,290	There are better deals, however your $6000-6100 is in the ball park ! Good Luck !!

28 March 2010, 06:15 AM	#21
Perdu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Gary Location: GMT-6 Watch: GMT Posts: 3,350	If your sure of it's authenticity and you save with no sales tax then I say save the $900+. __________________ Omega Seamaster 300M GMT Noire Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra 8500 Benson 1937 Sterling Silver Hunter

28 March 2010, 10:42 AM	#24
ParisDakarBmw Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Paul Location: New Haven, CT Watch: 116610 Sub-C Posts: 6,552	Just be careful! There are good guys here on TRF, but some clowns lurk elsewhere. The guys here on TRF are good guys, and will treat you good. I'd stick to TRF myself!

29 March 2010, 10:53 AM	#27
johnww Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: la Posts: 17	I just want to thank everyone for their input, replies and help with this 1st purchase. I bought the 16610 M and it was almost as if it was brand new, so I decided to save the $900 and went with www.jaztimejewelers.com. Jaz was really cool and took me to Jostmar to authenticate at South Coast Plaza in Orange County, and then I suggested to bring it to Baron and Leeds Rolex for a trade in 2nd opinion. They offered me $3000!!!...can you believe that. All in all, it was a smooth transaction. Here are some iphone pics: Attached Images

30 March 2010, 06:47 AM	#28
johnnybazookajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Belvidere, IL Watch: SS Sub Posts: 242	Excellent buy, it will last you for years to come. Glad things worked out well for you. __________________ Sub-Date 16610 "M"

30 March 2010, 06:58 AM	#29
Gerardus "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Gerardus Location: often in the air Watch: ♕ Posts: 12,142	Welcome at TRF. __________________ ♕126610 ♕126333 ♕116300

30 March 2010, 07:04 AM	#30
Tunacan26 Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Chuck Location: Florida Watch: Hulk, DJ, Bluesy Posts: 1,890	Congrats. Sounds like a sweet ad for jaztimejewelers.com too. Just saying....

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