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andrew79 · 5 May 2010, 04:27 PM

Hi all, it's ajust about a month ago I joined this forum, mainly to know and learn about Rolex. I like swiss watches for a long time, but just recently love Rolex and bought 2 (GMT iic and sub LV) in April for myself.

Having read some of the threads in the Panerai section, I saw a lot of people here flipped their Rolex to PAM. There must be something special about this watch/brand that make you guys did that for sure.

Today, I read some threads and found 104 or 111 or 177 or 312 is actually impressive... however, you Paneristi, could you open my mind a little bit more about PAMs ?

Thanks ... i hope Panerai bug don't bite me yet... just had 2 Rolexes last month and definitely need to save some..... but no doubt this forum is creating an addiction to watches.....

Psmith · 5 May 2010, 05:31 PM

Welcome to the 'darkside' Andrew. You may be interested to know that Rolex and Panerai have some shared history. When Panerai first started, Rolex supplied some cases and movements. Many collectors see the two brands as being natural partners in a collection.

Sounds like the Panerai bug may already be nibbling... and then of course there is the strap addiction to look forward to...

Cheers

andrew79 · 5 May 2010, 05:54 PM

LOL.... hope the bug dont bite me soon.... I'll be crazy to spend more money on watches ... :) but it's interesting to know there's a lot of people into PAM now and leaving rolex behind. Yes, I 've heard rolex made the movement around 1930 ish for PAM.

Trurolexer · 5 May 2010, 09:54 PM

Hello Andrew!!! Are you Indonesian? Apa kabar?
Kalo kamu tinggal di Jakarta, hari Minggu jam 2 siang ada mini GTG bagi penggemar Panerai. Mau ikutan join?

andrew79 · 6 May 2010, 12:09 AM

Hi TR... just send you a message... iya gua orang indo juga.... seems like an interesting event .... will check my schedule.... thanks for letting me know :)

dalip · 6 May 2010, 12:29 AM

Andrew....I think that a PAM or two in your collection compliments rolex very well..if you like the look of them then you're already getting the cash out....it's just a matter of which model..I have the 104. Love it. I would have a good look at the 312 personally....then there's the 111 ..and...list is endless! You will never regret it.. I have bought and flipped a few rolex...for other rolex...but the PAM is a keeper for sure.

andrew79 · 6 May 2010, 12:31 AM

we will see what happens next !!! LOL

Psmith · 6 May 2010, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew79

we will see what happens next !!! LOL

TR knows all about that

Cheers

bungle · 6 May 2010, 12:41 AM

For me, there was always nothing but Rolex. But the moment I saw my first Panerai, I was completely smitten. There are so many beautiful watches out there from many different makers, but, Panerai really, really grabs me.

dalip · 6 May 2010, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew79

we will see what happens next !!! LOL

Indeed we will

mfer · 6 May 2010, 01:18 AM

IMHO everyone needs at least on PAM and one Rolex.

ocwatching · 6 May 2010, 02:59 AM

I with Mik...if the simple clean dial interest you...time to get that $$ together for a PAM

Trurolexer · 6 May 2010, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psmith

TR knows all about that

Cheers

Very true...

PhilM · 6 May 2010, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfer

IMHO everyone needs at least on PAM and one Rolex.

That's what I'm starting to think too

RRGHOST1 · 6 May 2010, 03:25 AM

I think the PAM watches are possibly very nice, its just i cant see the appeal of them. On saying that, the PAM 00297 GMT is interesting.

B. Doggy · 6 May 2010, 04:23 AM

You'll own a PAM soon enough. Just post some pics when you get it!!!

mike · 6 May 2010, 04:46 AM

I tend to view Rolex and Panerai as distant cousins. Both brands in a large sense have stayed true to there DNA (as least as far as sports models go--well, perhaps Panerai has held the line a bit better

)

Both are distinctive in style and look, and both have proven to be rock solid tough as nails watches with a military heritage.

I've never been one to baby my watches (likewise I don't abuse them either) and have found Panerai to be in many ways as competent as Rolex when the surroundings are less than ideal. Couple that with a big easy to read dial with great luminosity and you have a watch fully capable to be at home in any situtation.

A point worth mentioning as well is that the raw numbers of Panerai don't add up to a drop in the bucket of the Rolex juggernaught...something that appeals to many.

Some may argue the whole in-house movement thing (something Panerai is taking care of), but again my experience has been Pams choice of movements reflects their idea of a strong solid watch built for the abnormal.

My Pams are fully as accurate as my Rolex and maintain that accuracy and consistency as well as any Rolex I own (ok my RED 1680 is just stupid accurate thanks to my watchmaker.

)

Some argue the size, but in all honesty you gotta try it to believe it.

dalip · 6 May 2010, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfer

IMHO everyone needs at least on PAM and one Rolex.

Wholeheartedly agree also

andrew79 · 6 May 2010, 09:09 AM

nice positive feedback... great.... :) thanks all.... seems like everything can co exist smoothly without bashing the other one....

H2F · 6 May 2010, 09:56 AM

Not to mention, the FUN of changing straps!!

