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Jwiley21 · 27 July 2010, 05:05 AM

Good Afternoon. I am obviously new to the forum and also new to Vintage watches. I recently had a family friend who was an old Navy Seal, gift to me a Rolex. The watch was recently serviced and was in remarkable condition. Rather than pay a huge fee for the apprasial I am wondering if anyone can help me explain what I have. On the watch are the numbers 7928 on one side of the watch and on the other 449XXX. I am not showing the last 3 numbers because I believe those are the serial numbers. Can someone please shed some light on the watch and maybe the value? Any help would be appreciated.

Dan Pierce · 27 July 2010, 05:21 AM

Your best bet is to visit Cleves and Lonnemann Jewelers in Bellevue, Ky [just across the river] and ask for Charlie or Mike. They're on vacation at the moment but should be back in a week. Charlie is a Rolex trained tech and can shed some light on your classic Sub. That way you have something is writing and Charlie will no charge much.
Is there an engraving on the case back? Military issue Subs command good $$.
Best of luck,
dP

Jwiley21 · 27 July 2010, 05:37 AM

Thanks for the suggestion Dan. No there is nothing engraved on the back case.

Dan Pierce · 27 July 2010, 05:44 AM

I'm no expert of Tudor Subs of this era but do you know if the person who owned it was issued this watch while in the military? Or did they purchase it themselves while in the service?
dP

Jwiley21 · 27 July 2010, 05:54 AM

I believe it was issued to him. He passed away and his wife has been gone for several years so I am in the dark on the history.

Dan Pierce · 27 July 2010, 05:57 AM

Many military Subs have engravings on the back [other than the Rolex engraving] although I know of one guy who was issued a Tudor Sub in the 70's while in the US Navy but it doesn't have any marks either.

Hope more experts chime in, we'll all learn more.

BTW, welcome to TRF.

dP

nowzen · 27 July 2010, 02:13 PM

Apparently, the US Navy issued Tudor Prince Subs in 64 to 66 and that the later issue (early 70's to 1984) were the same as the Marine Nationale Sub.

according to this site:
http://www.chronoarchive.com/watch/v...riner_7928_pcg
a 409XXX+ serial would date it from 1963+.

Also, Tudor stopped using the rose in the late 60's
This would suggest that your serial number is probably consistent with the range for the first US Navy issue.

Good luck in your search.

27 July 2010, 05:21 AM	#2
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,171	Your best bet is to visit Cleves and Lonnemann Jewelers in Bellevue, Ky [just across the river] and ask for Charlie or Mike. They're on vacation at the moment but should be back in a week. Charlie is a Rolex trained tech and can shed some light on your classic Sub. That way you have something is writing and Charlie will no charge much. Is there an engraving on the case back? Military issue Subs command good $$. Best of luck, dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

27 July 2010, 05:44 AM	#4
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,171	I'm no expert of Tudor Subs of this era but do you know if the person who owned it was issued this watch while in the military? Or did they purchase it themselves while in the service? dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

27 July 2010, 05:57 AM	#6
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,171	Many military Subs have engravings on the back [other than the Rolex engraving] although I know of one guy who was issued a Tudor Sub in the 70's while in the US Navy but it doesn't have any marks either. Hope more experts chime in, we'll all learn more. BTW, welcome to TRF. dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

27 July 2010, 05:54 AM	#5
Jwiley21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3	I believe it was issued to him. He passed away and his wife has been gone for several years so I am in the dark on the history.

27 July 2010, 02:13 PM	#7
nowzen "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 741	Apparently, the US Navy issued Tudor Prince Subs in 64 to 66 and that the later issue (early 70's to 1984) were the same as the Marine Nationale Sub. according to this site: http://www.chronoarchive.com/watch/v...riner_7928_pcg a 409XXX+ serial would date it from 1963+. Also, Tudor stopped using the rose in the late 60's This would suggest that your serial number is probably consistent with the range for the first US Navy issue. Good luck in your search.

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