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jordanxi · 5 September 2010, 01:42 AM

Hi guys,

I'm a novice so I wanted to seek advice on this rolex gmt II. Is the watch authentic or not? I know the pictures are not great but its what the person gave me. He has the original box and papers, even a paper from a third party appraisal. However, a few things throw me off such as the scratch on the reference numbers and bracelet. I thought there was suppose to be writing on the bracelet, also are the scratches on the lug trying to hide something? Please help if you have any information.

Thanks

mjm800 · 5 September 2010, 01:45 AM

Ask the seller for a straight shot of the entire face we need to see the cyclops magnification.

tudorman8276 · 5 September 2010, 04:49 AM

...and the laser etching!

...case looks like it was made today.

Pep04 · 5 September 2010, 04:59 AM

THat is the weirdest looking SEL. Did the Y come with SEL? And why are there holes in the case when there is a SEL bracelet?

Something doesn't seem right with the case writing.

I would stay clear of that one. Try PMing one of the great sellers here if your interested in a watch and don't risk your hard earned mula.

And hello and welcome, by the way.

mjm800 · 5 September 2010, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pep04

THat is the weirdest looking SEL. Did the Y come with SEL? And why are there holes in the case when there is a SEL bracelet?

Something doesn't seem right with the case writing.

I noticed that too. It has SEL but it has groves like it was made for a watch without lug holes.

Pep04 · 5 September 2010, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mjm800

I noticed that too. It has SEL but it has groves like it was made for a watch without lug holes.

I'm gonna vote FAKE

TimeToGo · 5 September 2010, 06:13 AM

Lug holes were phased around the end of the Y-serial.

By the way love that "typed" Y on the serial number!

Stan, nailed it!

Michael M. · 5 September 2010, 06:31 AM

Laser etching serial # and ref#

jordanxi · 5 September 2010, 08:44 AM

Thanks for all the help guys, does that mean this appraisal letter is fake also? Or maybe he just switched the watch after it was done.

I was sent more photos,

onkyo · 5 September 2010, 08:49 AM

Not authentic.

TimeToGo · 5 September 2010, 09:56 AM

A lot of appraisers are not experts in identifying counterfeits. They will take down the available serial/model numbers and appraise based on the replacement value of a new one.

If you purchased this watch at a jewelry store, you may want to take it in for a refund.

Sorry, you have to find out this way.

mjm800 · 5 September 2010, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordanxi

Thanks for all the help guys, does that mean this appraisal letter is fake also? Or maybe he just switched the watch after it was done.

Could be a fake or they could be just stupid. I went to the Jewel Scene website, they do not even sell watches so it is highly doubtful they have anyone on staff who is qualified to work on let alone verify the authenticity of a Rolex. Moreover, the appraisal does not state anywhere on the form that it is verifying authenticity.

http://www.jewelscene.com/

There are a lot of very knowledgeable people on this board who make it their business to spot fakes, they have spoken, they have said it's a fake. Back out of the deal before you're sorry.

mcjp6 · 5 September 2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mjm800

it's a fake. Back out of the deal

as quick as you can

springer · 5 September 2010, 01:19 PM

Laser etched lettering on the case. 100% fake, along with the appraisal.

5 September 2010, 01:42 AM	#1
jordanxi "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: nyc Posts: 7	Authentic Check on a Rolex Gmt II please help Hi guys, I'm a novice so I wanted to seek advice on this rolex gmt II. Is the watch authentic or not? I know the pictures are not great but its what the person gave me. He has the original box and papers, even a paper from a third party appraisal. However, a few things throw me off such as the scratch on the reference numbers and bracelet. I thought there was suppose to be writing on the bracelet, also are the scratches on the lug trying to hide something? Please help if you have any information. Thanks

5 September 2010, 01:45 AM	#2
mjm800 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,950	Ask the seller for a straight shot of the entire face we need to see the cyclops magnification. __________________

5 September 2010, 04:49 AM	#3
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...100% COUNTERFEIT...look at the long "E's"... ...and the laser etching! ...case looks like it was made today.

5 September 2010, 04:59 AM	#4
Pep04 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Pep Location: Miami Watch: GMTIIc, Pam320 Posts: 2,773	THat is the weirdest looking SEL. Did the Y come with SEL? And why are there holes in the case when there is a SEL bracelet? Something doesn't seem right with the case writing. I would stay clear of that one. Try PMing one of the great sellers here if your interested in a watch and don't risk your hard earned mula. And hello and welcome, by the way. __________________ "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin Prick #8

5 September 2010, 01:19 PM	#14
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,309	Laser etched lettering on the case. 100% fake, along with the appraisal. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

5 September 2010, 06:13 AM	#7
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,716	Lug holes were phased around the end of the Y-serial. By the way love that "typed" Y on the serial number! Stan, nailed it!

5 September 2010, 06:31 AM	#8
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	Laser etching serial # and ref#

5 September 2010, 08:44 AM	#9
jordanxi "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: nyc Posts: 7	Thanks for all the help guys, does that mean this appraisal letter is fake also? Or maybe he just switched the watch after it was done. I was sent more photos,

5 September 2010, 08:49 AM	#10
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	Not authentic.

5 September 2010, 09:56 AM	#11
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,716	A lot of appraisers are not experts in identifying counterfeits. They will take down the available serial/model numbers and appraise based on the replacement value of a new one. If you purchased this watch at a jewelry store, you may want to take it in for a refund. Sorry, you have to find out this way.

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