5 May 2010, 04:27 PM	#1
andrew79 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Andrew Location: Indonesia Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,277	Enlighten me to Panerai Hi all, it's ajust about a month ago I joined this forum, mainly to know and learn about Rolex. I like swiss watches for a long time, but just recently love Rolex and bought 2 (GMT iic and sub LV) in April for myself. Having read some of the threads in the Panerai section, I saw a lot of people here flipped their Rolex to PAM. There must be something special about this watch/brand that make you guys did that for sure. Today, I read some threads and found 104 or 111 or 177 or 312 is actually impressive... however, you Paneristi, could you open my mind a little bit more about PAMs ? Thanks ... i hope Panerai bug don't bite me yet... just had 2 Rolexes last month and definitely need to save some..... but no doubt this forum is creating an addiction to watches..... __________________ Baume & Mercier Riviera Rolex GMT II c, DJ 116234, Sub 16610, EXP 2 16570 Panerai 111 , 232

5 May 2010, 05:31 PM	#2
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,855	Welcome to the 'darkside' Andrew. You may be interested to know that Rolex and Panerai have some shared history. When Panerai first started, Rolex supplied some cases and movements. Many collectors see the two brands as being natural partners in a collection. Sounds like the Panerai bug may already be nibbling... and then of course there is the strap addiction to look forward to... Cheers __________________

5 May 2010, 05:54 PM	#3
andrew79 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Andrew Location: Indonesia Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,277	LOL.... hope the bug dont bite me soon.... I'll be crazy to spend more money on watches ... :) but it's interesting to know there's a lot of people into PAM now and leaving rolex behind. Yes, I 've heard rolex made the movement around 1930 ish for PAM. __________________ Baume & Mercier Riviera Rolex GMT II c, DJ 116234, Sub 16610, EXP 2 16570 Panerai 111 , 232

6 May 2010, 12:09 AM	#5
andrew79 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Andrew Location: Indonesia Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,277	Hi TR... just send you a message... iya gua orang indo juga.... seems like an interesting event .... will check my schedule.... thanks for letting me know :) __________________ Baume & Mercier Riviera Rolex GMT II c, DJ 116234, Sub 16610, EXP 2 16570 Panerai 111 , 232

6 May 2010, 12:29 AM	#6
dalip "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Dalip Location: Mumbai and Perth Watch: Rolex PAM Omega Posts: 18,656	Andrew....I think that a PAM or two in your collection compliments rolex very well..if you like the look of them then you're already getting the cash out....it's just a matter of which model..I have the 104. Love it. I would have a good look at the 312 personally....then there's the 111 ..and...list is endless! You will never regret it.. I have bought and flipped a few rolex...for other rolex...but the PAM is a keeper for sure. __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------ *"The liar's punishment is not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else." George Bernard Shaw*

5 May 2010, 09:54 PM	#4
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	Hello Andrew!!! Are you Indonesian? Apa kabar? Kalo kamu tinggal di Jakarta, hari Minggu jam 2 siang ada mini GTG bagi penggemar Panerai. Mau ikutan join?

6 May 2010, 12:31 AM	#7
andrew79 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Andrew Location: Indonesia Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,277	we will see what happens next !!! LOL __________________ Baume & Mercier Riviera Rolex GMT II c, DJ 116234, Sub 16610, EXP 2 16570 Panerai 111 , 232

6 May 2010, 12:41 AM	#9
bungle "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Chris Location: North Wales, UK Posts: 214	For me, there was always nothing but Rolex. But the moment I saw my first Panerai, I was completely smitten. There are so many beautiful watches out there from many different makers, but, Panerai really, really grabs me.

6 May 2010, 01:18 AM	#11
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	IMHO everyone needs at least on PAM and one Rolex. __________________ member#3242

6 May 2010, 02:59 AM	#12
ocwatching "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Phil Location: CA Posts: 5,374	I with Mik...if the simple clean dial interest you...time to get that $$ together for a PAM __________________ too much into watches...

6 May 2010, 03:25 AM	#15
RRGHOST1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: luke standing Location: england Watch: Rolex TT SubC Blue Posts: 4,019	I think the PAM watches are possibly very nice, its just i cant see the appeal of them. On saying that, the PAM 00297 GMT is interesting.

6 May 2010, 04:23 AM	#16
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	You'll own a PAM soon enough. Just post some pics when you get it!!! __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

6 May 2010, 04:46 AM	#17
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,682	I tend to view Rolex and Panerai as distant cousins. Both brands in a large sense have stayed true to there DNA (as least as far as sports models go--well, perhaps Panerai has held the line a bit better) Both are distinctive in style and look, and both have proven to be rock solid tough as nails watches with a military heritage. I've never been one to baby my watches (likewise I don't abuse them either) and have found Panerai to be in many ways as competent as Rolex when the surroundings are less than ideal. Couple that with a big easy to read dial with great luminosity and you have a watch fully capable to be at home in any situtation. A point worth mentioning as well is that the raw numbers of Panerai don't add up to a drop in the bucket of the Rolex juggernaught...something that appeals to many. Some may argue the whole in-house movement thing (something Panerai is taking care of), but again my experience has been Pams choice of movements reflects their idea of a strong solid watch built for the abnormal. My Pams are fully as accurate as my Rolex and maintain that accuracy and consistency as well as any Rolex I own (ok my RED 1680 is just stupid accurate thanks to my watchmaker.) Some argue the size, but in all honesty you gotta try it to believe it.

6 May 2010, 09:09 AM	#19
andrew79 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Andrew Location: Indonesia Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,277	nice positive feedback... great.... :) thanks all.... seems like everything can co exist smoothly without bashing the other one.... __________________ Baume & Mercier Riviera Rolex GMT II c, DJ 116234, Sub 16610, EXP 2 16570 Panerai 111 , 232

6 May 2010, 09:56 AM	#20
H2F "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Horace Location: RPV, CA & JAKARTA Watch: Pam & Lings Posts: 89	Not to mention, the FUN of changing straps!!

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